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Two questions:
1. is it possible yet to combine orders with subscriptions? (And didn't I ask that already and was answered "yes you can?" My mind's been wandering again - sometimes I don't see it for days)

2. How much can you put into one of those expensive flatrate boxes for shipping? Answer in pounds and PFRPG core books please.

The question is that a couple of friends want their own PFRPGs, so I was wondering whether we could order them and combine them with my subscription shipment (which will contain my subscription preorder as well as whatever is due to ship together with it). Can it be done? And how many core books could we add?

Paizo Employee (Customer Service Happiness-Inducement Imp)

KaeYoss wrote:

Two questions:

1. is it possible yet to combine orders with subscriptions? (And didn't I ask that already and was answered "yes you can?" My mind's been wandering again - sometimes I don't see it for days)

We do not yet have the ability to combine non-subscription items with subscription shipments. We are still working on this feature, but it is not yet available.

KaeYoss wrote:

2. How much can you put into one of those expensive flatrate boxes for shipping? Answer in pounds and PFRPG core books please.

The question is that a couple of friends want their own PFRPGs, so I was wondering whether we could order them and combine them with my subscription shipment (which will contain my subscription preorder as well as whatever is due to ship together with it). Can it be done? And how many core books could we add?

Well... since you cannot combine the order with your subscription shipment, your best bet is to purchase the books and nothing else. We are using the best and most recent information for the eventual size of the book within our system. This means that you can use your shopping cart right now to see what the shipping and handling fee is going to be.

The book itself will be just over 4 pounds. Unfortunately, this means it will not be eligible for the international shipping discount. I experimented by putting PFRPGs into a shopping cart, and it appears that one book by itself going to your address will have a S&H fee of $40.88, two will be $45.05, three will be $57.65, four will also be $57.65, and five will be $94.68. From that, it appears that you get the best per-book S&H fee by ordering three or four books on one order (about $19 each). I don't know how many books you were planning on getting in total, but I would suggest that you play around with that tool to see what your best S&H fee will be.

Thanks,
cos


Huh? I thought that international orders over a certain weight go into a flatrate box and the price doesn't change any more?.

Thats why I thought that getting severl books would offset the brutal shipping costs, because otherwise the book is half again as expensive on the shop as it would be on local amazon, and since they're not interested in the PDFs (and wouldn't get them anyway, since they're not interested in a subscription), they'll have to go for local channels.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

With this in mind would there be any way you guys could combine the shipping of the Core rulebook and the Bestiary? As I'm also in the boat of wanting to order from your goodselves, but facing brutal shipping costs means I'm effectively spending $90 per book [I know I'm simplifying the math but you feel my wallets pain right?]

BD


For Australia, shipping & handling is $45.05. A few dollars more than the cost of the PFRPG itself!

Unfortunately this means I'll have to wait until a FLGS gets it in and hope I can get a copy a little cheaper.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Battles Case Subscriber)

Ant wrote:

For Australia, shipping & handling is $45.05. A few dollars more than the cost of the PFRPG itself!

Unfortunately this means I'll have to wait until a FLGS gets it in and hope I can get a copy a little cheaper.

Well the Pathfinder Campaign Setting cost 49.95USD and sells here in Australia for 85+ bucks. How much heavy is the PFRPG compared to the Campaign book. I personally think the PFRPG will go on sale here for $100-120 bucks. Current, with currency conversion, it would cost 130 Australia dollars to get the book from Paizo.

Taldor (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Masika wrote:


Well the Pathfinder Campaign Setting cost 49.95USD and sells here in Australia for 85+ bucks. How much heavy is the PFRPG compared to the Campaign book. I personally think the PFRPG will go on sale here for $100-120 bucks. Current, with currency conversion, it would cost 130 Australia dollars to get the book from Paizo.

Pathfinder Campaign Setting is 256 pages

PFRPG is 576 pages (according to product descriptions)

So PFRPG is 2.25 times the size of the Campaign Setting

(Paizo Charter Superscriber)

I think the ability to include the new hardcover in a subscription shipment may be affecting the pre-orders. I know I haven't stuck an order in yet because I'm waiting on the subscription announcement in the hopes that I can combine the shipping with the rest of my monthly stack and save some pennies that way.

Taldor (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Paul Ryan wrote:
I think the ability to include the new hardcover in a subscription shipment may be affecting the pre-orders. I know I haven't stuck an order in yet because I'm waiting on the subscription announcement in the hopes that I can combine the shipping with the rest of my monthly stack and save some pennies that way.

If an item you've preordered becomes part of a subscription you sign up for, the first preorder will go towards the subscription, and you will not get 2 of the item.

(Paizo Charter Superscriber)

Cpt_kirstov wrote:
If an item you've preordered becomes part of a subscription you sign up for, the first preorder will go towards the subscription, and you will not get 2 of the item.

