Hello and welcome to the OOC Discussion and Character Creation thread for the "Kill Bargle!" Revenge Game. Please make sure your seatbacks are straightened and your tray tables are in their fully upright and locked position before commencing character creation.

Special Note: During character creation, please keep in mind that this is an old-timey dungeon crawl a la early 1980s TSR. Having said that, if you really want to max out your Ride skill, be my guest.

So here are the rules guidelines:

CHARACTER CREATION RULES

The following sources are available for use in character creation:

• Pathfinder RPG Beta Rules (including all web enhancement and Character Traits documents)
  
• Pathfinder Campaign Setting (for alternate Class abilities, regional feats, and equipment)
  
• Spell Compendium (double check specific spells with GM)
  
• The SRD for any rules not specifically mentioned in the above sources.
  
• If you would like to use an item or a rule from a Pathfinder source not mentioned, please ask me.

20 Point Buy for Stats

All PCs begin at 3rd level at 3,330 XP, and progression will be using the "Fast" table

Starting wealth is 3,000 gp to be spent as you please

No Evil alignments

All PCs receive one free skill point which must be spent on either a Craft of Profession skill. Note that this does not confer Class Skill status on that particular skill.

Hit Points
Hit Points are calculated as follows:
1st Level: Max hit die + Con Score + Con bonus
Subsequent levels: Half hit die plus 1 for d6 and d8 and plus 2 for d10 and d12 (i.e. 4, 5, 7, or 8) + Con bonus

Characters die not at -10 hp, but at -Con score hp, so a character with a Con score of 14 dies when he reaches -14 hp. Characters with a Con score of less than ten die at -10 hp, as per the normal rules.

Characters do not fall unconcious until they reach a negative hp score greater than their Con bonus. That means a character with a Con score of 14 is considered disabled at 0, -1, and -2 hp and falls unconscious at -3 hp. Characters with a Con score of less than 10 fall unconscious at -1 hp.

Character Traits
All PCs receive two character traits for free at first level which can be chosen from the list in THIS document. Additional traits may be gained by selecting "Additional traits" feat from the same document.

ADDITIONAL RULES

Poison
Poisons that deal ability damage work a little differently, as they no longer have primary and secondary damage (I often forget to roll the secondary damage). Instead, the two damage dice are combined and the poisoned person takes 1 point of ability damage per round until s/he makes a successful save or is otherwise healed up to the maximum ability damage possible. Let's say a poison in the original SRD rules does 1d6 primary and 1d4 secondary damage. With these new rules the poisoned character would take 1 hp of damage per round, up to a total of 10 points of damage, but get a saving throw every turn, with only one successful save needed to permanently end the poison's effect.

Actions in Combat

• A character who can draw a weapon as part of a move action can draw anything reasonable with a move action (wand, potion, scroll).
  
• Readying an action does not change your initiative point. Delaying still does.
  
• Standing up from prone is a move action that does NOT provoke an Attack of Opportunity.

Best,

BrOp

Amended character ala hp and traits.

Amended character ala hp and traits.

BrOp

Addendum: Also, since you'll be playing a ranger in a dungeon adventure, I want to give you a different way to shine. *Cough* *Cough* Favored Enemy *Cough* *Cough* Humanoid (reptilian) *Cough* *Cough*

Here's a question for everyone:

I've been thinking of using Paizo's Critical Hit and Fumble decks for this game. How do people feel about this? I would be using the optional rules where you can "bank" critical hits in order to stave of fumbles and where weapons with a higher critical threat multipliers step up (see HERE).

BrOp

Here is Ignacious in his current form.

I noticed someone in the recruitment thread put forth a halfling wizard, so should I go with the rogue rather than the sorceror for the sake of party balance?

I noticed someone in the recruitment thread put forth a halfling wizard, so should I go with the rogue rather than the sorceror for the sake of party balance?

Thank you,

BrOp

Will be detailing Gregori over the next day or so. I personally love the way the deck makes for interesting criticals. An arrow to the throat is different from a warhammer to the kneecap, the conditions added bring a more organic element to combat.

I personally love the way the deck makes for interesting criticals. An arrow to the throat is different from a warhammer to the kneecap, the conditions added bring a more organic element to combat.

BrOp

She still needs some work (and a background), but here's your rogue.

