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Crimson Jester, Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 05:07 PM

Are there any specific Dragons that will be expanded upon? The powerful elder Dragons or a well known Draco-Lich or two?

Insert Neat Username Here, Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 05:10 PM

Will this have any detail on the new Dragon that was printed in Pathfinder 11?

Rauol_Duke (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber), Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 06:44 PM

All right, McArtor!!!

Gninjita (Good Ninja Minion), Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 06:46 PM

Hooray master!

Mr Baron (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 06:57 PM

its good to see Mike's name on the credits!

Todd Stewart (Contributor), Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 07:05 PM

I must have this. :)

Shem (Paizo Charter Superscriber), Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 09:30 PM

Another book I cannot live without. I am loving what you guys are doing with the world.

Elorebaen (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 09:46 PM

Shem wrote:

Another book I cannot live without. I am loving what you guys are doing with the world.

My thoughts exactly!

Knightfall1972, Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 12:01 AM

WOO-HOO!!!

baron arem heshvaun (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 12:05 AM

SHUUWEET !!

and of course

::ALL HAIL ZOMBIE MIKE::

Zootcat (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber), Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 12:57 AM

Yay, Mike! Mike's Mithral Dragon in Kobold Quarterly #4 was really cool. Now, he's doing a whole book on dragons!

Elorebaen (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber), Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 09:06 AM

Will the dragon info from PF#4 be included? Expanded upon?

Thanks.

Timespike, Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 09:16 AM

Nice! I need to get that higher-paying job so my wife will let me subscribe to chronicles instead of getting 'em piecemeal...

IconoclasticScream (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 04:47 PM

Todd Lockwood? Maybe? Please?

Mr Baron (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 12:57 AM

No doubt that Todd Lockwood would be great. His dragons are simply the best in the business. However, I think he is above their price range.

Now with all that said, he really does enjoy painting up dragons.....

golem101 (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber), Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 01:28 AM

IconoclasticScream wrote:

Todd Lockwood? Maybe? Please?

That would be SWEET.

How much this will expand/elaborate the info about dragons given in PF #4?

Lord Thavian (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber), Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 10:18 AM

If this is anything like Classic Monsters Revisited... then we are all in for a nice little treat!
(Rubs hands together in anticipation!)

Ross Byers (Assistant Software Developer), Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 10:29 AM

Will this be retconning any information from the article on Dragons from the pathfinder AP? What about Dragonfall?

IconoclasticScream (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 06:56 PM

Mr Baron wrote:

However, I think he is above their price range.

We could start a collection.

Dragonhelm, Wed, Aug 6, 2008, 01:27 PM

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

Now, if Paizo would only put out a psionics system complete with gem dragons...

Ravenmantle (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Wed, Aug 6, 2008, 07:25 PM

Dragonhelm wrote:

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

You are such a Dragonlance geek! :p

Dragonhelm, Wed, Aug 6, 2008, 07:36 PM

Ravenmantle wrote:

Dragonhelm wrote:

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

You are such a Dragonlance geek! :p

Look who's talking! ;)

KnightErrantJR, Wed, Aug 6, 2008, 08:23 PM

It's so odd to see such dignified "knights" wearing such crude skins . . . ;)

Krome (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Aug 8, 2008, 05:50 PM

FREAKIN A BABY! I can't wait

*gnaws on an elf leg until then*

Ravenmantle (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Aug 8, 2008, 09:47 PM

I'm a sucker for dragons and I particularly like the way dragons are handled in the Dragonlance setting. I hope, and trust, that the folks at Paizo can conjure something similar for the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. By that I mean making the dragons a part of the setting itself rather than just huge XP awards.

Mike McArtor (Contributor), Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 01:12 PM

Ravenmantle wrote:

I'm a sucker for dragons and I particularly like the way dragons are handled in the Dragonlance setting. I hope, and trust, that the folks at Paizo can conjure something similar for the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. By that I mean making the dragons a part of the setting itself rather than just huge XP awards.

If I can't do that to your satisfaction you have permission to kick me in the shins. Repeatedly.

Ravenmantle (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 01:06 AM

See, now my evil twin's hoping you'll roll a 1 on your Craft (book) check just so he can kick you in the shins. Repeatedly.

Crimson Jester, Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 10:39 PM

Mike McArtor wrote:

If I can't do that to your satisfaction you have permission to kick me in the shins. Repeatedly.

Can we just kick you in the shins anyway?? :)

Byron Zibeck (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber), Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 01:11 AM

Bah, I want my Undead :-)

Pathfinder X, Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 08:31 AM

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

Elorebaen (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 08:44 AM

I am interested in this as well.

Ross Byers wrote:

Will this be retconning any information from the article on Dragons from the pathfinder AP? What about Dragonfall?

DragonBelow (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber), Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 09:30 AM

You *HAVE* to make this cover into a poster, I pledge to you my first hatched in return.

Charles Scholz (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 09:52 AM

Pathfinder X wrote:

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

The 'Elves' book stats conformed with 3.5 rules. It will probably be the same with any book until the PFRPG comes out in August 2009.

yoda8myhead (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 09:57 AM

Charles Scholz wrote:

Pathfinder X wrote:

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

The 'Elves' book stats conformed with 3.5 rules. It will probably be the same with any book until the PFRPG comes out in August 2009.