Thanks for the info. I think it'll be easier for me to wait until the subscriptions are announced for this - then I only need to go through the checkout process once to set it up.

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Ant wrote:

For Australia, shipping & handling is $45.05. A few dollars more than the cost of the PFRPG itself!

Unfortunately this means I'll have to wait until a FLGS gets it in and hope I can get a copy a little cheaper.

Ant, If you are anywhere near Sydney, I could add you to my order. By my calculations the book should cost you US$57 as this would bring my preorder up to 4, which is the 'breakpoint' for shipping to Australia.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

KaeYoss wrote:
Huh? I thought that international orders over a certain weight go into a flatrate box and the price doesn't change any more?.

First of all, the Priority Flat Rate Box works differently than you think. For one thing, there are really *two* Flat-Rate Boxes—Regular and Large. And the deal with either is that we can ship as much as we can stuff into it for a fixed fee (and the Large box has a larger fee). Domestically, there's no weight limit—it's purely based on volume—but internationally, there is a weight limit. If your order won't fit in the Flat-Rate Box, or would exceed the maximum weight, then we use a regular box, and you get charged by weight.

Second, while our standard shipping ends at four pounds, we don't *automatically* select a Flat Rate Box when you go over—if the weight-based rate is cheaper, we'll use that.

So, let's look at what Cosmo said.

"I experimented by putting PFRPGs into a shopping cart, and it appears that one book by itself going to your address will have a S&H fee of $40.88, two will be $45.05, three will be $57.65, four will also be $57.65, and five will be $94.68."

Here's why: For one copy, the weight-based rate to your address is cheapest; we can ship that for $40.88. We can fit up to two Pathfinder RPGs into a Regular Flat-Rate Box, so we'd charge $45.05 to ship that. Going to three copies moves it to a Large Flat-Rate Box, which will actually hold up to four copies, so we'd charge $57.65 for either three or four. If you want more than four copies, it won't fit in a Flat-Rate box at all, so it's weight-based again, and the cost will A) jump up dramatically, and B) go up (somewhat less dramatically) for every copy you add after that.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Black Dow wrote:

With this in mind would there be any way you guys could combine the shipping of the Core rulebook and the Bestiary? As I'm also in the boat of wanting to order from your goodselves, but facing brutal shipping costs means I'm effectively spending $90 per book [I know I'm simplifying the math but you feel my wallets pain right?]

BD

If you preorder them both at the same time, during checkout you can specify whether we should ship them as they arrive, or togther after the last one arrives.


Vic Wertz wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Huh? I thought that international orders over a certain weight go into a flatrate box and the price doesn't change any more?.

First of all, the Priority Flat Rate Box works differently than you think. For one thing, there are really *two* Flat-Rate Boxes—Regular and Large. And the deal with either is that we can ship as much as we can stuff into it for a fixed fee (and the Large box has a larger fee). Domestically, there's no weight limit—it's purely based on volume—but internationally, there is a weight limit. If your order won't fit in the Flat-Rate Box, or would exceed the maximum weight, then we use a regular box, and you get charged by weight.

Second, while our standard shipping ends at four pounds, we don't *automatically* select a Flat Rate Box when you go over—if the weight-based rate is cheaper, we'll use that.

So, let's look at what Cosmo said.

"I experimented by putting PFRPGs into a shopping cart, and it appears that one book by itself going to your address will have a S&H fee of $40.88, two will be $45.05, three will be $57.65, four will also be $57.65, and five will be $94.68."

Here's why: For one copy, the weight-based rate to your address is cheapest; we can ship that for $40.88. We can fit up to two Pathfinder RPGs into a Regular Flat-Rate Box, so we'd charge $45.05 to ship that. Going to three copies moves it to a Large Flat-Rate Box, which will actually hold up to four copies, so we'd charge $57.65 for either three or four. If you want more than four copies, it won't fit in a Flat-Rate box at all, so it's weight-based again, and the cost will A) jump up dramatically, and B) go up (somewhat less dramatically) for every copy you add after that.

Ah, now I get it. Thanks for the clarification.


sanwah68 wrote:
Ant, If you are anywhere near Sydney, I could add you to my order. By my calculations the book should cost you US$57 as this would bring my preorder up to 4, which is the 'breakpoint' for shipping to Australia.

Thanks for the kind offer, sanwah68. I'm up in Brisbane ... near Sydney, but probably not near enough. :-)

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Yeh, a little bit of a round trip to get it to you...

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Battles Case Subscriber)

Just spoke with Milsims... they had the Pathfinder RPG listed at 79.99 in there up coming products but I had it confirmed that they are selling the book for 85 AUD. That plus a flat 5.50AUD for delivery in Australia is worth considering.


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