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Might want to check on them as well. One of my buddies has had a preorder in for a while and it's not even listed on the website as having an expected date now. He's a little annoyed but it is what it is when you order online.
Diamond lists Amazon's copies as "Invoice Pending". That should mean that they went out of the Diamond warehouse recently, and are on their way to Amazon now. So they should be getting them fairly soon.
Will any of the Gazetter's Info be reprinted in the Campaign Setting Hardcover?Yes, in the same sense that a 256-page tourist's guide to Europe and a 64-page tourist's guide to Europe would contain some of the same information.
Ok, so basically if I buy the campaign setting, it should have most of the Gazeteer info in it. Cool, I'll just wait for the big one then.
james noyes
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)
I just wanted to link an excellent review which appeared a couple of days ago. It's highly praiseful, full of eye-openers, and adds a critical note on the following lines (excerpted here):
Four pages are devoted to time-keeping and the planar cosmology of the setting. Of these four pages, nearly three are devoted to a timeline that stretches back some 10,000 years and includes far too many points of detail. From such timelines is canon born and the obsession with such minutiae has been the death knell of many a game setting. Given the nature of the Age of Lost Omens, there was little need or purpose in detailing more than a century or two into the past. The rest is an indulgence that binds the hands of the referee and all but guarantees that future Pathfinder Chronicles will inevitably delve into such matters.
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In short, I like Golarion and I like this product... I have no doubt, though, that Paizo will develop and detail every nook and cranny of Golarion, turning it into a setting as obsessed with minutiae as any other published today. That's a great shame, as I think Golarion would make for a fine sandbox-style setting and I'm sorely tempted to try and use it as such, ignoring almost everything else that will be published for it and using the Gazetteer as my starting point.
Spot on! And for completeness' sake, the same reflection all over in the blog's comments section:
It's a very good product overall and I really do like the vibe of Golarion. My main beef with it is that (art aside, which is mostly a matter of taste) I am sure Paizo's publishing model will pretty much require that they flesh out every last inch of the setting over time, slowing adding tons of canonical minutiae that will simultaneously hamper referee creativity and make the setting inaccessible to newcomers. I could live with the art much better if I knew the setting itself were better insulated from the vicissitudes of modern gaming business plans.
Basically you would be getting a condensed version of the Campaign Setting. The primary advantage to me is that is takes up less room if you have to transport your books to the game. There is not a lot of fluff but some of everything the CS covers. The map covers 4 squares and gives a good sense of the world of Golarion. I hope this helps.
Just my 2 cp.
Basically you would be getting a condensed version of the Campaign Setting. The primary advantage to me is that is takes up less room if you have to transport your books to the game. There is not a lot of fluff but some of everything the CS covers. The map covers 4 squares and gives a good sense of the world of Golarion. I hope this helps.
Just my 2 cp.
Actually, it did help. Thank you!
So, i'm reading the different nations, and i come across Geb. I read from beginning to end about
Is this useful as a sort of "player's guide" to Golarion or does it reveal too much?
I'd like to have something to hand to my players other than the large campaign setting book. Is this it or is there some other product? (and yes, I know each Adventure Path has it's own player's guide).
It's completely appropriate for the use you're describing.
This is my opinion of course, but no- it doesn't reveal too much. It's a very general overview.
In what way does this material differ from the "Inner Sea" section of the Campaign Setting book? That section has 80+ pages describing major cities and regions; this book has 64 pages describing major cities and regions.
I assume it's not just reprinted material, but to what extend does it cover the same information?
In what way does this material differ from the "Inner Sea" section of the Campaign Setting book? That section has 80+ pages describing major cities and regions; this book has 64 pages describing major cities and regions.
I assume it's not just reprinted material, but to what extend does it cover the same information?
The Gazetteer is geared more for players, while the CS contains more details on things for a GM. Every nation has about 1/2 to 3/4 page in the Gazetteer as opposed to 2-4 in the CS.
Yeah, we don't plan to release a new version of this book, because there are almost no rules in it and thus little reason to "update" it to the new rules.
I do expect, eventually, to do some kind of updated Campaign Setting book, but since we still have thousands of the first printing and it is selling well, we'll most likely wait until we are nearing a sellout before we launch these plans in earnest.