And given the backwards compatible nature of PFRPG, no major stat changes should be necessary. If this is anything like CMR, it'll be primarily flavor anyway. If the stats for the dragons themselves change in PFRPG, they'll be included in the Bestiary in July.

James Jacobs (Editor-in-Chief, Pathfinder), Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 11:39 AM

Pathfinder X wrote:

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

The only thing in the book that'll not mesh 100% with Pathfinder RPG is the base stat blocks for the dragons. And those base stat blocks will be in the Pathfinder Bestiary. The rest of the book is mostly flavor, but any other bits of crunch that might end up there will be compatible with both 3.5 and PF RPG. No need for a web enhancement or even a reprint.

Rechan, Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 04:44 PM

I really hope this does offer a new spin on some dragon types. Something a little more intriguing than "Whites = Dum + Cold", or at least some different ways to spice ye olde dragon color up.

KnightErrantJR, Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 04:59 PM

Rechan wrote:

I really hope this does offer a new spin on some dragon types. Something a little more intriguing than "Whites = Dum + Cold", or at least some different ways to spice ye olde dragon color up.

Well, actually, white dragons haven't been "dumb" for a while now. They aren't nearly as smart as other dragon types, but at their adult state, they are as intelligent as an average human.

Sure, the red dragons use big words to insult them that the white dragon's don't understand, but they can at least process the basic algebra they need to figure out the size of their hoards.

Cheddar Bearer, Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 09:58 AM

I really like the actual cover for this but does this mean the end to Wayne Reynolds cover for the Pathfinder Chronicles line or is this a one off? Anyone know? Regardless the cover is still pretty damn cool.

Russ Taylor (RPG Superstar Top 6, Contributor), Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:02 AM

KnightErrantJR wrote:

They aren't nearly as smart as other dragon types, but at their adult state, they are as intelligent as an average human.

That's not exactly setting the bar high, is it?

0gre, Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:19 AM

Shouldn't the cover be updated based on the blog?

Ungoded, Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:25 AM

It usually takes a little while (few weeks) for the layout people to get the cover finished after the final artwork comes in.

Vic will pop in here and update the cover when it is finished.

Drakli (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Fri, Nov 21, 2008, 02:59 PM

Mike McArtor wrote:

If I can't do that to your satisfaction you have permission to kick me in the shins. Repeatedly.

Can I kick someone in the shins if Oriental Dragons aren't done justice when they eventually crop up? I might take some flak for it, but they've been big favorites of mine for ages, and I think D&D has had a tendency to treat them as red-headed step-children next to their winged Western kinfolk. 3E Lung couldn't even cast spells (when chromatic and metallics could,) and they were the ones supposed to be the nature-attuned spirit beings.

Special note: I do not actually intend to kick anyone in the shins over D20 stuff.

PS Special Note: Sorry if this was a thread-jack, just thought I'd speak up about reflavored dragons when I had the opportunity. :)

Sean K Reynolds (Developer), Fri, Nov 21, 2008, 03:07 PM

I'm sure that if/when we ever get to that region of the world, we'll talk about Oriental dragons. And I'll make sure they're cool (I've been a fan of them since the 1e Fiend Folio).

nightflier, Fri, Nov 21, 2008, 03:17 PM

What about "little dragons", i mean, pseudodragons and faery dragons? In my opinion, they are underused in many campaigns. Is there any possibility to have more than one kind of pseudodragons in Bestiary (or in separate product), pretty please?

Sean K Reynolds (Developer), Fri, Nov 21, 2008, 03:37 PM

"Answer hazy."

(Jason and James are the ones who decide what goes in the Bestiary, and deal with page count issues.)

Mr Baron (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Tue, Jan 6, 2009, 06:52 PM

any idea when we will see the new cover?

Todd Stewart (Contributor), Tue, Jan 6, 2009, 07:54 PM

And I adore faerie dragons. Just saying. :)

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Wed, Jan 7, 2009, 01:16 PM

Mr Baron wrote:

any idea when we will see the new cover?

Right now! (If you don't see red vs. white, flush your browser's image cache.)

I've also updated the product description to match the back cover.

Lisa Stevens (CEO), Fri, Jan 9, 2009, 06:05 PM

Check out the actual cover art! Woot!

-Lisa

Tukadian, Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 05:02 AM

When will this book be coming out in PDF format to download? I'm stationed in Afghanistan right now, and will be headed back home mid-march, it would be awesome to have this book to read on the plane!
Oh and I loved Classic Monsters Revisited. My favorite D&D material has always been the monster manuals, bestiaries, tomes of horrors, fiend folios and various other collections of nasties. It's like a humongous world of possibility with each page, and I am in love with the possibilities you have been presenting me. My favorite of all of them would have to be the Stewie Griffon headed goblins; once I read the 10 fun facts about goblins in PF #1 I was hooked on them. Will any of the dragons be getting some similar humorous treatment?