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Osirion (President, Jon Brazer Enterprises)

Yeah!!!


This book is gonna rock!!! (if it is 3.5)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Tales Subscriber)

Gonna rock in any edition - can't beat the lore!!!

(Pathfinder Charter Superscriber)

Is SKR writing this?


I vote for SKR! He's done well thus far!

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

tbug wrote:
Is SKR writing this?

Yup!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

SWEET!!!

Paizo Employee (Customer Service Happiness-Inducement Imp)

Rauol_Duke wrote:
SWEET!!!

Sweet?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

SKR? Who is that?


Sean K. Reynolds, author of the deity-write ups in PF, who also did the Core Believes articles in Dragon.
He has a long history as a game designer and was one of the designers of 3rd edition...

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Ahhhh! Ok. That is indeed a good thing!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Cosmo wrote:
Rauol_Duke wrote:
SWEET!!!
Sweet?

No. Sweet

Paizo Employee (Customer Service Happiness-Inducement Imp)

Absinth wrote:

Sean K. Reynolds, author of the deity-write ups in PF, who also did the Core Believes articles in Dragon.

He has a long history as a game designer and was one of the designers of 3rd edition...

And his writing is Teh SWEET.

;)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Awesome.


Paizo is definitely the ultimate "by gamers for gamers" company. Paizo actually listens and delivers the products their customers ask for. I can think of a few "inc's" that could learn a lot from this example. I can't wait to get a copy.


If this is the book I think it is, then yes, I'm writing it.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
If this is the book I think it is, then yes, I'm writing it.

It is indeed that book! :)

(Pathfinder Charter Superscriber)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
If this is the book I think it is, then yes, I'm writing it.

I'm delighted.

(Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

This is the Chronicles book I have been wishing for.

The thought of it being a 4th edition product makes me nauseus. I really hope Paizo stays 3.5.

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Man do they listen this was the book i listed i wanted right after i read the first god discription in Pathfinders

Qadira (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Looks good.

I was wondering if all the races use the same gods, or is there the usual selection of gods for non-humans and these gods are directed towards humans?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Mistwalker wrote:
I was wondering if all the races use the same gods, or is there the usual selection of gods for non-humans and these gods are directed towards humans?

I can't find it on the blog right now, my search-fu is weak today, but I did copy it when it was posted and here's the long and short of what Dr. Jacobs said about the other races and gods:

Spoiler:
Here's the way I see the "favored" deities of the core races working out.
ELVES
Desna, Calistria, Nethys
DWARVES
Torag, Abadar, Irori
GNOMES
Shelyn, Nethys, Gozreh
HALFLINGS
Desna, Erastil, Pharasma
HALF ELVES
Cayden Cailean, Calistria, Sarenrae
HALF ORCS
Gorum, Rovagug, Torag
TIEFLINGS
Calistria, Lamashtu, Asmodeus
AASIMAR
Iomedae, Sarenrae, Shelyn
GOBLINS
Lamashtu, that old stump that looks sort of like a monster face, their current chieftain
Of coruse, there are also certainly lots of minor gods (some of whom, like Minderhal and Droskar, we've mentioned—some of whom, like Cyth-V'sug and Zyphus we have not) who are far more specialized and worshiped only by certain types of people. We'll get to those when we get to them, though.

maybe someone else can find the link...

<bows head in shame>


A definite buy.


I just wish it was coming out next week, not October, geez!!! Why do far away?

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

Will the articles on Desna, Lamashthu, and any others that arise between now and the printing of Gods and Magic be rehashed?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
If this is the book I think it is, then yes, I'm writing it.

I hope it's as good as your Greyhawk write-ups in Dragon. Although I'm sad that Julia Martin and Eric Boyd isn't writing it. I really love Faiths and Avatars ala 2nd edition.


Another vote for SKR! This product is gonna rock!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Will this book have the Gods Illustrated?
(for their Avatars, etc.)
....and just because Illustrations of Gods are cool!

-JM


Either that, or something like the FR worldbook, where they had illustrations of the clerics in their typical dress...though avatars would be much cooler, and more worthy of something written by SKR.


I'd love to see clerical vestments and things like that in a "god" book. The number of times you run into a cleric of a given god as compared to an avatar or aspect would seem to indicate that knowing more about the clergy would be better than knowing more about the god, per se.

That having been said, yeah, pictures of the gods, at least how the clergy most commonly conceptualizes them, would be cool.

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

Oh yes, this is a must have. So glad I'll be getting dead tree and pdf


JM wrote:

Will this book have the Gods Illustrated?

(for their Avatars, etc.)
....and just because Illustrations of Gods are cool!

-JM

Paizo is strangely silent on this...

I really hope the gods will be illustrated/depicted – Gods have been depicted (in drawings, paintings, carvings, sculptures, etc.) throughout time.

So hey guys (Paizo crew) what do-ya-say? - should we expect the gods to be illustrated?


gig-gilf wrote:
Paizo is strangely silent on this...

