Ummmm no Map showing all the regions? you have individual maps of each region talked about, but it makes it difficult to view the region as a whole when they are not all brought into one map.

Any product that Have a Map of the full region of Darkmoon Vale with the detail shown in this guide or close to it?

I'm considering using good ol' photoshop to throw together just such a thing . . . but I'd not say "no" to a free download :).

Good read so far, though I'm not quite through it . . .

I love the picture of Ezren getting eaten by the werewolf and all but I would have preferred a map of the region too...

Hi,

will a PDF version be available?

Ummmm no Map showing all the regions? you have individual maps of each region talked about, but it makes it difficult to view the region as a whole when they are not all brought into one map.

Any product that Have a Map of the full region of Darkmoon Vale with the detail shown in this guide or close to it?

will a PDF version be available?

Nice, thanks.
I'm very keen for it as I'm currently gming a campaign d0-d1.5 and there's seemingly a break between d1 and d1.5 (level 4)

yolo wrote:

will a PDF version be available?

PDF should be available for purchase at about the same time the book hits retail shelves, within a couple weeks usually.

Um... is it me or is there something wrong with the poster map vis-a-vis the maps in the book?

Um... is it me or is there something wrong with the poster map vis-a-vis the maps in the book?

Is anyone at Paizo ever going to send me my copy? Or perhaps even respond to one of my inquiries?

Is anyone at Paizo ever going to send me my copy? Or perhaps even respond to one of my inquiries?

While I've enjoyed reading this book, I have to say the poor editing of the text & the maps has been really frustrating!

Lots of locations in the text are not marked on either the maps in the book or the poster map. This is particularly confusing for the wilderness locations in Chapter 1 as I have no idea where a lot of these are, and it also happens in Chapter 2. The locations in Olfden on p33 are given "alphanumeric" designators but nothing is marked on the town map!

Is there any chance of posting all the maps on this site with the proper labels?

Cheers

Richard

veector wrote:

Um... is it me or is there something wrong with the poster map vis-a-vis the maps in the book?

Can you elaborate on this? I didn't notice anything, but perhaps you have a better Perception check than I do.

Many maps also lack basic things like scale and compass rose.

In the "sidebar" about Karlae Siegefrost (at the bottom of pg. 41), the text cuts off in mid-sentence. I'm looking at the pdf version...I don't know if this is the case in the print version as well. Any chance of finding out what the full text is?

In the "sidebar" about Karlae Siegefrost (at the bottom of pg. 41), the text cuts off in mid-sentence. I'm looking at the pdf version...I don't know if this is the case in the print version as well. Any chance of finding out what the full text is?

How modular is this product? Would I get a lot of use out of this book if I chose to put Darkmoon Vale someplace else entirely such as Varisia, Greyhawk, or even Eberron?

I really like regional settings that give me a more intimate look at a smaller area to a big global or continental setting. At the same time, I don't need a region that's so locked into it's global or continental setting that I can't make use of it in a home campaign.

Any thoughts/reviews?

Thanks, all.

I think it's fairly modular - you could easily put it on the edges of the Eldeen Reaches in Eberron if you so desired.

My reactions to this book are mixed.

I loved the overall book itself. It had some great stuff in there and was very creative. However, I was disappointed at the multitude of spelling errors and the lack of location marks on the map of Olfden.

FatRat wrote:

In the "sidebar" about Karlae Siegefrost (at the bottom of pg. 41), the text cuts off in mid-sentence. I'm looking at the pdf version...I don't know if this is the case in the print version as well. Any chance of finding out what the full text is?

Ah phooey. I'll see if I have the original text on my home computer when I get home.

One more question: is this the book wherein we finally find out the official version of what 'lurking evil' is under the old dwarven monastery?

Spoiler it if you want, but I'me getting increasingly curious as to just what the heck it is!

