Might I suggest a Pathfinder Chronicles Lite subscription? A subscription that has all the Pathfinder Chronicles products, minus the card decks? The gamemaster cards do look cool, but I don't think I will be using them. I still want to enjoy all the flavorful goodness of the other products and would happily subscribe for them.

Just a suggestion.

I second the "Pathfinder Lite" motion.

Craig

I a not sure if you are aware of this thread:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/pathfinder/pathfinderChroniclesProduct s/chroniclesSubscriptionWillIncludeWhat

You will probably find some answers here.

I can't get the link to work, but I'll add my voice to the "Cronicles lite" desire. I'm really not so interested in the Harrow deck, but I want the other stuff.

ASEO out

For what it's worth, Paizo has announced that the item cards are off of the Pathfinder subscriptions. The Harrow cards are tied pretty strongly to the Crimson Throne adventure path though, and I think the argument that they are part of that product is much stronger.

I can't get the link to work, but I'll add my voice to the "Cronicles lite" desire. I'm really not so interested in the Harrow deck, but I want the other stuff.

ASEO out

ASEO wrote:

I can't get the link to work, but I'll add my voice to the "Cronicles lite" desire. I'm really not so interested in the Harrow deck, but I want the other stuff.

ASEO out

The link did not work because there is a space between the "t" and the "s" in "Products". If you delete that before going on, that will work.

I wanted to start subscribing, but I also wanted to get the things that came before that. When I pick up the subscription, does it go:
Harrow Deck -> Classic Monsters -> Gazetteer -> etc.? Or what? Thanks in advance!

Stephen

When you subscribe, it'll start with whatever is currently out which could be the Classic Monster revisited book or it might start with the next item, that I'm not sure.

I subscribed when only the Burnt Offerings item deck was out & had the option of either starting with those (which meant I got it) or to start with Monsters.

I wanted to start subscribing, but I also wanted to get the things that came before that. When I pick up the subscription, does it go:
Harrow Deck -> Classic Monsters -> Gazetteer -> etc.? Or what? Thanks in advance!

WOnce the Gazetteer ships—which may be later this week.

Vic Wertz wrote:

WOnce the Gazetteer ships—which may be later this week.

Eeeeee! I am so excited about this. You guys are breaking my bank, but it's worth it. Will this reeeally be out later this week?

Alright, so I just started my subscription with the Gazeteer, now if I buy previous books of the subscription will I be able to get the pdfs of those?

Alright, so I just started my subscription with the Gazeteer, now if I buy previous books of the subscription will I be able to get the pdfs of those?

-Lisa

That's reasonable. Thanks for the answer.

So not to be contrary, but I'm wondering what the benefit of subscribing to this (or the Companion series) is.

- It's list price plus shipping with the subscription, when I can get it from Amazon for a good discount and usually free shipping.
- Even if I wait and buy from my FLGS at full price I don't pay shipping.
- Buying via Amazon/FLGS I can then pick and choose and avoid products I don't want (like the cards).
- Buying onesie-twosie I'm sure to skip some products just out of not staying on the ball with it, which equates to lost revenue to you.

Basically the upsides of me subscribing are "convenience" and "the PDF"? Not worth $5-$10 or more per product to me (the Amazon discount + your shipping). I think you'd get a lot more subscriptions if you discounted the other lines 30% like with the APs themselves. Subscription revenue is the best kind of revenue to have. I know I'd swap over from buying onesie-twosie for a 30% discount and think a lot of others would too.

Basically the upsides of me subscribing are "convenience" and "the PDF"? Not worth $5-$10 or more per product to me (the Amazon discount + your shipping). I think you'd get a lot more subscriptions if you discounted the other lines 30% like with the APs themselves. Subscription revenue is the best kind of revenue to have. I know I'd swap over from buying onesie-twosie for a 30% discount and think a lot of others would too.

An additional $10 a pop for the same content, just in PDF? Enjoy.

An additional $10 a pop for the same content, just in PDF? Enjoy.

Try running the numbers again. I pay the same price as I would at my FLGS and I get a pdf. That's a good deal in my book (or on my books, as the case may be). Is it the OMG World's BEST DEAL!!1!one!! buy right now!?!?! Probably not, but I'm happy with my purchase.

So not to be contrary, but I'm wondering what the benefit of subscribing to this (or the Companion series) is.

- It's list price plus shipping with the subscription, when I can get it from Amazon for a good discount and usually free shipping.
- Even if I wait and buy from my FLGS at full price I don't pay shipping.
- Buying via Amazon/FLGS I can then pick and choose and avoid products I don't want (like the cards).
- Buying onesie-twosie I'm sure to skip some products just out of not staying on the ball with it, which equates to lost revenue to you.

Basically the upsides of me subscribing are "convenience" and "the PDF"? Not worth $5-$10 or more per product to me (the Amazon discount + your shipping). I think you'd get a lot more subscriptions if you discounted the other lines 30% like with the APs themselves. Subscription revenue is the best kind of revenue to have. I know I'd swap over from buying onesie-twosie for a 30% discount and think a lot of others would too.

I just wanted to point out that because you are a Pathfinder subscriber, you actually would get 15% off on any other subscriptions that you take because you would have the Pathfinder Advantage. That, and you would get the free PDFs.