I don't mind using Critical Hit & Fumble decks, although I may change my tune if I do any lasting damage to my own character. :)

Critical decks work for me!

Critical decks work for me!

Let me explain how they will work:

Please make all skill, ability, and attack rolls using Invisible Castle. If you roll a potential critical on a hit, please make a confirmation check as per normal. If the result is a crit I will draw a card from Paizo's Critical Hit Deck and announce the results in the next combat summary. If your attack has a higher critical multiplier than x2, I will step up the effect on the card as well. Note that this is different from the old rules, and is an optional rule included with the new decks. In addition, if you role a confirmed critical hit you can choose not to take it (and just do normal damage) and "bank" that crit for a later trade-in. Trade against what, I hear you cry?

Fumbles. Every time you roll a natural "1" on an attack roll, you automatically miss and have a chance to fumble. When this happens, please roll another attack roll using your FULL (i.e. highest) attack modifier with that weapon. If the roll is again a miss, you fumble. At that point I draw a card from the dreaded Critical Fumble Deck. It is at this point that if you have banked a critical hit, you can trade it in and simply miss (and not fumble) with the current attack.

Please note that anyone can fumble, but only PCs and major villains of my choosing use the Critical Hit deck.

Any questions?

I'm toying with the idea of making Aleena's father blind. Is everyone players as well as DM up for that? If so what modifications would you out on me?

I'm toying with the idea of making Aleena's father blind. Is everyone players as well as DM up for that? If so what modifications would you out on me?

Thats cool, I just saw an avatar that looked like it was blind so I was pondering it. I think I'll stay away from to gonzo on this since it's a bit more old school.

Can't seem to get that link to invisible castle to work is it a paizo die roller?

Can't seem to get that link to invisible castle to work is it a paizo die roller?

The correct link is just:

invisiblecastle.com/roller

BrOp

**rolls**

Damn it failed my Will Save.
If there's a spot still open then Bargle has a warm place in my heart as well as the first D&D game I ever played.
For nostalgia's sake!!!

Take that Mark... you can't shake me!!! ;)-

**rolls**

Damn it failed my Will Save.
If there's a spot still open then Bargle has a warm place in my heart as well as the first D&D game I ever played.
For nostalgia's sake!!!

Just post as your character in this thread when you're ready for me to review it.

Thanks for your interest!

BrOp

Just post as your character in this thread when you're ready for me to review it.

Thanks for your interest!

Let's see, what do we need?
We have:
Wizard
Ranger
Paladin
Rogue
Cleric

hmmm...

Branding Opportunity wrote:

Just post as your character in this thread when you're ready for me to review it.

Thanks for your interest!

Cool.

Let's see, what do we need?
We have:
Wizard
Ranger
Paladin
Rogue
Cleric

hmmm...

I have no preference, as we have all the standard bases covered. Is there a Pathfinder RPG class that you have been wanting to try out?

OK, here's everything but the History and Appearance of my character.

FEAT SELECTION
Cosmopolitan is the Katapeshi Regional Feat from Campaign Setting

TRAIT SELECTION
Merchant's Child is a Katapeshi Regional Trait from the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide (if you won't allow this that's no problem, I'll just choose something else from the Trait Supplement)

Both of these choices will make a little more sense once I have her History written in (as will the strange name choice for a Katapeshi).

MAGIC ITEM
Dawnflower Sash is from Gods and Magic and is the Sarenrae specific Magic Item.

Meet Aleena's father. I'll work up a bit more background later but here is the crunch we need to play.

OK, here's everything but the History and Appearance of my character.

Will have background and description tomorrow

**rolls**

Damn it failed my Will Save.
If there's a spot still open then Bargle has a warm place in my heart as well as the first D&D game I ever played.
For nostalgia's sake!!!

Take that Mark... you can't shake me!!! ;)-

First of all, congrats to everyone for getting their characters together so quickly! I look forward to getting things started.

Here are my comments on the PCs:

Rhade:

Ignacious Throckmorton III:

Gregory Shadowbane:

Zo:

Cordelia Chrichton:

Father Meghdad:

The first IC Post is up! Please join me THERE!

BrOp

I put the freebie skill point into craft (alchemy).

