Are there any specific Dragons that will be expanded upon? The powerful elder Dragons or a well known Draco-Lich or two?

Will this have any detail on the new Dragon that was printed in Pathfinder 11?

All right, McArtor!!!

Hooray master!

its good to see Mike's name on the credits!

I must have this. :)

Another book I cannot live without. I am loving what you guys are doing with the world.

Another book I cannot live without. I am loving what you guys are doing with the world.

My thoughts exactly!

WOO-HOO!!!

SHUUWEET !!

and of course

::ALL HAIL ZOMBIE MIKE::

Yay, Mike! Mike's Mithral Dragon in Kobold Quarterly #4 was really cool. Now, he's doing a whole book on dragons!

Will the dragon info from PF#4 be included? Expanded upon?

Thanks.

Nice! I need to get that higher-paying job so my wife will let me subscribe to chronicles instead of getting 'em piecemeal...

Todd Lockwood? Maybe? Please?

No doubt that Todd Lockwood would be great. His dragons are simply the best in the business. However, I think he is above their price range.

Now with all that said, he really does enjoy painting up dragons.....

Todd Lockwood? Maybe? Please?

That would be SWEET.

How much this will expand/elaborate the info about dragons given in PF #4?

If this is anything like Classic Monsters Revisited... then we are all in for a nice little treat!
(Rubs hands together in anticipation!)

Will this be retconning any information from the article on Dragons from the pathfinder AP? What about Dragonfall?

However, I think he is above their price range.

We could start a collection.

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

Now, if Paizo would only put out a psionics system complete with gem dragons...

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

You are such a Dragonlance geek! :p

Dragonhelm wrote:

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

You are such a Dragonlance geek! :p

Look who's talking! ;)

It's so odd to see such dignified "knights" wearing such crude skins . . . ;)

FREAKIN A BABY! I can't wait

*gnaws on an elf leg until then*

I'm a sucker for dragons and I particularly like the way dragons are handled in the Dragonlance setting. I hope, and trust, that the folks at Paizo can conjure something similar for the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. By that I mean making the dragons a part of the setting itself rather than just huge XP awards.

I'm a sucker for dragons and I particularly like the way dragons are handled in the Dragonlance setting. I hope, and trust, that the folks at Paizo can conjure something similar for the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. By that I mean making the dragons a part of the setting itself rather than just huge XP awards.

If I can't do that to your satisfaction you have permission to kick me in the shins. Repeatedly.

See, now my evil twin's hoping you'll roll a 1 on your Craft (book) check just so he can kick you in the shins. Repeatedly.

If I can't do that to your satisfaction you have permission to kick me in the shins. Repeatedly.

Can we just kick you in the shins anyway?? :)

Bah, I want my Undead :-)

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

I am interested in this as well.

Will this be retconning any information from the article on Dragons from the pathfinder AP? What about Dragonfall?

You *HAVE* to make this cover into a poster, I pledge to you my first hatched in return.

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

The 'Elves' book stats conformed with 3.5 rules. It will probably be the same with any book until the PFRPG comes out in August 2009.

Pathfinder X wrote:

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

The 'Elves' book stats conformed with 3.5 rules. It will probably be the same with any book until the PFRPG comes out in August 2009.

And given the backwards compatible nature of PFRPG, no major stat changes should be necessary. If this is anything like CMR, it'll be primarily flavor anyway. If the stats for the dragons themselves change in PFRPG, they'll be included in the Bestiary in July.

Cool, r3visted dragons! not 4dventure dragons! But will they need to be re-revisted to conform to Pathfinder rules in August? or will there be a Web-enhancement?

The only thing in the book that'll not mesh 100% with Pathfinder RPG is the base stat blocks for the dragons. And those base stat blocks will be in the Pathfinder Bestiary. The rest of the book is mostly flavor, but any other bits of crunch that might end up there will be compatible with both 3.5 and PF RPG. No need for a web enhancement or even a reprint.

I really hope this does offer a new spin on some dragon types. Something a little more intriguing than "Whites = Dum + Cold", or at least some different ways to spice ye olde dragon color up.

I really hope this does offer a new spin on some dragon types. Something a little more intriguing than "Whites = Dum + Cold", or at least some different ways to spice ye olde dragon color up.

Well, actually, white dragons haven't been "dumb" for a while now. They aren't nearly as smart as other dragon types, but at their adult state, they are as intelligent as an average human.

Sure, the red dragons use big words to insult them that the white dragon's don't understand, but they can at least process the basic algebra they need to figure out the size of their hoards.

I really like the actual cover for this but does this mean the end to Wayne Reynolds cover for the Pathfinder Chronicles line or is this a one off? Anyone know? Regardless the cover is still pretty damn cool.

They aren't nearly as smart as other dragon types, but at their adult state, they are as intelligent as an average human.

That's not exactly setting the bar high, is it?

Shouldn't the cover be updated based on the blog?

It usually takes a little while (few weeks) for the layout people to get the cover finished after the final artwork comes in.

Vic will pop in here and update the cover when it is finished.

If I can't do that to your satisfaction you have permission to kick me in the shins. Repeatedly.

Can I kick someone in the shins if Oriental Dragons aren't done justice when they eventually crop up? I might take some flak for it, but they've been big favorites of mine for ages, and I think D&D has had a tendency to treat them as red-headed step-children next to their winged Western kinfolk. 3E Lung couldn't even cast spells (when chromatic and metallics could,) and they were the ones supposed to be the nature-attuned spirit beings.

Special note: I do not actually intend to kick anyone in the shins over D20 stuff.

PS Special Note: Sorry if this was a thread-jack, just thought I'd speak up about reflavored dragons when I had the opportunity. :)

I'm sure that if/when we ever get to that region of the world, we'll talk about Oriental dragons. And I'll make sure they're cool (I've been a fan of them since the 1e Fiend Folio).

What about "little dragons", i mean, pseudodragons and faery dragons? In my opinion, they are underused in many campaigns. Is there any possibility to have more than one kind of pseudodragons in Bestiary (or in separate product), pretty please?

"Answer hazy."

(Jason and James are the ones who decide what goes in the Bestiary, and deal with page count issues.)

any idea when we will see the new cover?

And I adore faerie dragons. Just saying. :)

any idea when we will see the new cover?

Right now! (If you don't see red vs. white, flush your browser's image cache.)

I've also updated the product description to match the back cover.

Check out the actual cover art! Woot!

-Lisa

When will this book be coming out in PDF format to download? I'm stationed in Afghanistan right now, and will be headed back home mid-march, it would be awesome to have this book to read on the plane!
Oh and I loved Classic Monsters Revisited. My favorite D&D material has always been the monster manuals, bestiaries, tomes of horrors, fiend folios and various other collections of nasties. It's like a humongous world of possibility with each page, and I am in love with the possibilities you have been presenting me. My favorite of all of them would have to be the Stewie Griffon headed goblins; once I read the 10 fun facts about goblins in PF #1 I was hooked on them. Will any of the dragons be getting some similar humorous treatment?