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Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 07:41 AM

Happy Birthday to the United States of America. Huzzah! I love living here.

Happy Fourth to everybody out there,as well. Enjoy the day and the weekend. Be good. If you can't be good, then be careful. Most of all, have fun celebrating the birth of a great nation.

Nameless, Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 07:44 AM

Happy Birthday, America!

Here's something I always liked about you guys: You're there to be different so that us Canadians can define ourselves by what we're not! Without you guys, we would have no identity!

Thanks, USA!

But in all seriousness, you're a pretty awesome country! I wish I had an enormous birthday cake!

Patrick Curtin (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber), Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 07:44 AM

Happy 232 America!

You look fabulous for over two centuries, still leading the way in freedom and democracy. You may have your issues, but at least your residents are allowed to discuss and vote on them. Here's to another two centuries of the great social experiment that held it as a self-evident truth that all folks were created equal and had certain inalienable rights.

Wiglaf (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 08:11 AM

Happy 4th indeed. Just, please be careful out there with the drinking and the blowing stuff up today. I love the holiday, hate the accidents.

Adam Daigle (Contributor), Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 10:23 AM

In the spirit of revolution, Happy Independence Day.

Pete Apple, Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 11:02 AM

Personally, I think the 4th is overrated. I don't like some of the things I'm seeing today and I'm not sure what all the fireworks are about. I really liked the 3rd of July, especially around noon, and would have preferred to just stay there.

So you all can enjoy the 4th but I'm sticking with July 3rd.

yoda8myhead (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 01:53 PM

Pete Apple wrote:

Personally, I think the 4th is overrated. I don't like some of the things I'm seeing today and I'm not sure what all the fireworks are about. I really liked the 3rd of July, especially around noon, and would have preferred to just stay there.

So you all can enjoy the 4th but I'm sticking with July 3rd.

I'm with you Pete. I'm all for America in its ideals and potential, but am not too keen on how it's going at the moment. I have always had a visceral hatred for blind nationalism, regardless of what nation one is rooting for, and American summers are full of them. Anyway, I like BBQ and days off work, so I can't complain too much.

Bill Lumberg, Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 01:58 PM

(prepares multi-stick dynamite party favor)

Freehold DM, Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 02:06 PM

Happy 4th of July! WOOOO!

Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 04:40 PM

Happy 4th!
Now where's my beer and hamburger?

Timespike, Fri, Jul 4, 2008, 10:05 PM

It was a happy Independence Day. :)

There's no other nation I'd rather live in.

yellowdingo, Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 01:47 AM

Timespike wrote:

It was a happy Independence Day. :)

There's no other nation I'd rather live in.

We just got done celebrating the Chinese Gunpowder Festival also...apalling how it degenerated in to calls for banning fireworks so quickly.

Perhaps we should just hand out liquor and shotguns instead.

Andrew Turner (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber), Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 04:01 AM

Today's the 5th for me, but yesterday was spectacular, even with the muggy rain--they shot off the fireworks under the clouds, and it was kind of spooky as they reflected from both the skyscrapers (Yongsan Garrison in Seoul, Korea) and the ceiling (clouds). Free hot dogs, hamburgers, and soda! The Machine played Pink Floyd's best stuff all evening! A really great day; Happy Birthday, USA!

GentleGiant (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 04:18 AM

Timespike wrote:

It was a happy Independence Day. :)

There's no other nation I'd rather live in.

Now the question that begs to be asked... how do you know? How many other nations have you actually lived in to do a proper comparison? :-)

Some general comments...
I think Mr. Zimmerman said it best:
"What if a guy came up to you and said, "I'm gonna bring forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."

You'd probably say, "Right on! Good luck with that!"

And what if he said, "I'm gonna form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

You'd probably say, "Wow! Knock yourself out!"

And what if he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

You'd probably say, "I got a meeting.""

Also, a quiz!
Where is the largest 4th of July celebration outside the US held?

Timespike, Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 05:46 AM

GentleGiant wrote:

Timespike wrote:

It was a happy Independence Day. :)

There's no other nation I'd rather live in.

Now the question that begs to be asked... how do you know? How many other nations have you actually lived in to do a proper comparison? :-)

Some general comments...
I think Mr. Zimmerman said it best:
"What if a guy came up to you and said, "I'm gonna bring forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."

You'd probably say, "Right on! Good luck with that!"

And what if he said, "I'm gonna form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

You'd probably say, "Wow! Knock yourself out!"

And what if he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

You'd probably say, "I got a meeting.""

