I've had some questions that keep springing up in the Ol' Thinker. How many units must sell in order to make a deck worth producing? If enough individuals were willing to pre-order a deck, and THEN submit requests on its content, discuss, debate, and agree; would "The Powers That BE" be willing and able to produce? Many people have had excellent ideas about what could be included in/comprise a whole deck; and I find myself sitting here reading it and saying "I'd buy that"; I'm guessing some of you have done this, as well. Thoughts?

...cheers...

I've had some questions that keep springing up in the Ol' Thinker. How many units must sell in order to make a deck worth producing? If enough individuals were willing to pre-order a deck, and THEN submit requests on its content, discuss, debate, and agree; would "The Powers That BE" be willing and able to produce? Many people have had excellent ideas about what could be included in/comprise a whole deck; and I find myself sitting here reading it and saying "I'd buy that"; I'm guessing some of you have done this, as well. Thoughts?

...cheers...

How many units must sell in order to make a deck worth producing? Many, many of hundreds. Probably more closely measurable in the thousands.

What happened to the "New Beginnings" deck? I thought I recalled seeing it posted with the rest of the cards, and was set to be released in July. Now I've seen it on quite a few other game retailers sites, but I don't see it listed here at Paizo. Is this deck still being released, and when is the ETA for the release?

Thanks,
mac1504

It was indefinitely postponed...

It has recently become clear that, given the unexpectedly late start necessitated by the product concept, it is no longer possible for us to finish the set on the original schedule, and delaying it would introduce conflicts with schedules for other sets. Thus, this product has been indefinitely postponed.

Basically, when we put this on the schedule in February, we were expecting to see the 4E equipment lists "any day now." In fact, we only got them last week, when 4E was officially released. So we haven't made a card list or commissioned the art yet, and our artist is now working on the Second Darkness deck. Since that deck needs to come out during the Second Darkness AP, we can't just slide everything back.
It's possible that New Beginnings might wind up on the 2009 product schedule, but it's also possible that it won't—we're making those sorts of decisions in the next few weeks. So, for now, it's indefinitely postponed.

Hi. I'm Dave and I'm addicted to item cards.

Hey Michael,

How many units must sell in order to make a deck worth producing? Many, many of hundreds. Probably more closely measurable in the thousands.
No kidding? I would not have expected thousands of units would be required to break even on production, and start seeing a profit. I guess that depends on the cost per unit and the number being produced. It's very unlikely that we the customers could amass enough pre-orders to offset those amounts. Oh well, I bounced an idea; thanks for bouncing back.

Cheers

I buy at least three boxes of each set...and I have complete sets of the Hero's Hoard and Relics of War (plus dozens and dozes of extras) - I'm doing my part!

Do I need to order this, or will it be sent automaically as part of the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription? In the past, upcoming products were shown in "My Account" under Shipping Soon (which has disappeared).

Do I need to order this, or will it be sent automaically as part of the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription? In the past, upcoming products were shown in "My Account" under Shipping Soon (which has disappeared).

-Lisa

So when do we get to see a some teasers?!?

There seems to be a 0 reviews (of course, the deck isn't even out yet), but a 4.5 star rating. Any clue what could cause that?

There seems to be a 0 reviews (of course, the deck isn't even out yet), but a 4.5 star rating. Any clue what could cause that?

Iziak wrote:

There seems to be a 0 reviews (of course, the deck isn't even out yet), but a 4.5 star rating. Any clue what could cause that?

It's just that good.

Product Schedule says these are expected early November. Any news on when these will arrive/ship?

Does it come with a spiked chain card? It just so happens I have a player who wants to play a cleric of Zon-Kuthon in Second Darkness...

Product Schedule says these are expected early November. Any news on when these will arrive/ship?

We're waiting on an update from the printer, but I think these will be here no earlier than December.

Just noted this got pushed back to January 2009. Is there no chance to get them before Christmas? I had a bunch of stuff in my cart waiting to be non-preorder for the shipping discount, but Christmas gifts do me no good in January....

Just noted this got pushed back to January 2009. Is there no chance to get them before Christmas? I had a bunch of stuff in my cart waiting to be non-preorder for the shipping discount, but Christmas gifts do me no good in January....

We shall just have to see won't we? I know I'm already waiting till January and beyond for the one book to come out that I really wanna see, Razor Coast to be specific, so I have another to wait on, big whoop. I'll just be waiting to be billed for it and then for it to arrive. Although a spiked chain would be nice to have in the set.

Joana wrote:

Just noted this got pushed back to January 2009. Is there no chance to get them before Christmas? I had a bunch of stuff in my cart waiting to be non-preorder for the shipping discount, but Christmas gifts do me no good in January....

We don't have a firm delivery date yet, but if it does make it here December, it would almost certainly still be after Christmas.

Items cards are no longer a part of the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription. We only did that for the Rise of the Runelords deck.

-Lisa

Wait - this means I probably don't have a Curse deck either! *runs off*

Edit: Any chance of a list of what the items tie to the adventure path (as James wrote up for the Runelords deck)?

Forgive my ignorance, but why are these so great? I fail to see how having items on cards that can be lost or misplaced and just take up space is more convenient than just writing it down. The artwork is great, don't get me wrong, but I'm curious as to why people pay $10 for this sort of thing.

Forgive my ignorance, but why are these so great? I fail to see how having items on cards that can be lost or misplaced and just take up space is more convenient than just writing it down. The artwork is great, don't get me wrong, but I'm curious as to why people pay $10 for this sort of thing.

Here is an example. In the not too distant future my party will experience a catastrophic even that will leave them reeling and equipment-less. After scavenging around I will hand out an unopened item pack to each. They can then roll each item as a random magic item. They can trade or keep them but that's all they get for a while - good luck!

To answer questions about the art, Vincent wanted a break from item cards, and we're happy to have him doing covers for us. Chuck Lukacs brought his unique vision to this set, and thereafter the art is being handled by another artist, Christophe Swal (who has done a fair amount of other work for us as well).

Thanks for picking up GameMastery Item Cards! We really appreciate your feedback.

Edit: Any chance of a list of what the items tie to the adventure path (as James wrote up for the Runelords deck)?

I'll mention it to James and the boys.

I've been a long time fan of the Game Mastery Item Cards - I have literally hundreds and hundreds of them. When I opened the Second Darkness deck it was the first time I had the "WTF is this?" reaction to the product. These cards are just NOT as good as previous editions.

The images are more cartoon-y, less crisp, "puffy" and every other negative thing people have posted about them in the review.

If this represents the future of Item Cards then count me out!

I've been a long time fan of the Game Mastery Item Cards - I have literally hundreds and hundreds of them. When I opened the Second Darkness deck it was the first time I had the "WTF is this?" reaction to the product. These cards are just NOT as good as previous editions.

The images are more cartoon-y, less crisp, "puffy" and every other negative thing people have posted about them in the review.

If this represents the future of Item Cards then count me out!

I noticed a few people saying the art isn't very good on these cards. Any chance we could get some sort of gallery so we can decide for ourselves what the quality of the artwork is like?

EDIT: Nevermind. If they are the same as Wondrous Treasure, that's ok.

Yeah, those are nice

Is there a list to itemize which item cards were intended for use with which treasure in Second Darkness? I'm currently running SD, but we are still in adventure 1, and while I've skimmed through the upcoming books, I haven't read all the treasure from each one yet. I'd hate to to give out a crossbow card in adventure 1, only to realize that there is a really cool crossbow in adventure 5 that was waiting for my PCs that the art was intended for! Thanks for the help!