Though fans of Dungeons & Dragons have led the Old School Revival, many other tabletop roleplaying games from the 1970s and early '80s still have fans. One of the oldest, strongest and best loved is the Hero System - the all-encompassing Hero Games rules system founded on the landmark 1981 superhero RPG Champions.

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My opinion? Wow. Talk about a long, arduous road. Shows how even good customer service and product is not enough: you've got to evolve with the times. Wishing the best to Hero and the MMO!

Curse my work's firewall.

Hero does seem to be evolving. I am surprised to see 6th edition not make more drastic changes. This seems a risky move to me as I still remember the 3.0 -> 3.5 hate. Then again, they are giving it a glossy new look. Something people have been asking for. I always thought content was more important than a slick presentation, but it appears I am in the minority. That is not to say I am questioning the content of 6th edition.

What bugs me, and no where near the amount of angst certain other systems have incurred, is the decision to 'save' some rules and release them in later supplements. I am looking at you Advanced Player's Guide. I understand why they are doing it. The market has proven this a profitable strategy. I am leaning towards demonstrating my disfavor by not following Hero into 6th. It is a tough decision though, because it looks like they have really tightened the system up.

Curse my work's firewall.

Hero does seem to be evolving. I am surprised to see 6th edition not make more drastic changes. This seems a risky move to me as I still remember the 3.0 -> 3.5 hate. Then again, they are giving it a glossy new look. Something people have been asking for. I always thought content was more important than a slick presentation, but it appears I am in the minority. That is not to say I am questioning the content of 6th edition.

What bugs me, and no where near the amount of angst certain other systems have incurred, is the decision to 'save' some rules and release them in later supplements. I am looking at you Advanced Player's Guide. I understand why they are doing it. The market has proven this a profitable strategy. I am leaning towards demonstrating my disfavor by not following Hero into 6th. It is a tough decision though, because it looks like they have really tightened the system up.

The big problem with 5th revised was, to me, it was thicker than Pathfinder's book, but made of newsprint inside. Or just about that cheaply. The FLGS kept trying to sell me one and telling me 'Dude, it's 700 pages, you can't do 700 pages for $50 on decent paper'.

I never bought the revised version, I do have the original 5th version (which had slightly better paper).

It's not the 'slickness' or 'wow cool art'. It's the 'Oh damn, I ripped another page in this stupid cheap book'. I know people who bought it and the spine ripped apart and pages tore, because it was cheaply made. Someone in accounting made that decision.

I know people who bought it and the spine ripped apart and pages tore, because it was cheaply made. Someone in accounting made that decision.

From Steve Long himself: The paper question's been discussed extensively on a couple other threads in this forum, if you want to look them up. The basic gist is: this is actually better paper than 5E's paper, with a higher rag content for increased strength (which we felt was necessary, given the size of the book). If we bleached it out to make it whiter, it would weaken the paper, defeating the point of selecting it in the first place. ;)

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mdt wrote:

I know people who bought it and the spine ripped apart and pages tore, because it was cheaply made. Someone in accounting made that decision.

From Steve Long himself: The paper question's been discussed extensively on a couple other threads in this forum, if you want to look them up. The basic gist is: this is actually better paper than 5E's paper, with a higher rag content for increased strength (which we felt was necessary, given the size of the book). If we bleached it out to make it whiter, it would weaken the paper, defeating the point of selecting it in the first place. ;)

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I was looking at a copy in the gaming store and a page tore while I was flipping through it. Maybe the local area just got a bad batch, but, when you've got people you know complaining about the spine falling apart and the pages tearing during normal game use...

Mine has held up just fine. I do not think you could accidentally tear it.

Mine has held up just fine. I do not think you could accidentally tear it.

LOL,

I am glad yours held up though.

CourtFool wrote:

Mine has held up just fine. I do not think you could accidentally tear it.

LOL,

There hasn't been a sheet of paper made that goes in a book that can't be accidentally torn.

I am glad yours held up though.

Yeah, maybe I'm secretly Grond, but I've torn my fair share of book pages by accident.

Maybe your copy is written on the Disks of Mishakal or the golden plates of Joseph Smith, though.

There hasn't been a sheet of paper made that goes in a book that can't be accidentally torn.

Do tell.