Just want to make sure I have this correct . . . for the $41 dollars I get the entire 110 card set, right?

Just want to make sure I have this correct . . . for the $41 dollars I get the entire 110 card set, right?

If you're starting from scratch, get a boost to get a bunch of cards, then buy/trade to get the ones you're missing. There a guy named Derek who posts on these board who sells and trades a lot (he helped me complete both my HH and RW sets - thanks Derek!). Here's his website:

http://itemcards.blogspot.com

There are also a couple of trade threads here at Paizo. They're a little slow these days but I had good luck there in the past. Finally, there is at least one web-store selling individual cards for around a buck. Here is their website:

http://store.usacomicbooks.com/pazio.html

Last but not least, there are 5 or 6 cards that are almost impossible to find - studded leather, tower shield, spiked chain, warhammer, and one of the staves, IIRC. Good luck on those.

Hope this helps,
Mosaic

Wow, you'd think studded leather would have been one of the most commonly printed cards...

Hey, what are you guys using the foil cards for?
I already have a few and when I give these out my players are going "Ahhh!" and are a little disappointed when I tell them that these are in no way special or different from the other cards.
And I agree with my players that these should be more special than the items on the normal cards.
I thought about representing artifacts with these foil cards, but I have about twenty of these and I'll wrack my campaign when I'm beginning to issue artifacts regulary...:)

So, anybody came up with a nice idea?

Not all magic items glow to normal sight. Maybe the foil cards are the glowy ones.

Foils will be magic item versions of that item IMC, and even non-foils, if I don't happen to have a foil to represent.

Foils will be magic item versions of that item IMC, and even non-foils, if I don't happen to have a foil to represent.

Foils will be magic item versions of that item IMC, and even non-foils, if I don't happen to have a foil to represent.

Now I'm thinking artifacts or maybe intelligent items. [I know, I know ... intelligent potions!?!]

Yes, intelligent items may be an option too! Cool idea! Thanks!
Well, what had the Paizo people in mind when they designed the foiled cards in the first place?
Is it only created as a collector's goodie?

Use the foils for cursed items.

Well, I'd suspect that most potions are going to be magic, Varl. Only something like 1-in-11 potions card will be foils.

Chris Mortika wrote:

Well, I'd suspect that most potions are going to be magic, Varl. Only something like 1-in-11 potions card will be foils.

Good point, Chris. I like bubbagump's idea on using them as cursed items. Problem with that is after the first foil you hand a player, they'll automatically will know they've just found a cursed item.

Here's how I pull it off: I have a big box full of item cards that I bring to the game. I put the cards I think will likely be acquired in the front of the box. When the players find an item, I reach in the box and find the appropriate card and hand it to the player. If you don't make a big deal about deliberately searching for a foil card, they won't catch on that there's something special about it. By this method, they have no reason to think you're looking for a foil - it just happens to be at the front of the box.

Well, what had the Paizo people in mind when they designed the foiled cards in the first place?
Is it only created as a collector's goodie?

That said, what I personally use them for is the more expensive and impressive magic items. Every player as they rise in levels has one or two cool items that the foils are perfect to represent. And it makes the player feel like they have something cool.

-Lisa

I just had the idea to represent weapons of legacy with foiled cards.

Here's how I pull it off: I have a big box full of item cards that I bring to the game. I put the cards I think will likely be acquired in the front of the box. When the players find an item, I reach in the box and find the appropriate card and hand it to the player. If you don't make a big deal about deliberately searching for a foil card, they won't catch on that there's something special about it. By this method, they have no reason to think you're looking for a foil - it just happens to be at the front of the box.

There's very little they haven't seen or heard of (and they don't even own any books!), so while shuffling cards around might work, I think I'll need to be much more savvy myself.

A Villainous Sidekick wrote:

Just want to make sure I have this correct . . . for the $41 dollars I get the entire 110 card set, right?

Sorry. You get 10 packs of 11 random cards - 1 armor, 2 weapons, 2 potions, 1 scroll, 1 wand, 1 ring or rod/staff, 2 wonderous items, and 1 foil that can be any of the above. You WILL NOT get a complete set of cards as there will be repeats of several. And actually, the "random" of Hero's Hoard was pretty uneven so theres a bunch of stuff you won't get and others you'll get triples of. All cool cards that you can find a way to use when role-playing, but not the best way to get a complete set.

