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David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 02:58 PM

I vote for blademage or swordmage myself.

MisterSlanky (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:10 PM

Netromancer wrote:

I would also like to add any word where "Z" is substituted for "S". Hell, I'll shoot for the sky, any deliberate mispelling of a word...

Great idea!

I vote for "Githz0rz"

seekerofshadowlight, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:13 PM

So far we have
*Arcane warrior
*Spellthane
*Warden
*Mageblade
*weirbrand
*Sword mage

Any other ideals out there?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:15 PM

No splatbook in which the gish is stated up and then given non-gith fluff. There did I miss any dumb usages?

Forget you? You are my raison d' etre.

The Gish, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:16 PM

You forgot me!

David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:17 PM

seekerofshadowlight wrote:

So far we have
*Arcane warrior
*Spellthane
*Warden
*Mageblade
*weirbrand
*Sword mage

Any other ideals out there?

Well, we can't leave out the penultamite gish class in 3.5, Duskblade.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:18 PM

Weird. I thought I was replying, not editing.

seekerofshadowlight, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:24 PM

I left the duskblade out as it was a class and does not capture the feel of a fighter/mage in a general way

David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:27 PM

Fair enough. What about just calling it what it is, an armored mage?

Sebastian (Bella Sara Charter Superscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:30 PM

gish-wish?

David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:33 PM

gish-fish?

David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:34 PM

True or false: gish=Jedi?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:34 PM

Dish on the gish.

Charlie Bell (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:34 PM

MisterSlanky wrote:

Netromancer wrote:

I would also like to add any word where "Z" is substituted for "S". Hell, I'll shoot for the sky, any deliberate mispelling of a word...

Great idea!

I vote for "Githz0rz"

Gizh.

Maybe the 17th-level chaotic evil anti-paladin githyanki knights could come riding in on their adult red dragon mounts and simply sever the silver cords of any "gish offenders" with a single swipe of their +3 silver swords.

/geekloreshowoff

seekerofshadowlight, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:35 PM

Jedi would be an arcane warrior or a psionic warrior yes. I would pin them as psionic more then arcane

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:35 PM

T/F Non-gith gish = native of Munchkinland.

David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:36 PM

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

T/F Non-gith gish = native of Munchinland.

True.

David Fryer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:36 PM

seekerofshadowlight wrote:

Jedi would be an arcane warrior or a psionic warrior yes. I would pin them as psionic more then arcane

More to the point, do you think that is the appeal to most people?

Sebastian (Bella Sara Charter Superscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:37 PM

David Fryer wrote:

True or false: gish=Jedi?

True, but at that point, I think you really need to go with a gestalt build. I realize it's necessary to balance classes in an rpg, but it would be crazy to suggest the jedi aren't an entirely different level of power when compared to non-jedi.

seekerofshadowlight, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:40 PM

David Fryer wrote:

seekerofshadowlight wrote:

Jedi would be an arcane warrior or a psionic warrior yes. I would pin them as psionic more then arcane

More to the point, do you think that is the appeal to most people?

I think it is really. They are tearless warriors with mystic powers. That and light sabers are fraking cool

Luke Skywalker, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:41 PM

I want to become a gishi like my father...

TheDrone, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:42 PM

What about the ever popular tank-mage?

seekerofshadowlight, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 03:43 PM

Luke Skywalker wrote:

I want to become a gishi like my father...

Your love this....My pbp Stap group( game set in eberron year 998) named the group "the millennium falcons" something that still amuses me

Celestial Healer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 04:26 PM

MisterSlanky wrote:

Netromancer wrote:

I would also like to add any word where "Z" is substituted for "S". Hell, I'll shoot for the sky, any deliberate mispelling of a word...

Great idea!

I vote for "Githz0rz"

I believe you meant "G17hz0rz". I think we've found the name for our class.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 04:30 PM

Awesome. Now get the PMG to put all threads for this new class in its own forum so I can close them off...

Weylin, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:00 PM

Still find it curious that a term that appeared in reference to a single race (mind you a very iconic one) has spread to such wide useage.

My two cents is how about the very direct Fighter-Wizard or Fighter-Sorcerer. ;)

-Weylin

Heathansson, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:05 PM

Celestial Healer wrote:

I'm still in favor of "g&%~" being coded as profanity so that it gets filtered on the forums.

Look up gish in the urban dictionary. Considering that, it might work.

