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I remember very much enjoying the use of Ravenloft's Tarokka deck as a player, so I'm looking forward to this.


You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.

Qadira (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

*Add this new thing to the already very long list of "can't wait to have" things.*

A new product :) Yesterday night, it was PF4 download, this time, you add this! It's Christmas every day!

And this time, it's comming soon, only a couple months to wait :D


Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.

Ok, show some. :)

Really, perhaps show one of the card's art in a blog post or something. This would be great to see.


Is this anything like the Three Dragon Ante Character Creation Article featured in one of the Dragons?


Nice! I'm thinking of running an oracle telepath in the second adv path. This will be a cool accessory!

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Jub-Jub wrote:
Is this anything like the Three Dragon Ante Character Creation Article featured in one of the Dragons?

Not really... it's more like the way the Taroka deck was used in Ravenloft.


James Jacobs wrote:
Jub-Jub wrote:
Is this anything like the Three Dragon Ante Character Creation Article featured in one of the Dragons?
Not really... it's more like the way the Taroka deck was used in Ravenloft.

Ooooh, I was still young and innocent when the Taroka deck was published at that time for Ravenloft, so I must have this one before it becomes out of print too...

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

WelbyBumpus wrote:
Really, perhaps show one of the card's art in a blog post or something. This would be great to see.

You can bet we'll be doing that soon!

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

I'll definately get this.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

It does really look as an awesome accessory.

Does it come with some quick rules for divinations, fortune-telling, character-generation (such as those already published in a Dragon issue)?

If not, is it adaptable for such a use?

EDIT: of course it comes packed with everything I asked for. Silly me for posting before looking at the product page. D'OH!


I'm on this. Just have to wait for the Web Team to get that old Pathfinder Chronicles Subscription option going!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Battles Case Subscriber)

WelbyBumpus wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.

Ok, show some. :)

Really, perhaps show one of the card's art in a blog post or something. This would be great to see.

Strongly seconded! I can't wait to see this.


you're making it VERY difficult for me not to buy all the pathfinder 'fluff' stuff-so fun!


Ebolav wrote:
you're making it VERY difficult for me not to buy all the pathfinder 'fluff' stuff-so fun!

We are doing everything we can to break down your resistance. ;)


Show us! Show us some art! *drools*

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

I think I may have to pick this up. It looks nifty, and I may be able to convert the use over for Ravenloft (as I never owned an actual Taroka deck for that setting).


Huzzah!! I recall asking about such a product, and now there is one.

I think this is one of the best ideas I've ever seen, and I was expecting a mere "in game" crunch blurb only in some upcoming Pathfinder product. To think, an actual deck to fondle and play with. I'd almost like to get a second deck just to mount on backing, laminate, and display like a poster.


Lilith wrote:
Show us! Show us some art! *drools*

Check the Paizo Daily Blog this evening. :-)


WelbyBumpus wrote:
Really, perhaps show one of the card's art in a blog post or something. This would be great to see.

Check out tonight's Daily Blog post. :-)

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

I believe Josh really, really thinks you should check out the Paizo Blog later tonight.

Qadira (Paizo Superscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
I believe Josh really, really thinks you should check out the Paizo Blog later tonight.

I'm unclear on your intent here. Are you suggesting should we check out the blog later tonight?


Void_Eagle wrote:
I'm unclear on your intent here. Are you suggesting should we check out the blog later tonight?

Speaking unofficially here, as a member of R&D, I think that's Josh's idea. :)

(Former Titanic Games Lead Designer)

DarkArt wrote:
To think, an actual deck to fondle...

As one of the Harrow deck's designers, I just need to say: Ick. I mean, "Them Ogres Ain't Right!"-level ick.

Still, I'd say you may need to buy ten copies of Harrow for these purposes. I'm just saying.

Mike

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Mike McArtor wrote:
Void_Eagle wrote:
I'm unclear on your intent here. Are you suggesting should we check out the blog later tonight?
Speaking unofficially here, as a member of R&D, I think that's Josh's idea. :)

Don't listen to them! It is a trick! They want us to spend even more money at Paizo! Don't listen, don't look, and don't think about clicking on that link! ~My hand automatically goes to the link and clicks on it~ Traitor! ~beats my hand for doing what I told it not to do~ Take that!


Mike McArtor wrote:
Speaking unofficially here, as a member of R&D, I think that's Josh's idea. :)

Check out tonight's Daily Blog post. :-)

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Having just now read it, I must say: Check out tonight's Paizo Blog post.

This means you, #17!


Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.

Will the cards have rules text on them, like the Three Dragon Ante cards? I hope not; that kinda ruined those cards for me, as it would have been fun to see what other kinds of games/divnation tools people could have created with the Three Dragon Ante cards. WOTC had to splat text all over 'em, and IMHO, spoiled them. I'm very much looking forward to this product, though.

(Former Titanic Games Lead Designer)

Goroxx wrote:
Will the cards have rules text on them, like the Three Dragon Ante cards?

Dude, I am not going to go down in history as the guy who ruined 54 pieces of Kyle Hunter art. So, heck no.

Mike

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber)

Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.

I'd wager that depends on whether one likes Kyle Hunter's art... which I have to say I generally don't. A shame really, sounded like a cool thing to get.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

After reading the blog, I am really, really excited about this product. I'm also really excited about Curse of the Crimson Throne. I think this is definitely on the list to pick up.