If you're starting from scratch, get a boost to get a bunch of cards, then buy/trade to get the ones you're missing. There a guy named Derek who posts on these board who sells and trades a lot (he helped me complete both my HH and RW sets - thanks Derek!). Here's his website:

http://itemcards.blogspot.com

There are also a couple of trade threads here at Paizo. They're a little slow these days but I had good luck there in the past. Finally, there is at least one web-store selling individual cards for around a buck. Here is their website:

http://store.usacomicbooks.com/pazio.html

Last but not least, there are 5 or 6 cards that are almost impossible to find - studded leather, tower shield, spiked chain, warhammer, and one of the staves, IIRC. Good luck on those.

Hope this helps,
Mosaic

Out of these I just got all of them except the Tower Shield

A way to represent magical items is

get some clear deck protector sleeves
get some clear pearl spray paint, like Tamiya pearl clear
spray the sleeve so it "shimmers"
then insert card into sleeve

ala magic item

Hey, what are you guys using the foil cards for?
I already have a few and when I give these out my players are going "Ahhh!" and are a little disappointed when I tell them that these are in no way special or different from the other cards.
And I agree with my players that these should be more special than the items on the normal cards.
I thought about representing artifacts with these foil cards, but I have about twenty of these and I'll wrack my campaign when I'm beginning to issue artifacts regulary...:)

So, anybody came up with a nice idea?

I was thinking the foil cards don't have to be artifacts but could be more interesting than just a +1 longsword. I was thinking these could be items of legend- though not necessarily artifacts. For example the foil longsword is the +1 Longsword used by Casmius, a legendary hero who outwitted a great sphinx that was terrorizing a village. Or you can add some more uncommon features to it without making it an artifact. I find ability enhancements are unusual for weapons, so perhaps a +1 longsword with +1 Dex. Certainly not artifact level, but better than a plain +1 longsword.

I think the key is to make these stand out with a story than in power.

[Well I just got my first pack as a free gift with an order. Great, now I will have to buy more... Your marketing trick worked Paizo :) darn it anyway.

I was thinking the foil cards don't have to be artifacts but could be more interesting than just a +1 longsword. I was thinking these could be items of legend- though not necessarily artifacts. For example the foil longsword is the +1 Longsword used by Casmius, a legendary hero who outwitted a great sphinx that was terrorizing a village. Or you can add some more uncommon features to it without making it an artifact. I find ability enhancements are unusual for weapons, so perhaps a +1 longsword with +1 Dex. Certainly not artifact level, but better than a plain +1 longsword.

I think the key is to make these stand out with a story than in power.

Krome wrote:

[Well I just got my first pack as a free gift with an order. Great, now I will have to buy more... Your marketing trick worked Paizo :) darn it anyway.

Me to, great trick, but my order was a box of item cards so a bonus pack was perfect for me.

So while I'm glad the booster method isn't being used anymore for the new sets, I do have to say it's still helping Paizo get my money. :-)

Seems like a decent idea, and I could find plenty of uses for them, but a bit pricy.

I wonder if Paizo know that some of these early cards use the logo of the German band Einstürzende Neubauten (see Wikipedia entry). As an example look at #04 Half-Plate or #48 Potion or #58 Ring or #65 Scroll. The symbol is distinctive, so I don't think it's a coincidence. I guess the artist is a fan. :)

I wonder if Paizo know that some of these early cards use the logo of the German band Einstürzende Neubauten (see Wikipedia entry). As an example look at #04 Half-Plate or #48 Potion or #58 Ring or #65 Scroll. The symbol is distinctive, so I don't think it's a coincidence. I guess the artist is a fan. :)

Will I be able to purchase a display box at Gen Con? (Assuming I'm there @ Thursday morning...)

Will I be able to purchase a display box at Gen Con? (Assuming I'm there @ Thursday morning...)

Kyle Baird wrote:

Will I be able to purchase a display box at Gen Con? (Assuming I'm there @ Thursday morning...)

We'll bring some!

For what it's worth, what I really want are more cards with the "human petroglyph" on them. It's a cult thing.. in game of course!

"That guy had another one of those rings with that stick figure on them.. They must be connected!"

Vic Wertz wrote:

Kyle Baird wrote:

Will I be able to purchase a display box at Gen Con? (Assuming I'm there @ Thursday morning...)

We'll bring some!

Thanks! (Didn't want to take your entire stash of them first thing in the morning on the first day!)

For what it's worth, what I really want are more cards with the "human petroglyph" on them. It's a cult thing.. in game of course!

"That guy had another one of those rings with that stick figure on them.. They must be connected!"

I use the ones with the human stick figure on them to represent healing spells or protective items (in the case of the ring with the stick figure).

Those are the ones I want more of too.