First of all, congrats to everyone for getting their characters together so quickly! I look forward to getting things started.

Here are my comments on the PCs:

[Gregory Shadowbane:
** spoiler omitted **

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I think 7 languages is right, correct? She starts with Common & Varisian, gets 2 for her Int & 3 for Linguistics.

I actually forgot my Favored Class bonus. I took the extra hit points.

I also couldn't decide what to do with her Craft/Profession skill until the end, then forgot to go back and put it in. She should be good now.

First of all, congrats to everyone for getting their characters together so quickly! I look forward to getting things started.
Here are my comments on the PCs:
Rhade:
** spoiler omitted **

First of all, congrats to everyone for getting their characters together so quickly! I look forward to getting things started.

Here are my comments on the PCs:

Ignacious Throckmorton III:
** spoiler omitted **

I put the freebie skill point into craft (alchemy).

Father Meghdad wrote:

I put the freebie skill point into craft (alchemy).

I think you also have 28 hp rather than 26. Should be 8 (HD) + 5 + 5 (2nd and 3rd level) + 10 (Con score). Every little bit counts!

DM BrOp - Kill Bargle! wrote:

Father Meghdad wrote:

I put the freebie skill point into craft (alchemy).

I think you also have 28 hp rather than 26. Should be 8 (HD) + 5 + 5 (2nd and 3rd level) + 10 (Con score). Every little bit counts!

I missed the half die plus 1 when reading the creation rules. Will fix. :)

I made a big long post explaining my math for skill points and how it all worked out but the Post Monster ate it. :(

Thanks for the catch on the spell. Fixed it. There should have been Identify on there as well, but must have missed it.

This is the point in the adventure (before the first combat begins) when I ask for a marching order, both for 5' and 10' corridors.

Just to make things easier, here is my suggestion. Please feel free to make comments.

5'

FRONT
Zo (Rogue)
Rhade (Ranger)
Cordelia (Sorcerer)
Ignatius (Wizard
Father Meghdad (Cleric)
Gregori (Paladin)
BACK

10'

FRONT
Zo - Rhade
Cordelia - Ignatius
Father Meghdad - Gregori
BACK

This is the point in the adventure (before the first combat begins) when I ask for a marching order, both for 5' and 10' corridors.

Just to make things easier, here is my suggestion. Please feel free to make comments.

5'

FRONT
Zo (Rogue)
Rhade (Ranger)
Cordelia (Sorcerer)
Ignatius (Wizard
Father Meghdad (Cleric)
Gregori (Paladin)
BACK

10'

FRONT
Zo - Rhade
Cordelia - Ignatius
Father Meghdad - Gregori
BACK

Sounds about right.

Stealth & perception at the front and spellcasters protected in the middle -- looks good!

Hopeless,

Are you still having trouble with Invisible Castle?

To Everyone:
Also, do you want the rogue and the ranger scouting more than 5' ahead? In other words, should they stay with the party, or a good distance ahead where the folks with the high ACP won't give them away?

To Everyone:
Also, do you want the rogue and the ranger scouting more than 5' ahead? In other words, should they stay with the party, or a good distance ahead where the folks with the high ACP won't give them away?

I vote for us scouting farther ahead. Not much point in rolling Stealth checks if you've got someone in full plate clanking along at your heels. We've just got to hope one of us escapes to bring the cavalry, if needed. ;)

This is the point in the adventure (before the first combat begins) when I ask for a marching order, both for 5' and 10' corridors.

Just to make things easier, here is my suggestion. Please feel free to make comments.

20-25' should work

20-25' should work

In situations like this, where people are using skills over longer periods of time, I am just assuming that everyone makes passive Stealth and Perception checks (Taking 10). Otherwise we would technically end up making dozens of skill checks, and how fun is that? If there's anything that draws your particular attention, I'll have you make separate ones.

Hi folks,

I recently found out that I will be going out of town for work (Natchez, MS) for the entire month of May. I believe that I will be taking a laptop with me, but that is not definite yet. What this means is that there is a chance I will be posting less, or worse, that I will have to cease posting regularly for that time. I will have my Blackberry with me, so I can continue with that if need be, but of course that means no combat maps and whatnot.

I will keep you updated. I am committed to continuing this game as I think we're off to a good start.

Best,

BrOp (Alex)