Will this Companion be similar to the 'Second Darkness Player's Guide' Companion, where it is free for subscribers and shipped with the first installment of the AP?

Thanks for any info.

Cheers.

I think these are replacing the Player's Guides now, but don't quote me on that one.

I know that the player's guides will still be free for subscribers.

RM

The Companions are replacing the free player's guides.

My understanding is that the first one (Included with the first Second Darkness adventure) is free on the basis that 'the first hit is free'. I believe that a separate Companion subscription or purchase will be necessary to obtain the player's guide for subsequent APs.

Um, not to burst people's bubbles, but if you checked your bills when Paizo sent the announcement prior to sending the first companion and the first Second Darkness module, you will see you were charged for the first companion. If I remember correctly, the total shipment was around $30 or so (the last of the Crimson Tide, first of the Second Darkness, and the first companion.)

You will also note that the Companions are also part of your Adventure Path subscription, so when the Elves of Golaron comes out with the third adventure path installment, you'll be charged the additional $9.99 as well as the $13.99 for the third path adventure.

Um, not to burst people's bubbles, but if you checked your bills when Paizo sent the announcement prior to sending the first companion and the first Second Darkness module, you will see you were charged for the first companion. If I remember correctly, the total shipment was around $30 or so (the last of the Crimson Tide, first of the Second Darkness, and the first companion.)

You will also note that the Companions are also part of your Adventure Path subscription, so when the Elves of Golaron comes out with the third adventure path installment, you'll be charged the additional $9.99 as well as the $13.99 for the third path adventure.

People with AP subscriptions for Pf #13 got the first companion free, if you were charged you should contact customer service because you should not have been.

The Companions have their own subscription, they are not part of the AP subscription.

Scott Galliand wrote:

Um, not to burst people's bubbles, but if you checked your bills when Paizo sent the announcement prior to sending the first companion and the first Second Darkness module, you will see you were charged for the first companion. If I remember correctly, the total shipment was around $30 or so (the last of the Crimson Tide, first of the Second Darkness, and the first companion.)

You will also note that the Companions are also part of your Adventure Path subscription, so when the Elves of Golaron comes out with the third adventure path installment, you'll be charged the additional $9.99 as well as the $13.99 for the third path adventure.

Not to burst your bubble, but nothing you said here is true.

People with AP subscriptions for Pf #13 got the first companion free, if you were charged you should contact customer service because you should not have been.

The Companions have their own subscription, they are not part of the AP subscription.

And the Elves of Elves of Golarion are part of the Companion subscription, not the AP subscription. If you don't have the Companion subscription or you don't order Elves of Golarion seperatly, you will not get it if you only have the AP subscription. But if you do Order the Elves of Golarion or have the Companion subscription you will be charged $9.99 or $8.49 if you have the AP subscription because of the discount you get from having the AP subscription.

Scott Galliand wrote:

Um, not to burst people's bubbles, but if you checked your bills when Paizo sent the announcement prior to sending the first companion and the first Second Darkness module, you will see you were charged for the first companion. If I remember correctly, the total shipment was around $30 or so (the last of the Crimson Tide, first of the Second Darkness, and the first companion.)

You will also note that the Companions are also part of your Adventure Path subscription, so when the Elves of Golaron comes out with the third adventure path installment, you'll be charged the additional $9.99 as well as the $13.99 for the third path adventure.

Not to burst your bubble, but nothing you said here is true.

People with AP subscriptions for Pf #13 got the first companion free, if you were charged you should contact customer service because you should not have been.

The Companions have their own subscription, they are not part of the AP subscription.

Ungoded is correct.

I also checked your order, and verified that you weren't charged for Pathfinder Companion: Second Darkness. ($13.99 each for 2 Pathfinders + $0 for the Companion + $5.62 shipping = $33.60.)

I noticed that the price of Companions seems to be going up to $10.99. Why is that? Will there be a page count increase?

I noticed that the price of Companions seems to be going up to $10.99. Why is that? Will there be a page count increase?

Klar vs. Goblin wrote:

I noticed that the price of Companions seems to be going up to $10.99. Why is that? Will there be a page count increase?

Probably because everything is going up in price, and Paizo needs to raise their prices to make up for the increased costs. The Modules and Chronicles are also getting a 1 or 2 dollar price bump starting in January, although the Adventure Path adventures are staying the same.

To third this, just checked my order history: i was not charged for the second darkness companion.

