Lawful Evil is a great alignment to play.

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Hope these idea's help.

Llv

Hey all, so I'm moving today, and after talking to the new cable company odds are my internet access will be spotty at best until next Saturday, the 7th.

GM please DMPC if any key actions combats etc occur.

See you guys soon.

Okay Mark,

Hope the move goes well.

Well I hope everyone has a Happy All Hallows Eve.

Well I hope everyone has a Happy All Hallows Eve.

True; in the old game; Paladins were forbidden by the players handbook to work with anyone evil; and could only work with a neutral for one mission or so; but I dont know any gm who really followed that rule to the letter.

In 3.5; that rule doesnt exist; though it is rare for a paladin to co-operate with anyone not LG or at least LN; which is why all the armies of the paladins are still at the Holy Cities and not out combating evil ;ie not helping as most people think they should.

Morale quandries; they are what go bump in the night. How does one serve the greatest good; what is good; how do we save the world, these are important questions.

Valegrim wrote:

oh; by the way; there is a Lawful Evil area of many LE Dukes who are all Devil Worshipers who are now part of the Empire under Sebastion's thumb. As they can be citizens they are protected by Imperial law; and being a magus in the guild, which is not concerned about good or evil; you would have a lot of legal protections.

Oh geez, is the goal to see just how much our Paladin can tolerate before he goes all Crusades on somebody?

Ainvarg wrote:

Does my halfling get the 10 "background skill ranks"? Max 2 ranks in non-combat-type skills to flesh out her background?

Yes

Ainvarg wrote:

Would it be feasible for her to have magical armor? As a warmage, she's trained to cast with light armor, but I hate to incur armor penalties for her wizard spells...

The is no mithral chain for sale anywhere at any price

Ainvarg wrote:

Val, I sent you her percentage rolls via e-mail for her background. I know you don't post on weekends, but I thought I'd ask if you need me to re-send those rolls.

no; most of those rolls dont apply until your character is done; they will be background information on how well you got along with your family; mentor; and like that, and could give you a few more bonuses of gear or information depending upon status and like that.

Ainvarg wrote:

I'm hoping she'll be able to take a silver fox or red fox mask for her Guild mask, by the way.

Silver Fox is ok. Let me know if this is definate;

Valegrim wrote:

Ainvarg wrote:

Does my halfling get the 10 "background skill ranks"? Max 2 ranks in non-combat-type skills to flesh out her background?

Yes

OK, other than her gear, I think those ranks are all that remain.

Would magical chain mail of any stripe be available, then? I'm going to assume not.
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not for a halfing.

Her gear would be impacted by whether her background provides her with gear, I presume.
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Yes, it is not something you can count on, but most character start with a potion or two; one magic item or so; and perhaps some money; some start with a lot of background information as well.

Yes, let's roll with the silver fox mask. She will go by "Silfox" or "Silver Fox" or some derivative at this point. She's going to be slow to open up to people, so she doesn't give out her real name easily.
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ok; keep in mind that your "real name" as in a magical name that can be used against you is not exactly your given name; but most Mages of the Order of Mask go by their mask name anyhow.
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Last item: Despite the volumes posted about it, I'm opting not to go with Lawful Evil at this point (although she may slide that way later). Alignment Lawful Neutral -- it's not recorded on her sheet yet.
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ok; I am assuming that the Laws of the Order and the Imperial Laws take precidence? LN is the alignment of the great bueracracy; hehe tripple stamped and initials where even a low level manager is a tyrant hehe of his balliwick.

Thanks and have a great day! Now I have to get back to work.

AinvarG wrote:

Last item: Despite the volumes posted about it, I'm opting not to go with Lawful Evil at this point (although she may slide that way later). Alignment Lawful Neutral -- it's not recorded on her sheet yet.

ok; I am assuming that the Laws of the Order and the Imperial Laws take precedence? LN is the alignment of the great bueracracy; hehe tripple stamped and initials where even a low level manager is a tyrant hehe of his balliwick.

Of course, I'm making that decision in a vacuum of knowledge of the setting, so hopefully it makes sense.

it is the way to go for the ear to a lot of powerful arcane and political persons of note. Most of the people against the Order or Sebastion in general are factions or groups with little global influence; the biggest counter faction are from human clergy; the Order of the Mask forbids any religious building greater than a shrine and no gathering over various group sizes; they are very actively thwarting worship of human dieties; this hasnt has to much opposition as all but a few non greater dieties have all been killed, so their human worhippers and clergy are disheartened and fairly powerless and many have converted to following the Order for guidance and outright survival. The Order of the Mast itself is fairly militant; thus, if you are a 5th level arcane user and member; you will get a warrior companion/guard who is augmented to keep you alive.