Actually, I'd say: "Well, Mr. Kennedy, it's a little weird speaking to you from beyond the grave (especially since you were a different guy just a few seconds back), but okay. How about I get a degree in Criminal Justice, train myself physically, and pursue a career in police work so I can help protect some small corner of this country?* Incidentally, Maralyn Monroe is hot and all, but you're married to a good woman. Take care of her, and stop sleeping around."

*I just attained said degree and have been testing for departments. The only thing that kept me out of the military was my wife who basically said: "You can do any kind of protective work you want, as long as it doesn't result in overseas deployment."

Pete Apple, Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 09:03 AM

yoda8myhead wrote:

Pete Apple wrote:

Personally, I think the 4th is overrated. I don't like some of the things I'm seeing today and I'm not sure what all the fireworks are about. I really liked the 3rd of July, especially around noon, and would have preferred to just stay there.

So you all can enjoy the 4th but I'm sticking with July 3rd.

I'm with you Pete. I'm all for America in its ideals and potential, but am not too keen on how it's going at the moment. I have always had a visceral hatred for blind nationalism, regardless of what nation one is rooting for, and American summers are full of them. Anyway, I like BBQ and days off work, so I can't complain too much.

America? Oh, that parts fine.

I just don't prefer the 4th to the 3rd. I'd already purchased the complete set of July 3rd decorations and tablecloths. I also bought all the 3rd party July 3rd stuff to go with it. Now July 4th comes along (so soon after July 3rd too!) and everyone says I have to move to that. Bah! I hear that Paizo is sticking with July 3rd too! I'm really excited to see what they can do to jazz up those old July 3rd decorations.

Andrew Turner (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber), Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 09:08 AM

GentleGiant wrote:

...And what if he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

You'd probably say, "I got a meeting.""...

I said, "Sounds like a plan--where do I sign?

V/R
Major Andrew Turner
US Army

Garydee, Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 09:31 AM

Andrew Turner wrote:

GentleGiant wrote:

...And what if he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

You'd probably say, "I got a meeting.""...

I said, "Sounds like a plan--where do I sign?

V/R
Major Andrew Turner
US Army

As did I.

yoda8myhead (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 10:43 AM

Pete Apple wrote:

[America? Oh, that parts fine.

I just don't prefer the 4th to the 3rd. I'd already purchased the complete set of July 3rd decorations and tablecloths. I also bought all the 3rd party July 3rd stuff to go with it. Now July 4th comes along (so soon after July 3rd too!) and everyone says I have to move to that. Bah! I hear that Paizo is sticking with July 3rd too! I'm really excited to see what they can do to jazz up those old July 3rd decorations.

Oh, I get it. Ha. I'm with you on that too.

Kirth Gersen (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 11:33 AM

I live in America now by choice. I love Independence Day (the holiday, not the movie!). But I am always very puzzled by the people around me who say, without any basis for comparison, things like, "we have more freedom here than anywhere else!"
I ask, "Germany?" (I was born there).
Almost inevitably, they reply, "Europe is a bunch of communists! Go live in Iran!"

There's a lot to love about the U.S. -- and in my mind it's even better if people can make a firsthand comparison for themselves, instead of relying on memorized catch-phrases (or naming places in the news that seem like particularly antithetical examples).

Kobold Cleaver, Sat, Jul 5, 2008, 12:56 PM

Wiglaf wrote:

Happy 4th indeed. Just, please be careful out there with the drinking and the blowing stuff up today. I love the holiday, hate the accidents.

What? No blow stuff up?
Run!!!
*Flees to bomb, blows on it*
BOOM

GentleGiant (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Mon, Jul 7, 2008, 03:04 PM

Just for clarifications, the text I quoted above are some of the lyrics to Roy Zimmerman's song "America" (I had the great pleasure of meeting him back in 2004 after a small intimate show in LA - I was instantly hooked!).

Also, no one has been able to answer my quiz yet!
Quiz Question:
Where is the largest 4th of July celebration outside the US held?

yellowdingo, Tue, Jul 8, 2008, 07:35 AM

Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Wiglaf wrote:

Happy 4th indeed. Just, please be careful out there with the drinking and the blowing stuff up today. I love the holiday, hate the accidents.

What? No blow stuff up?
Run!!!
*Flees to bomb, blows on it*
BOOM

Kobold Cleaver! Your Alive! :) How did you survive the abduction?

Gavgoyle (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber), Tue, Jul 8, 2008, 08:05 AM

GentleGiant wrote:

Also, no one has been able to answer my quiz yet!
Quiz Question:
Where is the largest 4th of July celebration outside the US held?

Geneva.

Yeah, of course I googled it...