Yep. Our printer raised their prices, presumably due to the weak dollar, increased shipping costs... all the usual reasons for price increases these days. We held off passing on the increase for a while, but it doesn't look like it's going back down anytime soon.

Vic Wertz wrote:

Yep. Our printer raised their prices, presumably due to the weak dollar, increased shipping costs... all the usual reasons for price increases these days. We held off passing on the increase for a while, but it doesn't look like it's going back down anytime soon.

Weak dollar? Not where I live, so I'm taking a double hit. Still, Pathfinder is worth it.

Will these (i.e. the Pathfinder Companions) be made regularly available on Amazon? (Does Diamond distribute these books?)

Will these (i.e. the Pathfinder Companions) be made regularly available on Amazon? (Does Diamond distribute these books?)

Strange... I'm still seeing the mock-up cover in today's blog. Wesleys talking about Vince Dutrait-goodness and I'm still seeing the piece from CotCT #4. I guess something went wrong there... :-)

I don't know if the cover shown will be the final one, but i love the monochromatic treatment.

This one isn't done by Vince Dutrait and has been there since the AP's announcement. Maybe Wes was a little hung-over from his birthday when he posted this...:-)

Yeah, that's not the final cover up right now... we'll get the one Wes's talking about up there ASAP.

Yeah, that's not the final cover up right now... we'll get the one Wes's talking about up there ASAP.

Now the final cover is up on the blog...and that's a cover.

I'm not sure which cover I like better

You're not sure...? 0o
I love it! Vince Dutrait is just awesome and the more I see of his art, the more I want him to do the covers for a future AP! He's currently my favorite Paizo-Artist (which means a lot, as there's serious competition in Prescott, Reynolds, Widermann and Hou...).

Any word yet on whether Pathfinder AP subscribers will get a free copy (like with Second Darkness)?

-Skeld

Any word yet on whether Pathfinder AP subscribers will get a free copy (like with Second Darkness)?

-Skeld

Hint, hint.

I don't think they will be doing that this time around; in fact they said this would not be the case for this AP. Maybe if we all ask nicely they'll shoot us a free pdf of the player's guide with the AP subscription.

Hint, hint.

I thought you were a superscriber. You made a post about it and everything.

I understand not wanting to buy things you want to play in but what I will say is these mdules will not stay in print forever. If it is not a money issues I say become a superscriber today. We have already learned that the Pathfinder APs go out of print pretty quick. I would bet that the early modules will start going out of print soon. I do not want to risk it personally. Last year I spent a lot of money on ebay buying early TSR modules that I did not want to miss out on. I don't want to buy my Paizo modules that way in a few years. I will hold them until it is time to run them.

Funny I picked up a lot of AD&D 2nd ed stuff over the holiday as well, a lot of which I already have hard copies of but are a full continent away from me.

I've updated the cover image and description to match the finished product.

People with AP subscriptions for Pf #13 got the first companion free, if you were charged you should contact customer service because you should not have been.

The Companions have their own subscription, they are not part of the AP subscription.

My subscription started at #15...does this mean I'll get Legacy of Fire companion free ?

This product looks awesome!

The design is gorgeous, you've really outdone yourself Sara! Way to frickin' go!

Yep, I am more excited to finally read LoF than I have been with the very first PFAP!

I just downloaded the free PDF of this (free because I previously bought something I guess) and I noticed that it mentioned traits, and referred to another free PDF...

"Character traits were officially introduced in the Second Darkness Player’s Guide, and now you can download the character traits rules as a free PDF, available online at paizo.com."

Can anyone point me to teh PDF this is referring to?

Cheers!

I just downloaded the free PDF of this (free because I previously bought something I guess) and I noticed that it mentioned traits, and referred to another free PDF...

"Character traits were officially introduced in the Second Darkness Player’s Guide, and now you can download the character traits rules as a free PDF, available online at paizo.com."

Can anyone point me to teh PDF this is referring to?

Cheers!

Edit: Yep. It's up sometime tomorrow they say...

I just downloaded the free PDF of this (free because I previously bought something I guess) and I noticed that it mentioned traits, and referred to another free PDF...

"Character traits were officially introduced in the Second Darkness Player’s Guide, and now you can download the character traits rules as a free PDF, available online at paizo.com."

Can anyone point me to teh PDF this is referring to?

Cheers!

Just to be sure -- this book will contain more information than can be found in the free Legacy of Fire PDF most of us have gotten?