-Lisa

I think you'd get a lot more subscriptions if you discounted the other lines 30% like with the APs themselves.

Ernest:

I just wanted to point out that because you are a Pathfinder subscriber, you actually would get 15% off on any other subscriptions that you take because you would have the Pathfinder Advantage. That, and you would get the free PDFs.

-Lisa

Ernest Mueller wrote:

An additional $10 a pop for the same content, just in PDF? Enjoy.

I do, but then again, I'm also not taking some absurd scenario to calculate the cost ($10 is b%*!!@&@). The last Pathfinder volume I received was $13.99. Amazon has it for $14.97. Last time I checked, shipping was < $10. Plus I get an additional discount on my other subscriptions as a Pathfinder charter subscriber.

Try running the numbers again. I pay the same price as I would at my FLGS and I get a pdf. That's a good deal in my book (or on my books, as the case may be). Is it the OMG World's BEST DEAL!!1!one!! buy right now!?!?! Probably not, but I'm happy with my purchase.

Pathfinder Chronicles: Gazetteer. $17.99 list, $12.23 Amazon.
Guide to Korvosa: exact same.
Classic Monsters Revisited: exact same.
$5.76 cost difference.

Lowest cost shipping, USPS 4-8 day to Austin, TX - $5.08.

$5.08 + $5.76 = $10.84. Boy, that's suspiciously close to $10. The 15% discount Lisa mentioned (and I see it now when I add individual items to my cart- when you add the subscription it just says "list price", which is probably bad marketing) takes it down to $8, which is definitely better.

I love Paizo too dude, but don't go so overboard in "defending" them that you decide to ignore facts. Your exclamation mark key will thank you.

Ernest Mueller wrote:

I think you'd get a lot more subscriptions if you discounted the other lines 30% like with the APs themselves.

We have to be careful about the number of products that we offer subscriber discounts on—if we discounted *everything* below list price, we'd risk alienating retailers. That's why we provide other perks like free PDFs and the ability to combine shipments of multiple subscriptions to save on shipping (and in the future, you'll be able to combine non-subscription and subscription items as well). And, as Lisa pointed out, Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers get the Pathfinder Advantage discount of 15% off MSRP on most items, including other subscription items.

I love Paizo too dude, but don't go so overboard in "defending" them that you decide to ignore facts. Your exclamation mark key will thank you.

Yeah, I ran the numbers right the first time.

Pathfinder Chronicles: Gazetteer. $17.99 list, $12.23 Amazon.
Guide to Korvosa: exact same.
Classic Monsters Revisited: exact same.
$5.76 cost difference.

Lowest cost shipping, USPS 4-8 day to Austin, TX - $5.08.

$5.08 + $5.76 = $10.84. Boy, that's suspiciously close to $10. The 15% discount Lisa mentioned (and I see it now when I add individual items to my cart- when you add the subscription it just says "list price", which is probably bad marketing) takes it down to $8, which is definitely better.

You're not including the shipping cost of the Amazon purchase (which was around $5 when I just ran it, total price was just over $17). Now if you factor in the combined shipping with your Pathfinder subscriptions (which shouldn't raise your shipping cost much), you're looking at about the same price as the Amazon purchase, maybe a little less. And you get the free PDF also. So to me, yeah it makes a lot of sense.

Anyway, I'm not contesting that it's worth it to some people. I am contesting that it's compelling enough to get the people who would otherwise be interested - like myself, a Pathfinder subscriber, enthusiastic about Pathfinder RPG, etc - to do it. I'm not b#!~%ing, I'm suggesting to them that they have a bunch of demand right under the surface that could be converted to tasty tasty subscriptions if it made sense to the average person.

<====Lives in China. No FLGS. Amazon shipping no better, usually worse.

I'm really starting to question whether the subscription is worth it. The free PDF and 15 percent off other orders really doesn't add up for me. If you're willing to be patient, you can order multiple items from Amazon at a significant cost savings. I like supporting Paizo, but I'd prefer it if they could waive the shipping cost or not charge me cover price for each issue. I know it's not an apples to apples comparison per se, but Pathfinder is the only subscription I have that doesn't offer me some kind of savings off the cover price.

I'm really starting to question whether the subscription is worth it. The free PDF and 15 percent off other orders really doesn't add up for me. If you're willing to be patient, you can order multiple items from Amazon at a significant cost savings. I like supporting Paizo, but I'd prefer it if they could waive the shipping cost or not charge me cover price for each issue. I know it's not an apples to apples comparison per se, but Pathfinder is the only subscription I have that doesn't offer me some kind of savings off the cover price.

Every time I try to add a new thread, it gets eaten, so I'll ask my question over here and see if it goes through ....

If I subscribe to the Chronicles beginning with the Guide to Absolom and choose Hold for Monthly Shipment, will the Guide and the Second Darkness Map Folio both ship at the end of the month with my AP subscription?

I would also put in for a Lite subscription, although I would ask that it only contain "rules" releases instead of "rules and setting" releases. I have my own setting already.

Is this subscription still supposed to be one book a month?

Currently there are two books listed for October and three for November. Is this just to to publication dates slipping?

Is this subscription still supposed to be one book a month?

Currently there are two books listed for October and three for November. Is this just to to publication dates slipping?

But yes, this particular situation for October and November is due mainly to slipped schedules.