While Emperor Sebastion speaks out against human worship of false dieties, he says nothing about non human dieties; he has not interfered in any way with halfling; gnome, dieties; all the elves including the Drow seem to be in conferenced with the Emperor about Drow dieties and elf society in General; Corellian; the prime elf dieties has told the elven people that Sebastion is the Emperor and leader of Elf Kind. Moridin; prime leader of the Dwarven Pantheon has recognised Sebastion as Emperor and told dwarvenkind to follow the Emperor as they did of old. Frey, a Greater Diety of Elves and Human who has thousands of viking warriors; also has decreed Sebastion Emperor and for those who go Viking to follow him. This all happened a couple months ago at the Southern Continent near the Well of Life and was broadcast to all citezens.

Additionally, the Egyptian Pharoah; has allied with Sebastions Empire and have prefered status and legal rights in the Empire; though may not build Temples as earlier stated; and the Imperial Citizens have rights in Egypt but may not interfere with the various temples and religious activities. The Greeks havent come out and said one thing or another; but there are a hundred thousand greeks and others that are in Sebastions army and they give a nod, thus Sebastion is sending aid to Greece and Romanus to help with the undead problem; thus you would be such an aide and ambassador.

Greece and Romanus are uncivilized territories occupied by vast numbers of undead and unrulable at the moment.

yes; Sebastion wears a crystal, full head mask, of an elf.

Here's a stab at a background, as much to see if I have a grasp of how the world works as anything:

Feel free to discard the whole idea, but I started typing and it flowed, so I thought I would share it.

OK, her spells aren't selected yet for her spellbook, either.

Since she has Scribe Scroll, is it possible that she has prepared some scrolls prior to joining the party?

ok; the guild will give you a book of spells to start; and you can choose spells the normal way per the book.

one thing i do different; will state again for you and anyone else; Fystor can reinerate or answer questions when I am not online as he knows all about it.

ok; basically same as in our world you must learn basic math before algebra and that before calculus and that before <and so on and so on> it is the same way for mages.

Thus; consider lower level spells that are similar to high level spells as prerequisites; thus if you want to learn fireball; a third level spell, then a first level fire spell like burning hands and a second level spell like scorching ray are two spells that can be its prerequisites. So; before fly; learn levitate or jump or feather fall.

Is that clear? some spells stand alone. This shows growth thru development of similar concepts to advance and how magic users get known as fire mages; ice mages, lightning mages or elementalists if they do them all; or whatever their field of study has been. It takes a bit of forward looking to plan your character, but there are enough spells available, especially with your chosen guild as a source, that it hasnt a problem.

Sure; scribe three firsts and two seconds, I suggest utility type spells that are handly rather than combat spells.

OK, her spells aren't selected yet for her spellbook, either.

Since she has Scribe Scroll, is it possible that she has prepared some scrolls prior to joining the party?

Is that clear? some spells stand alone. This shows growth thru development of similar concepts to advance and how magic users get known as fire mages; ice mages, lightning mages or elementalists if they do them all; or whatever their field of study has been. It takes a bit of forward looking to plan your character, but there are enough spells available, especially with your chosen guild as a source, that it hasnt a problem.

Regarding the scrolls, that's great, thanks.

Ainvarg here. As I read it, by standard rules, Fox would be eligible for 3 1st-level spells as WIZ1 plus 3 1st-level spells for her Int Mod at first level; she would be eligible to add 2 more 1st-level spells at WIZ2; she would be eligible to add 2 2nd-level at WIZ3.

If that's correct, I have a tentative spell list in her profile. If anyone has seen a better avatar pic for a silver fox or even a standard fox, please let me know -- this was as canine as I could find.

Valegrim:

yes; I will try to get to your spellbook really soon. AS for nubmer of spells; i havent researched it or checked it; any rules lawyers out there want to? I do give exps for peeps who look up rules for me; kind of a researcher bonus hehe.

Ainvarg here. As I read it, by standard rules, Fox would be eligible for 3 1st-level spells as WIZ1 plus 3 1st-level spells for her Int Mod at first level; she would be eligible to add 2 more 1st-level spells at WIZ2; she would be eligible to add 2 2nd-level at WIZ3.