Just to be sure -- this book will contain more information than can be found in the free Legacy of Fire PDF most of us have gotten?

Eric Hinkle wrote:

Just to be sure -- this book will contain more information than can be found in the free Legacy of Fire PDF most of us have gotten?

The PDF is 32 pages, so is the print product... you just get to browse/read it for free a month before it ships.

Ummm ... FYI, there seems to be an error in the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide. "pazio.com/traits" does not seem to exist for the discussion of the Achievement Feats... Just sayin'...

Ummm ... FYI, there seems to be an error in the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide. "pazio.com/traits" does not seem to exist for the discussion of the Achievement Feats... Just sayin'...

(Notice, please, that I do not have an "editorial assistance" credit on this product.)

Turin the Mad wrote:

Ummm ... FYI, there seems to be an error in the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide. "pazio.com/traits" does not seem to exist for the discussion of the Achievement Feats... Just sayin'...

Sigh. Try it with "paizo" instead of "pazio."

(Notice, please, that I do not have an "editorial assistance" credit on this product.)

Vic Wertz wrote:

Turin the Mad wrote:

Ummm ... FYI, there seems to be an error in the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide. "pazio.com/traits" does not seem to exist for the discussion of the Achievement Feats... Just sayin'...

Sigh. Try it with "paizo" instead of "pazio."

(Notice, please, that I do not have an "editorial assistance" credit on this product.)

It goes directly to downloading the PDF for the traits - rather not what the thing was listed for - discussing the traits! :)

Turin the Mad wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

Turin the Mad wrote:

Ummm ... FYI, there seems to be an error in the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide. "pazio.com/traits" does not seem to exist for the discussion of the Achievement Feats... Just sayin'...

Sigh. Try it with "paizo" instead of "pazio."

(Notice, please, that I do not have an "editorial assistance" credit on this product.)

It goes directly to downloading the PDF for the traits - rather not what the thing was listed for - discussing the traits! :)

D'oh! The box on page *7* is supposed to say download at paizo.com/traits, and the box on page 29 is just supposed to say to discuss them at paizo.com.

I just took my first look at the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide, and am looking forward to reading and digesting the whole 32 pages. Excellent job on this! Really outstanding stuff.

:)

I hope this one is going to be like the Second Darkness companion. In Second Darkness it was more of a gazeteer for Riddleport. I didnt need the AP to enjoy and use the Companion.

I hope this one is going to be like the Second Darkness companion. In Second Darkness it was more of a gazeteer for Riddleport. I didnt need the AP to enjoy and use the Companion.

Oh, I also like the prevalence of a certain addictive drug--perhaps part of the namesake of the region? Also interesting is the quirk that gnomes love this drug, pesh, but don't suffer from its addictive properties.

Already I'm impressed by the number of imaginative concepts packed into this product, and I'm only about 1/3 of the way through the 32 pages.

CharlieRock wrote:

I hope this one is going to be like the Second Darkness companion. In Second Darkness it was more of a gazeteer for Riddleport. I didnt need the AP to enjoy and use the Companion.

It's got the gazetteer feel to it, and is also peppered with character traits related to the AP. This definitely can stand alone by itself to provide flavor and feel for the region. Katapesh is a very interesting location. I especially like the inclusion of gnolls. Although they aren't overtly presented as a playable race, I think that option is there for those who want to take it. The presence of half-elves in the markets and Nightstalls, along with the migration of occasional wild elves entering Katapesh from the Mwangi Expanse, have me thinking of character and story-seeds.

Oh, I also like the prevalence of a certain addictive drug--perhaps part of the namesake of the region? Also interesting is the quirk that gnomes love this drug, pesh, but don't suffer from its addictive properties.

Already I'm impressed by the number of imaginative concepts packed into this product, and I'm only about 1/3 of the way through the 32 pages.

Okay, I have a few questions that may be errata.

The Genie Blood trait says that with the air trait you gain a bonus vs. cold and for water you gain a bonus vs. electricity. This is the opposite of everything in the beta. Is this intentional?

Also, the Madu is the equivalent of a spiked shield with a few exceptions, but is listed as having no armor/shield bonus and a max dex bonus of +1. the column headers are also in the reverse order of the standard equipment chart. Please tell me it's supposed to be +1 shield bonus and no max dex!

And don't get me wrong, the companion has got me more excited about an AP than I have been since RotRL premiered! The fact that I'm finding these inconsistencies only shows how much you've caught my interest!