Paizo is away at the Origins game convention, but I imagine, given how the Beliefs articles are worked up, we are likely to get depictions of gods. I know I would certainly like clerical representations myself as well.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Hi everyone! This thread slipped a little under my radar there for a bit... sorry about that!

ANYway... yes. We'll have illustrations of all 20 of our core deities in this book. Each of these 20 deities will have a 2 page entry, similar in style to the new monsters we've done in the Pathfinder Bestiary. The main difference is, of course, that the gods don't have huge stat blocks; their "stat blocks" will be relatively short and contain info like domains, areas of concern, favored weapons, holy days, etc. The rest is gonna be flavor and crunch; I believe we're going to aim to have a new spell for each deity for clerics, for example. Then, in the later third of the book, we'll have lots of symbols and other illustrations relating to various lesser faiths and magic spells and items tied to the world's religions.

But the cornerstone of the book will indeed be those 20 full-body illustrations of the core 20 deities. Some of them have already started coming in and they look neat!

Representations of clerics of the gods will continue to appear in Pathfinder's Adventure Paths and other products, but this book is as much about the gods themselves as their worshipers. (And of course, in most cases... how the god dresses more or less translates into how the faithful dress. Except in cases like Rovagug, who's a big spider tentacle mouth monster who doesn't wear clothes at all...)

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting Subscriber)

James Jacobs wrote:
ANYway... yes. We'll have illustrations of all 20 of our core deities in this book. Each of these 20 deities will have a 2 page entry, similar in style to the new monsters we've done in the Pathfinder Bestiary. The main difference is, of course, that the gods don't have huge stat blocks; their "stat blocks" will be relatively short and contain info like domains, areas of concern, favored weapons, holy days, etc. The rest is gonna be flavor and crunch; I believe we're going to aim to have a new spell for each deity for clerics, for example. Then, in the later third of the book, we'll have lots of symbols and other illustrations relating to various lesser faiths and magic spells and items tied to the world's religions.

So... It will be what Deities and Demigods should have been instead of a book filled with the stats of really high level NPCs... Great! ;-)


James Jacobs wrote:
(And of course, in most cases... how the god dresses more or less translates into how the faithful dress. Except in cases like Rovagug, who's a big spider tentacle mouth monster who doesn't wear clothes at all...)

ALL HAIL ROVAGUG!

I hope there's some discussion of non-evil worshippers of evil gods, what with the 3.x "one-step" rule.


jakoov wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
ANYway... yes. We'll have illustrations of all 20 of our core deities in this book. Each of these 20 deities will have a 2 page entry, similar in style to the new monsters we've done in the Pathfinder Bestiary.

Will it be similar in format to the entries in "Rise of the Runelords" and "Crimson Throne". Specifically; will it include "allies of../summon monster" tables and planar ally info?

(I ask because our cleric is looking for a pet and we want to know which animal his diety (Sarenrae) would approve of.)

thanks

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Wow, WAR outdid himself with the cover to this! Absolutely amazing!
On a side note, are there any feats or prestige classes in this book?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)


Yes, the cover art for this book is the best of all I have seen for Pathfinder so far. More art like this! All the other art is good too, but there is something about this cover that beats all the rest easily.


Rauol_Duke wrote:
wow...

Wow . . .

Is that Rovagug?

Osirion (President, Jon Brazer Enterprises)

Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
Rauol_Duke wrote:
wow...

Wow . . .

Is that Rovagug?

James Jacobs wrote:
Except in cases like Rovagug, who's a big spider tentacle mouth monster who doesn't wear clothes at all...)

My guess would be, "From James' description, yes it is."

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
Rauol_Duke wrote:
wow...

Wow . . .

Is that Rovagug?

Sarenrae vs. Rovagug. Check today's blog.


Now that the art is up on the blog, will we be able to see the final cover? Or is that still being worked on?

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

maybe they'll have a little title in the corner and then the author's credit in the other blank space. This cover is too tremendous to cover.

amazing!

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Modules Subscriber)

WOW... or rather WAR!

that is an amazing piece...

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

I woke up that morning, and I thought "damn, Gods & Magic should have a badass cover art by Wayne Reynolds."

Then I clicked on the blog entry and saw my dreams fulfilled. :)


I NEED IT NOW!!!!!

pretty please :)


Shadowborn wrote:
Either that, or something like the FR worldbook, where they had illustrations of the clerics in their typical dress...though avatars would be much cooler, and more worthy of something written by SKR.

why not both? images of the gods' Avatars AND on how their clerics dress!!! we clerics need some ideas to make it better :D

James Jacobs wrote:
Representations of clerics of the gods will continue to appear in Pathfinder's Adventure Paths and other products, but this book is as much about the gods themselves as their worshipers. (And of course, in most cases... how the god dresses more or less translates into how the faithful dress. Except in cases like Rovagug, who's a big spider tentacle mouth monster who doesn't wear clothes at all...)

ok a bit sad situation, je but we work with what we get :D

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