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Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

Anyone know what system?

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

Who cares! :-)


Mactaka wrote:
Anyone know what system?

It's Pagan, so BRP. It *might* have a d20 appendix, but it seems unlikely.


Whoa! Why the sudden five dollar price jump?

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Whoa! Why the sudden five dollar price jump?

We automatically update prices based on changes in our distributor's database... those changes don't come with explanations, but the answer is usually that the manufacturer raised the MSRP.


It's BRP-Chaosium's system.

I'm kinda mesmerized by it at the moment. Brief but pretty thorough history breakdown of Mexico/Central America down through the ages and all.

The art is really really nice. It's all b&w if that matters.
My only qualm is the "sidebars" are in this somewhat difficult to read cursive font, but I'll live.

At the moment I'm just really enjoying the history chapter, as well as the sprinklings of pseudoscientific theories about prehistoric Central American visits by Africa implied by the somewhat African-looking giant Olmec heads and such.

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Man, I need to get this puppy. My Opal game is headed right into Mesoamerican/Lovecraftian territory. You looking for some fun stuff to smack the Regulators with Heathy?


Yeah, maybe.
Doubt I'll use anything verbatim, it's just a good fit with the Isle of Dread.
It seems like the usual CofC adventure(s)--go somewhere weird, find some weird stuff, fight some weird cultists, and then fight their weird god, but I just like the fluff they come up with more than anything.

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

yeah that's what I would get it for ...yoinky bits. That and Razor Coast if it ever ships :(


I think RC will ship eventually. I'd guess 4-6 months, but what do I know?


Like, for instance, I'm reading about....okay, maybe Africans took a boat over there to Central America back in the day.
For Isle of Dread, it got me thinking: why didn't some guys from Hepmonaland take a boat way on down there? Mwahahahahaaaa....
Then, come to think of it, there sure is a general lack of information about Hepmonaland to my knowledge. It just seems like a weird place on the map. But I guess that's cool, it's an open book or something, waiting to be written.

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Heathansson wrote:

Like, for instance, I'm reading about....okay, maybe Africans took a boat over there to Central America back in the day.

For Isle of Dread, it got me thinking: why didn't some guys from Hepmonaland take a boat way on down there? Mwahahahahaaaa....
Then, come to think of it, there sure is a general lack of information about Hepmonaland to my knowledge. It just seems like a weird place on the map. But I guess that's cool, it's an open book or something, waiting to be written.

Might want to check out the AD&D stuff on it first Heathy, there is some information, altough what I can dimly recall seems to fit in with the Olman - mesoamerican theme colonized by the Scarlet Brotherhood type of stuff. They had imported warriors from Hepmonaland that seemed to be more African jungle tribe types in their depictions during the Greyhawk Wars - again, if memory serves.

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Meh. I like working with a blank canvas. The only 'canonical' setting I feel comfortable running is Planescape, everything else I do is homebrew. That way I can yoink from here and there.

If you want some African cultures try Benin, Songhai or Ghana for yoink stuff.

And RC should be in the mail within a month crosses fingers


My take on it was this: back in the day, Gygax would make these modules like b1 and tell you to write half the damn thing. I thought Greyhawk was like that too....and now here's this Hepmonaland place, on the edge of the map. Look....the continent's not even complete, for crying out loud. Draw something up and splice your little chunk of hex paper on the bottom there. There, now you're a dungeonmaster, kid!
So I just go with it. I blame it on Gygax really.


Oh, and there's a big to-do about

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which mytho's being is really this certain Aztec deity. Hell, even the people in the adventure are fighting about it. I dig that kinda stuff.

It's a cool idea.


Patrick Curtin wrote:

Meh. I like working with a blank canvas. The only 'canonical' setting I feel comfortable running is Planescape, everything else I do is homebrew. That way I can yoink from here and there.

If you want some African cultures try Benin, Songhai or Ghana for yoink stuff.

And RC should be in the mail within a month crosses fingers

Oh, I read this book "Into the Out of" by Alan Dean Foster; it's got maasai and kikuyu, and these evil shetani creatures.

I always wanted to do something with that one.