Kobold Cleaver, Tue, Jul 8, 2008, 10:36 AM

yellowdingo wrote:

Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Wiglaf wrote:

Happy 4th indeed. Just, please be careful out there with the drinking and the blowing stuff up today. I love the holiday, hate the accidents.

What? No blow stuff up?
Run!!!
*Flees to bomb, blows on it*
BOOM

Kobold Cleaver! Your Alive! :) How did you survive the abduction?

The aliens intended to enslave us all, but fortunatly for us they abducted me, a S/\/\RF and the Pigeons.

The Dire Pigeons of Doom, Tue, Jul 8, 2008, 10:37 AM

Kobold Cleaver wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Wiglaf wrote:

Happy 4th indeed. Just, please be careful out there with the drinking and the blowing stuff up today. I love the holiday, hate the accidents.

What? No blow stuff up?
Run!!!
*Flees to bomb, blows on it*
BOOM

Kobold Cleaver! Your Alive! :) How did you survive the abduction?

The aliens intended to enslave us all, but fortunatly for us they abducted me, a S/\/\RF and the Pigeons.

...one look at us and they decided to enslave someone else. KC is ugly.

Kobold Cleaver, Tue, Jul 8, 2008, 10:37 AM

The Dire Pigeons of Doom wrote:

Kobold Cleaver wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Wiglaf wrote:

Happy 4th indeed. Just, please be careful out there with the drinking and the blowing stuff up today. I love the holiday, hate the accidents.

What? No blow stuff up?
Run!!!
*Flees to bomb, blows on it*
BOOM

Kobold Cleaver! Your Alive! :) How did you survive the abduction?

The aliens intended to enslave us all, but fortunatly for us they abducted me, a S/\/\RF and the Pigeons.

...one look at us and they decided to enslave someone else. KC is ugly.

I think they also saw Heathy.

GentleGiant (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Tue, Jul 8, 2008, 04:35 PM

Gavgoyle wrote:

GentleGiant wrote:

Also, no one has been able to answer my quiz yet!
Quiz Question:
Where is the largest 4th of July celebration outside the US held?

Geneva.

Yeah, of course I googled it...

It would seem then that there are mixed facts about this...
The 4th of July celebrations held here in Denmark, at Rebild Bakker, are being touted as the largest event outside the US.
These celebrations started back in 1912 and have had many prominent US personalities as guests speakers (Walter Cronkite, Walt Disney, Richard Nixon, Hubert Humphrey and Raymond Burr, just to name a few).

Patrick Curtin (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 04:33 AM

Happy Birthday America! It's been a weird 233 years! You still look good for your age! Not a day over 100 ...

yellowdingo, Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 05:35 AM

Patrick Curtin wrote:

Happy Birthday America! It's been a weird 233 years! You still look good for your age! Not a day over 100 ...

Washington torched our family farm forcing us to move to Canada because we refused to support his terrorist army with food and supplies. What is the interest on a Square mile of New York State for 233 years?

Uzzy (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 06:08 AM

Happy Independence Day, you ruddy Colonials! We're glad we got rid of you!

Patrick Curtin (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 06:35 AM

yellowdingo wrote:

What is the interest on a Square mile of New York State for 233 years?

Bup to the power of kiss

Uzzy wrote:

Happy Independence Day, you ruddy Colonials! We're glad we got rid of you!

Yes we were quite happy to see the backside of you imperialist monarchists as well.

Wicht (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 06:38 AM

Happy Fourth to all my fellow Americans (and anyone else who wants to join in the memorial celebration) and a special thanks to those of you who have served or are serving in our military. You are appreciated more than you know.

Woodraven, Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 07:04 AM

Happy Independance Day, here in the U.S.A. I hate having to work on holidays, even if there is holiday pay associated with it.

Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 07:09 AM

Happy Birthday to what I like to think is the greatest country on the face of the Earth. Thanks to all those who make it so great, and those who keep it safe and free.

Uzzy (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 07:59 AM

Patrick Curtin wrote:

Uzzy wrote:

Happy Independence Day, you ruddy Colonials! We're glad we got rid of you!

Yes we were quite happy to see the backside of you imperialist monarchists as well.

I'm sure you were. We all have cute backsides, after all! Either way, I'm enjoying a BBQ, looking at pictures of American Girls, drinking some Budweiser and planning on watching Independence Day later tonight. Go Yanks!

Xabulba, Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 11:18 AM

Lot's of food, beer and expolsions, I LOVE being American. An heartfelt up your's to the badies and an open invit to the party to our bud's.

Agognon (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 11:21 AM

Happy August 13th!!

oh,

well 4th of July is ok too.

Uzzy (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 01:43 PM

Nine Reasons to Celebrate America

Fun little article. :D