If that's correct, I have a tentative spell list in her profile. If anyone has seen a better avatar pic for a silver fox or even a standard fox, please let me know -- this was as canine as I could find.

Valegrim:
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Ok; here is the role playing exps to date; this is the first time many of you have seen this so I am sure there are going to be questions and the like; but in this format it gives you something to think about while your playing your character. Also, after you read it; if you think i missed something; just let me know; it has often been the case that a player mentions something for himself or others that increases someones exps. This is the first time i have ever posted alignment points gained, but since i hold you acountable for alignment; i thought it should reflect in exps and you should see points gained in my system. We can of course; go over what types of activities are associated with various alignmetns; such as ; lawfuls follow rules and are group oriented; chaos peeps dont. Keep in mind that I understand that rp exps are all from my point of view and I wont be upset if you have a different take on it; basically, I am looking at actions; game threads and character development and do you use the stuff on your character sheet seperate from fighting.

well, enough holding my breath; here goes:
Astinos:

Erkholt

Gyrmbol

Kalona

Kenembi

Kosan (also joined late)

Llvenoc

Nebibit

did I give exps for the battle with the ghost gnoll? hmm; failing memory...am trying to get all caught up on eps to this point.

Ok; here is the role playing exps to date; this is the first time many of you have seen this so I am sure there are going to be questions and the like; but in this format it gives you something to think about while your playing your character. Also, after you read it; if you think i missed something; just let me know; it has often been the case that a player mentions something for himself or others that increases someones exps. This is the first time i have ever posted alignment points gained, but since i hold you acountable for alignment; i thought it should reflect in exps and you should see points gained in my system. We can of course; go over what types of activities are associated with various alignmetns; such as ; lawfuls follow rules and are group oriented; chaos peeps dont. Keep in mind that I understand that rp exps are all from my point of view and I wont be upset if you have a different take on it; basically, I am looking at actions; game threads and character development and do you use the stuff on your character sheet seperate from fighting.

Nebibit:
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Val

Val:

Ok; Gnoll Ghost exps;
3714 per pc involved.

did I give exps for the battle with the ghost gnoll? hmm; failing memory...am trying to get all caught up on eps to this point.

KK, thank you for the feedback.

Valegrim wrote:

Ok; here is the role playing exps to date; this is the first time many of you have seen this so I am sure there are going to be questions and the like; but in this format it gives you something to think about while your playing your character. Also, after you read it; if you think i missed something; just let me know; it has often been the case that a player mentions something for himself or others that increases someones exps. This is the first time i have ever posted alignment points gained, but since i hold you acountable for alignment; i thought it should reflect in exps and you should see points gained in my system. We can of course; go over what types of activities are associated with various alignmetns; such as ; lawfuls follow rules and are group oriented; chaos peeps dont. Keep in mind that I understand that rp exps are all from my point of view and I wont be upset if you have a different take on it; basically, I am looking at actions; game threads and character development and do you use the stuff on your character sheet seperate from fighting.

Nebibit:
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Valegrim

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kk; thanks for the feedback as well; one more thing; their is an Avatar of your diety currently at the Well of Life in the Southern continent. As a greater god; he can of course have several avatars active at once.

Val
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no; its fine; I purposely posted it here instead of emails so that you guys could get an idea of how I gm as we dont have the advantage of face to face talks and discussion over lunches and dinners like usual for a gaming group.

Val:

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Vale:

Vale

Val

Well been enjoying the roleplaying with you guys. Hopefully you don't think I am as manic as Llv is. Lol. Definately an interesting group, and I look forward to meeting the new players in game.

Val

I've enjoyed your company too Balfic! I also can't wait to meet the newest members of our dysfunctional family! LoL!

Welcome guys! ;)

Ok; here is the role playing exps to date; ...

Have enjoyed the interaction with the party. I am looking forward to the new additions, welcome to the Aadams family.

Hmm just occurred to me I have the experience Nebibit has earned but not the xp she would have started with. If someone could help me out with that I would be very greatfull.

As one of the incoming, thanks for the welcome, folks. I think she's getting close, pending some approvals from the DM on some hare-brained ideas I posted. And gear, always gear. When she makes her appearance, Val only knows.

ok catching up. should we level up "overnight"?

btw, thanks for the insight val, will definitely use someb of it, and living the interactions with decidio.

everyone should level as their characters exps get to the number required; I dont worry about who levels when or like that as with the way I do experience for the amount of activity a character does; some players get more experience than others during differing scenes.

