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I see that these minis are plastic... are they pre-painted as well, then? This would be a very cool little starter kit if that is the case, but if I've gotta spend more money on paints... it becomes less cool.
They're unpainted. Given that painting is a major part of Warhammer, I suspect that that will be true for a long, long while.
I see that these minis are plastic... are they pre-painted as well, then? This would be a very cool little starter kit if that is the case, but if I've gotta spend more money on paints... it becomes less cool.They're unpainted. Given that painting is a major part of Warhammer, I suspect that that will be true for a long, long while.
I kinda figured as much, but I don't think I've ever seen unpainted plastic figures before. Oh well. Thanks for the quick response, Vic!
Yeah, warhammer, in both flavors (fantasy and future) designed to be a four-fold hobby.
Assembly/Conversion
Painting
Battle
And Terrain Building
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As for this product, I haven't actually gotten mine (stupid payday being on the 15th) but I can say from what I know:
5th edition is a much better set of rules than the fourth edition. A real concentrated effort was made on making the rules easy and playable. In addition many of the silly or broken rules have been removed and all in all the game makes much more sense.
In regards to the armies, both forces represent excellent cores for their respective armies.
The Space Marines have approx 600 points in the box, and none of is filler. The only risk of buying marines is that their new rule book doesn't come out until next month.
The orks also receive a solid core for their force, although they only have about 500 points in the box. Hoever their rules are already current so there is less risk.
In fact, the armies are so solid that I ahve recommended to two co=workers who are considering playing that each get a box, and double their forces. The orks get a slightly better deal here since the elite elements in the marine force don't double as well as the orks.
All told, 5th edition is the first time in a long time I have recommended to anyone.
I kinda figured as much, but I don't think I've ever seen unpainted plastic figures before. Oh well. Thanks for the quick response, Vic!I see that these minis are plastic... are they pre-painted as well, then? This would be a very cool little starter kit if that is the case, but if I've gotta spend more money on paints... it becomes less cool.They're unpainted. Given that painting is a major part of Warhammer, I suspect that that will be true for a long, long while.
Fate, these are not the small, rubberish D&D figures you're used to. These are more along the lines of model cars and such - hard, injection-mold plastic that comes in pieces that you trim, glue and paint. This allows you to literally customize each and every figure with gear, poses, etc. They used to be primarily pewter figures (now, usually just your main characters and special figures), but they've developed their plastics to a high level of detail.
Warhammer isn't just a wargame, it's an entire hobby industry that includes modelling, sculpting, painting, etc. It is your decision just how deep to get into the hobby, but it can be very exacting. Prepainted figures just wouldn't do here, I am afraid.
I recommend that you visit the Games Workshop site to see for yourself. Select a game, select an army, then select any of the "Getting Started" or "Paint your X Figures" articles for more.
Does anyone know of any dedicated messageboards for warhammer 40k?
or
both dot-coms are both decent forums for 40k
also check out tsoalr dot com
Fate, these are not the small, rubberish D&D figures you're used to. These are more along the lines of model cars and such - hard, injection-mold plastic that comes in pieces that you trim, glue and paint. This allows you to literally customize each and every figure with gear, poses, etc. They used to be primarily pewter figures (now, usually just your main characters and special figures), but they've developed their plastics to a high level of detail.I kinda figured as much, but I don't think I've ever seen unpainted plastic figures before. Oh well. Thanks for the quick response, Vic!I see that these minis are plastic... are they pre-painted as well, then? This would be a very cool little starter kit if that is the case, but if I've gotta spend more money on paints... it becomes less cool.They're unpainted. Given that painting is a major part of Warhammer, I suspect that that will be true for a long, long while.
Indeed, the level of detail on the minis is amazing and they are incredible. I use them for D&D only, I don't do the Warhammer thing, they are worlds nicer than the random lot cheap plastic minis from WotC and even a thick fingered clutz like me can do a decent job painting them. I much prefer my hand painted customized WH minis to the stuff from wizards. I also much prefer the WH plastic to any pewter. Pewter just doesn't hold the level of detail the plastics do.
Indeed, the level of detail on the minis is amazing and they are incredible. I use them for D&D only, I don't do the Warhammer thing, they are worlds nicer than the random lot cheap plastic minis from WotC and even a thick fingered clutz like me can do a decent job painting them. I much prefer my hand painted customized WH minis to the stuff from wizards. I also much prefer the WH plastic to any pewter. Pewter just doesn't hold the level of detail the plastics do.Fate, these are not the small, rubberish D&D figures you're used to. These are more along the lines of model cars and such - hard, injection-mold plastic that comes in pieces that you trim, glue and paint. This allows you to literally customize each and every figure with gear, poses, etc. They used to be primarily pewter figures (now, usually just your main characters and special figures), but they've developed their plastics to a high level of detail.I kinda figured as much, but I don't think I've ever seen unpainted plastic figures before. Oh well. Thanks for the quick response, Vic!I see that these minis are plastic... are they pre-painted as well, then? This would be a very cool little starter kit if that is the case, but if I've gotta spend more money on paints... it becomes less cool.They're unpainted. Given that painting is a major part of Warhammer, I suspect that that will be true for a long, long while.
If your UK based, it is also infinately cheaper to buyGW plastics than it is to buy DnD minitures.
I personally would really, really like to see paizo team up with Citidel minitures, to produce a line of generic(or even gorillian specific) monster and humans minitures.
Dennis: The Pewter can hold the same level of detail as the plastics. The differerence is actually in the sculpting. Metal minis are sculpted in the desired scale, then a mold is made directly from the sculpt. The level of detail is limited to what the sculptor can create at that scale. (GW actually cheats at this sometimes, using parts from plastic kits, like weapons, when creating new metal sculpts.)
Plastic molds have to be cut from steel using a pantograph, so the source model can actually be made at a larger scale than the desired size. This means that the sculptor can produce detail at a much larger scale, then have it shrunken down in the final version.
Zombie: Paizo did team up with Crocodile games to make metal Pathfinder minis: Link
I got the AoBR box set...First these are great mini's even if the poses are a little static...(IE bodies already assembled, you attach gun arm/heads...) But i think they look as good as the multi part models...Excellent for starter wargamers...The value of the set is as well fantastic, with every thing you need to start playing, all in all a great buy for the money...
Another good forum site is called Warseer...