Oh, and in the book, I like the "P.C.-R.I.P." thingy.
Turin,....it reminded me of that Alan Stewart killer d.m. guy for some reason.

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Heathansson wrote:

My take on it was this: back in the day, Gygax would make these modules like b1 and tell you to write half the damn thing. I thought Greyhawk was like that too....and now here's this Hepmonaland place, on the edge of the map. Look....the continent's not even complete, for crying out loud. Draw something up and splice your little chunk of hex paper on the bottom there. There, now you're a dungeonmaster, kid!

So I just go with it. I blame it on Gygax really.

LOL - Absolutely, go for it! After all, it's a big BIG land-mass, the stuff mentioned in Greyhawk Wars is just icing on top of a really big cake. The further away from 'civilization' the greater the 'dark continent' aspect, especially combined with the Olman Empire thing. Nothing says there can't be a Mountains of Madness at the end of the trip with a few hundred hungry shoggoths waiting for someone to open the door... or worse ...


There's always room for Shoggoths.
I like them because jell-o can be substituted for the miniature.

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Heathansson wrote:

Oh, and in the book, I like the "P.C.-R.I.P." thingy.

Turin,....it reminded me of that Alan Stewart killer d.m. guy for some reason.

^_^ Allen and I know each other IRL, so the fact that he reads very little in the sci-fi / horror department, he has read some over the years. It will be interesting to see what he thinks of that comparison. Chuckles

Well, I do like the CoC version of the death certificate. I have a small stack of those character death certificates, not the ones in that product though to use for my next campaign. It can be a way to track character deaths for meeting the "Deathrisen" Achievement Feat, for example... ^_^


heh heh....the Native Central Americans distrusted the Spaniards because they were gaga over gold, which was, according to them, the excrement of the gods.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

I've already hinted to my wife I want this book. I have yet to read a poorly written Pagan Publishing book.


I just wanted to say that I have a copy and it is fantastic. Great art along with well-written scenarios and terrific research behind the culture of the native people. I highly recommend this book to Cthulhu fans as well as GMs running campaigns ala the Savage Tides. Now I just have to run it for my players....


It looked kinda steep so I vacillated a lot, but I think it was money well spent.
I'm picking up all kinds of tiny little anecdotal trivia as well, like what the name Huizilopochtli means? Left-handed hummingbird.

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Heathansson wrote:

It looked kinda steep so I vacillated a lot, but I think it was money well spent.

I'm picking up all kinds of tiny little anecdotal trivia as well, like what the name Huizilopochtli means? Left-handed hummingbird.

Yeah, some of those translated names are great. I love Tezcatlipoca: 'Smoking Obsidian Mirror'. Another great yoink book is the Popul Vuh The Mayan 'Book of the Community' feathuring such lovely guys as Bloody Hands and Seven Death. Some great stuff in there.


Yeah; they had a bunch of xibalbans in the Palladium Rifts: Vampires/Mexico book. I love that book.

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Xibalba FTW!

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Turin the Mad wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

Like, for instance, I'm reading about....okay, maybe Africans took a boat over there to Central America back in the day.

For Isle of Dread, it got me thinking: why didn't some guys from Hepmonaland take a boat way on down there? Mwahahahahaaaa....
Then, come to think of it, there sure is a general lack of information about Hepmonaland to my knowledge. It just seems like a weird place on the map. But I guess that's cool, it's an open book or something, waiting to be written.

Might want to check out the AD&D stuff on it first Heathy, there is some information, altough what I can dimly recall seems to fit in with the Olman - mesoamerican theme colonized by the Scarlet Brotherhood type of stuff. They had imported warriors from Hepmonaland that seemed to be more African jungle tribe types in their depictions during the Greyhawk Wars - again, if memory serves.

They also go into it more with The Scarlet Brotherhood Book. Though it explains how when the Rain of Colorless Fire came that Suel move ever Eastward and that some were able to sail to Hepmonland and reverted to Barbarism. There are also Olman and Touv racial stock on the Island, in the north and south respectively.

The story of the Suel and everything they did/ became made Oerth such an interesting place. I've based villainous groups on concepts of the Brotherhood for years.


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