The table on page 60 is very bad edited. Magistrate Vamros Harg appears two times (one as Magistrate Vamros Harg and other as Vamros Harg and he has different levels and classes). Ingrid odeber appears with wrong race.
On page 3 in the description of the appendix, we are promised a new monster (the dream wolf) that´s only cited on page 24 (is that all about him ?) ].

The table on page 60 is very bad edited. Magistrate Vamros Harg appears two times (one as Magistrate Vamros Harg and other as Vamros Harg and he has different levels and classes). Ingrid odeber appears with wrong race.
On page 3 in the description of the appendix, we are promised a new monster (the dream wolf) that´s only cited on page 24 (is that all about him ?) ].

One more question: is this the book wherein we finally find out the official version of what 'lurking evil' is under the old dwarven monastery?

Spoiler it if you want, but I'me getting increasingly curious as to just what the heck it is!

Eric Hinkle wrote:

One more question: is this the book wherein we finally find out the official version of what 'lurking evil' is under the old dwarven monastery?

Spoiler it if you want, but I'me getting increasingly curious as to just what the heck it is!

You want Hungry Are the Dead, then.

I finally got the book and I love it. Just a few questions/comments though:

1) In the big character list we see Magistrate Vamros Harg listed as a NE expert/sorcerer and as a N expert. Was this an error, or are there two halflings named Vamros Harg running around in the Vale?

Or of course, Kreed got tired of N Harg's wimpiness and decided to replace him with someone (or thing) who can be better relied upon... I had a hard time seeing a NE character being bothered over not being able to enforce 'true justice' anyway.

2) Yay for all the wolves, wolf monsters, and werewolves, as I'm a big wolf fan. Will we ever see Lycanthropes of Golarion, either as an article or a book?

And am I wrong or did one of the people with Paizo say that Golarion has a 'demon lord of werewolves'? If so, can I get any further information on this character?

Okay, I did miss the book's not having the info on the dream wolves, though I can cobble something together (maybe they're sacred to Desna?). I hope the Pathfinder Bestiary includes an entry for them though.

Thanks Paizo for another great book.

1) In the big character list we see Magistrate Vamros Harg listed as a NE expert/sorcerer and as a N expert. Was this an error, or are there two halflings named Vamros Harg running around in the Vale?

2) Yay for all the wolves, wolf monsters, and werewolves, as I'm a big wolf fan. Will we ever see Lycanthropes of Golarion, either as an article or a book?

And am I wrong or did one of the people with Paizo say that Golarion has a 'demon lord of werewolves'? If so, can I get any further information on this character?

Okay, I did miss the book's not having the info on the dream wolves, though I can cobble something together (maybe they're sacred to Desna?). I hope the Pathfinder Bestiary includes an entry for them though.

Thanks for the information, Mister Jacobs.

I have been patiently watching this thread for the last lines about Karlae Siegfrost and where the Olfden map numbers were meant to go.
Is there an answer forthcoming Mr. Mike McArtor?

The fountain and town hall are easy to identify from the description, but the other listings could be in any number of locations.

I would love to see a web supplement or a full book treatment on Olfden to flesh out the bare bones framework we have so far.

Questions on my mind:
Why does a large walled town have such large gaps in the fortifications?
What is the significance of the largest buildings and the great deal of empty space around them? Manor houses? country estates inside the town?
temples? government buildings? farmland? pasture for siege times?

I have been patiently watching this thread for the last lines about Karlae Siegfrost and where the Olfden map numbers were meant to go.
Is there an answer forthcoming Mr. Mike McArtor?

The fountain and town hall are easy to identify from the description, but the other listings could be in any number of locations.

I would love to see a web supplement or a full book treatment on Olfden to flesh out the bare bones framework we have so far.

Questions on my mind:
Why does a large walled town have such large gaps in the fortifications?
What is the significance of the largest buildings and the great deal of empty space around them? Manor houses? country estates inside the town?
temples? government buildings? farmland? pasture for siege times?