Vale
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No; always level right away; one thing though; I do use the training rules; i dont think we have ever discussed this; so will waive it this time; not really fair for me to just spring it on you and I forgot hehe; my bad.

I need to think about this for 3.5; but I generally have characters require training from some mentor until they are level 12 at each level that something significant happens; for magic users; when they aquire a new spell level; ie get 2nd; 3rd; and like spell levels. After 12; which was your named level; then you just study on your own; but below that your learning new combat styles or requireing a library or the like to gain more class knowledge. This is one way that guilds maintain their political and worldly power in the game as they have the resources players need; thus players dont live in a vacuum unto themselves; also gives players a place to spend money.

Val
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I've enjoyed your company too Balfic! I also can't wait to meet the newest members of our dysfunctional family! LoL!

Welcome guys! ;)

Remember Kosan; as your also higher level; this adventure isnt worth as much to you per the chart in the dmg; has nothing to do with your playing ability.

Valegrim wrote:

Ok; here is the role playing exps to date; ...

Val:
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I have your entrance planned for the morning breakfast meeting.

As one of the incoming, thanks for the welcome, folks. I think she's getting close, pending some approvals from the DM on some hare-brained ideas I posted. And gear, always gear. When she makes her appearance, Val only knows.

I have your entrance planned for the morning breakfast meeting.

AinvarG wrote:

As one of the incoming, thanks for the welcome, folks. I think she's getting close, pending some approvals from the DM on some hare-brained ideas I posted. And gear, always gear. When she makes her appearance, Val only knows.

hehe

Val, here she is for review.

EDIT: Just realized I didn't pick out spells for the day, but it will have to come later. Sorry.

Thx Val, will level up as soon as I can.
Crazy week,...

Just let me know what you want to do about the training, once you figure it out! ;)

Ok Val, levelled Erkholt up. Posted as his alias so you can easily click on it to see the spell list I chose for the day.

Hit points - Gained max, assumed that was correct as it is what we began with.

BAB - increased by 1
Gained a feat - Glorious Weapons from complete divine. By spending a turn undead I can make allies weapons become good aligned for 1 round (30ft burst). If that's not acceptable I can change to a players handbook one instead.

Skill points - gained 3. Placed in Diplomacy, concetration and spellcraft.

Gained an additional 2nd level and 3rd level spell slot.

Again, rather than retype them all, spells I've requested are in the spoiler tab for my profile for this character.

I put a couple of spell compendium spells in there, again if this isn't allowed anymore, let me know and I'll swap them out.

Cheers

am not in a hurry to figure it out; just level up.

Thx Val, will level up as soon as I can.
Crazy week,...

Just let me know what you want to do about the training, once you figure it out! ;)

for clerics and divine worshippers; spells are more a matter of being from a Domain your diety grants you access to; am ok with Spell Compendium and many other books.

Glorious Weapons are ok if you have the preqs; keep in mind your diety may not grant them to evil; nuetral; chaos aligned allies. Moradin is LG so more than a step away from his alignment where it says worshiper alignment will take a roll to see if he grants depending on the situation. There are other modifiers as well; he is more likely to grant to a human crafter who is say; CG which is two steps away; than one that is not. So; the closer someone is to Moradin's values; the more likely they will be aided.

Ok Val, levelled Erkholt up. Posted as his alias so you can easily click on it to see the spell list I chose for the day.

Hit points - Gained max, assumed that was correct as it is what we began with.

BAB - increased by 1
Gained a feat - Glorious Weapons from complete divine. By spending a turn undead I can make allies weapons become good aligned for 1 round (30ft burst). If that's not acceptable I can change to a players handbook one instead.

Skill points - gained 3. Placed in Diplomacy, concetration and spellcraft.

Gained an additional 2nd level and 3rd level spell slot.

Again, rather than retype them all, spells I've requested are in the spoiler tab for my profile for this character.

I put a couple of spell compendium spells in there, again if this isn't allowed anymore, let me know and I'll swap them out.

Cheers

OK, Kemnebi is all updated.
(I think) I'll double check him later, but he should be good to go! :)

Leveled! The new improved Astinos, now guaranteed Fear and Disease free