Jobbie Duke, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:10 PM

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Mothman (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:11 PM

I just assumed that all these gish threads that were popping up meant that suddenly everyone wanted githyanki somehow incorporated into the PFRPG rules…

Heathansson, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:13 PM

Nope. Just fimag's.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:13 PM

There ya go. BAN IT!

Mothman (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:15 PM

Heathansson wrote:

Celestial Healer wrote:

I'm still in favor of "g&%~" being coded as profanity so that it gets filtered on the forums.

Look up gish in the urban dictionary. Considering that, it might work.

Wow.

I'm going to look at all these gish threads in a totally new light now.

"Really? You really want to play a gish? O...K..."

Mothman (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:16 PM

Heathansson wrote:

Nope. Just fimag's.

Sorry, forgot to put my [/sarcasm] discalimer on.

Heathansson, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:17 PM

Nah; it was a rhetorical answer.

Mothman (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:19 PM

Arcane Warrior works for me as a generic class name. Sure it's not as kewl as say Duskblade or something, but it's also non-specific enough to cover most of what people might be looking for in a f/m-u type.

Heathansson, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:21 PM

Airbender?

Xabulba, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:24 PM

Anime?

Shuriken Nekogami, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:40 PM

Whisperknife? it could serve for a more roguely gish. that combines spells with sneak attack within 30 feet with a dagger. has all the rogue skills, 1/2 rogue talent progression, in exchange for bardic casting of sorcerer/wizard spells. of illusion, transmutation, enchantment, divination, conjuration (maybe) and evocation (maybe). i could get to writing it as soon as possible.

Heathansson, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:43 PM

I like "abracastabya"

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:47 PM

We have a winner.

Dazylar, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:49 PM

Heathansson wrote:

I like "abracastabya"

rofl

Hocus Poku Wif A Dagga

Adam Daigle (Contributor), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 05:50 PM

Heathansson wrote:

I like "abracastabya"

Well done!

Celestial Healer, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 06:38 PM

Heathansson wrote:

Celestial Healer wrote:

I'm still in favor of "g&%~" being coded as profanity so that it gets filtered on the forums.

Look up g~~& in the urban dictionary. Considering that, it might work.

What we need to do is use it in THAT sense as much as humanly possible so the mods have no choice but to filter it.

Heathansson wrote:

I like "abracastabya"

And Heathy, again, wins the internet.

Shuriken Nekogami, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 06:48 PM

Sylvan blade

zylphryx (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 07:36 PM

Sebastian wrote:

Also, if there's some sort of button we can push to ban these words, I'd like everyone to know that I'm available to guard said button and prevent other, less honorable posters from deleting words willy-nilly from the English language...

You mean like "willy-nilly"?

ArchLich, Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 08:10 PM

seekerofshadowlight wrote:

So far we have
*Arcane warrior
*Spellthane
*Warden
*Mageblade
*weirbrand
*Sword mage

Any other ideals out there?

runechampion
bladewitch
weaponmagi
steelcharmed
battle sear
ur-blade
hexknight

Xabulba, Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 12:45 AM

ArchLich wrote:

seekerofshadowlight wrote:

So far we have
*Arcane warrior
*Spellthane
*Warden
*Mageblade
*weirbrand
*Sword mage

Any other ideals out there?

runechampion
bladewitch
weaponmagi
steelcharmed
battle sear
ur-blade
hexknight

JuJuknife
Mojomauler
Combat Ruitulist
Spearwand
Overpowered PC

Urizen (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber), Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:25 AM

Sebastian wrote:

If this committee has the power to remove words from the english language, I would propose that we set our sights higher. "Impactful" has long been a scourge upon the language, and should be purged!

Also, if there's some sort of button we can push to ban these words, I'd like everyone to know that I'm available to guard said button and prevent other, less honorable posters from deleting words willy-nilly from the English language...

[threadjack]

Whenever that button is found and guarded, include 'pre-approved' and 'pre-qualified' to that list...

[/threadjack]

Jandrem, Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:56 AM

I've always referred to my magey/fighter types as "Martial Arcanists", but that term won't work for general use very well. Too many syllables.

I, like others, vote for Mageblade. Simple, to the point.

Not a fan of the gish either. I've seen it used so many different ways I generally ignore it.

Arnwyn (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 12:47 PM

houstonderek wrote:

Player: I want to play a gish.
Me: Well, githyanki have a pretty hefty LA.
Player: No, I want to play a human.
Me: But I thought you said you wanted to play a gish?
Player: Huh?
Me: ...

'nuff said.