We probably won't be doing much more with Olfden either; developing this information is mostly left in the hands of GMs. I'd certainly love to see what some of the creative folks here on the messageboards could come up with for answers to these questions.

But with the constant needs of Pathfinder's monthly schedule, launching a new edition of the game, launching a massive Organized Play campaign, increasing the number of supplements we produce, and a few other things still coming soon that we can't really talk about yet, chances of anyone at Paizo being able to go back to Darkmoon Vale and provide more information beyond what's already in the book are, unfortunately, pretty slim.

Now, that said in my last post, here's how I would explain the questions you asked:

Why does a large walled town have such large gaps in the fortifications?
What is the significance of the largest buildings and the great deal of empty space around them? Manor houses? country estates inside the town?
temples? government buildings? farmland? pasture for siege times?

The missing locations are kind of annoying, I agree. My advice there is to ignore the "O1" and "O2" and other keys entirely and simply place those locations where you wish; as I said in my previous post, there's little chance in the near future of Paizo coming along to "invalidate" the choices you make by expanding the information on Olfden.

Of course, reading the descriptions gives some good clues; the fact that the Sarenrae temple's the "Largest in Darkmoon Vale" argues pretty trongly for it being one of the largest, if not THE largest buildings in the city. My vote would go for the T-shaped building wiht the dome in the northeasternmost corner of the large open area for this building.

The five falcon fountain is likely the tiny blue circle in front of the biggest building in the city, and that would make that building the Town Hall, of course.

The other locations are all pretty tiny buildings and can pretty much go anywhere.

Anyway, I'd say that the large empty area is significant in that it's the town commons, a fair ground, if you will. The buildings there are probably noble villas, the town hall, the temple of Sarenrae, and other public works.

We probably won't be doing much more with Olfden either; developing this information is mostly left in the hands of GMs. I'd certainly love to see what some of the creative folks here on the messageboards could come up with for answers to these questions.

But with the constant needs of Pathfinder's monthly schedule, launching a new edition of the game, launching a massive Organized Play campaign, increasing the number of supplements we produce, and a few other things still coming soon that we can't really talk about yet, chances of anyone at Paizo being able to go back to Darkmoon Vale and provide more information beyond what's already in the book are, unfortunately, pretty slim.

James Jacobs wrote:

We probably won't be doing much more with Olfden either; developing this information is mostly left in the hands of GMs. I'd certainly love to see what some of the creative folks here on the messageboards could come up with for answers to these questions.

But with the constant needs of Pathfinder's monthly schedule, launching a new edition of the game, launching a massive Organized Play campaign, increasing the number of supplements we produce, and a few other things still coming soon that we can't really talk about yet, chances of anyone at Paizo being able to go back to Darkmoon Vale and provide more information beyond what's already in the book are, unfortunately, pretty slim.

I will take that as a green light to develop sites and npcs in Olfden.
When I have some content I will post back here to let everyone know.

I'd like to see that content. Do post back here when you've got something.

Darkmoon Vale looks like a great place to adventure and I'm loving the guide but there are a few confusing bits.

I love this book. I personally thought it was superior to Korvosa myself. The flavor of the area is just ripe with lots of fun

Oh argh, I looked at the thread of comments at the bottom of the item page and did not see any of the earlier comments about the missing text, and the responses about Paizo's publishing schedule were not there either. Sorry about bringing up a dead horse.

Hi, does Paizo put out errata for their products?

I'm less concerned with the maps than the places where the text is just unclear or missing. For example, Karlae Siegfrost's bio on page 41 just trails off midsentence and Vamros Harg is listed twice on the NPC list on page 60 with two different statlines (one puts him at level 3, the other at level 7).

The only map issue I had was the fact that two ruined human settlements (Falconridge and Northsap) were mentioned in the text but their locations do not appear on any of the smaller maps.

The vast majority of the book is really excellent, and I'd love to add the errata to my copy.

Hi, does Paizo put out errata for their products?