GentleGiant wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.
I'd wager that depends on whether one likes Kyle Hunter's art... which I have to say I generally don't. A shame really, sounded like a cool thing to get.

Yes, well, that's true.

I have seen about 30 of the images so far, though, and I will say that I think Kyle will win a lot of converts with this set. He's been going overboard with the made-up occult imagery on all of the cards (similar to a tarot deck), and it's really a sight to see.


I fondly remember using the card rules in Touch of Death , that gaming session still stands out because my players just loved the novelty of the experience. If the Harrow deck does something similiar I just might introduce it.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

Are there 54 cards or 60 cards?
Blog says 54 but the produkt page says 60...

No matter what, I'm eagerly awaiting the deck!

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32)

Franz Lunzer wrote:

Are there 54 cards or 60 cards?

Blog says 54 but the produkt page says 60...

No matter what, I'm eagerly awaiting the deck!

There are 54 cards, with an extra six picture cards featuring the lady iconics in swimwear, posing mightly sexily.

Spoiler:
That is a lie. Though, maybe if I believe enough in it...

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32)

Mike Selinker wrote:

Dude, I am not going to go down in history as the guy who ruined 54 pieces of Kyle Hunter art. So, heck no.

Mike

Who the hell is this guy? ^_^

Nice to meet you, sir!

(Former Titanic Games Lead Designer)

Sect wrote:

Who the hell is this guy? ^_^

Nice to meet you, sir!

Nice to meet you too. I'm the brand manager and lead R&D guy for Titanic, Paizo's board and card game line. And I've done a few other things besides. I was one of the creative directors on 3rd Edition Dungeons & Dragons, for example.

As to the number of cards question, there are 54 divination cards and 6 cards that help you with your divination results.

Mike


Mike Selinker wrote:


Dude, I am not going to go down in history as the guy who ruined 54 pieces of Kyle Hunter art. So, heck no.

Mike

Excellent news! Thanks for the quick response, too. Another reason for me to stay a loyal Paizo customer.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Jub-Jub wrote:
Is this anything like the Three Dragon Ante Character Creation Article featured in one of the Dragons?

I "decked out" a bunch of NPCs and one PC last night using the system from that issue. One of the best articles in Paizo's run on Dragon, IMO. It would be really, REALLY awesome to have a char-gen writeup article in the back of a Pathfinder or as a blog post.

Really.


I sincerely hope this will be more in line with the Tarokka Deck Arthaus made for Ravenloft when they had the license than Three Dragon Ante which I still have not bought as it looks so crappy. Although if I can use it like a Tarot deck that will be an added bonus.Even though a part of me is not really hoping for that.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

FenrysStar wrote:
I sincerely hope this will be more in line with the Tarokka Deck Arthaus made for Ravenloft when they had the license than Three Dragon Ante which I still have not bought as it looks so crappy. Although if I can use it like a Tarot deck that will be an added bonus.Even though a part of me is not really hoping for that.

It will be. The Tarokka Deck is very much an inspiration for Harrow, as are real-world Tarot decks.


Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.

You're such a tease!

Can we expect this to be the Anthology Card Game? That would be way beyond awesome.


Oh: Will we see some of these pictures. Maybe on the blog? If so, you should have said.

:P

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32)

WelbyBumpus wrote:
I remember very much enjoying the use of Ravenloft's Tarokka deck as a player, so I'm looking forward to this.

I actually had 2 Tarokka Decks. One pre-sorted to the reading I wanted for the PC's and one for them to shuffle as they saw fit. They would shuffle theirs and then I would do the old switcheroo under the table so that they got the set up deck. Worked like a charm =)

(Former Titanic Games Lead Designer)

KaeYoss wrote:
Can we expect this to be the Anthology Card Game? That would be way beyond awesome.

I think that's a fascinating question. It won't carry that brand mark, but let's just say we don't intend to limit this thing to just two cool applications.

Mike


Will this product be required to play through the second adventure path?

--
Migar

(Former Titanic Games Lead Designer)

MigarFrobert wrote:
Will this product be required to play through the second adventure path?

We will have rules for playing without the published deck in Pathfinder #7. You may find it quite a bit less flavorful, but it can be done.

Also, there's nothing that limits the use of the deck to Pathfinder #7-12, or to campaigns set in the Pathfinder universe. As long as you're playing a fairly standard medieval fantasy RPG, you can use the Harrow deck in it. Most of the deck's Varisia-specific content will be found in the Pathfinder books, though.

Mike


Since I love Kyle's artwork I think I'll have to get this.

[edit: questions answered]

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting Subscriber)

What are the 6 extra cards? 6 abilities x 9 alignments, but the listing above says "60 card deck". Just rule cards or are they actually part of the deck?

Edit: Never mind. Didn't realize on the product page it only listed the first few messages. Answer duly noted above. :)


GentleGiant wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
You should see some of the art. My god this thing is beautiful.
I'd wager that depends on whether one likes Kyle Hunter's art... which I have to say I generally don't. A shame really, sounded like a cool thing to get.

I have to agree with GentleGiant here. I have checked out the art of Mr. Hunter, to see what to expect, and it is just not my cup of tea. I am hoping I can get the mechanics/card type/rules for a Harrow Deck without Mr. Hunter's art. I would prefer to make my own deck, to be honest.

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