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I personally have enjoyed paizo more recently then WotC, the only material that i enjoy from them is the whole eberron series. Everything else seems to just be about money, am i way off or on target?

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Well, it all comes down to personal preference. For the past couple of years, I've found a lot of use from Dungeon magazine, especially in terms of cost per issue to usage. I could open almost any Dungeon magazine and come out with, if not an entirely usable adventure, then at least a few good ideas for one of my own. WotC has been a little hit and miss for me. Granted, I don't purchase from them as often, due to the price tags, but I've found books that were really helpful/interesting (The Fiendish Codex series, Secrets of Xen'drik, the Forgotten Realms and Eberron campaign books) and books that just didn't have much to offer me (Shattered Gates of Slaughterguard, Faiths of Eberron).

I have noticed that a lot of the products I consider to be of high quality were written by people that work on or have contributed to Dungeon and Dragon magazine while Paizo has been at the helm. But I won't completely short change the folks at WotC, since maybe I just noticed because I like those writers.


Okay, I am angry at WotC. I don't like a lot of their decisions which seem to be less about maintaining D&D and more about money but I think that we have beaten this particular horse into submission. Almost every thread I see is about how ecil WotC is and how much we don't like them but enough is enough. Lets move on.


Yeah, but what can you expect from a massive corporation these days.

But I am done with WotC. With Paizo producing there own cmapaign setting, I don't even need WotC for Eberron anymore.

I'm simply going to convert Paizo's new campaign (what is the name of the world? Varissa?) to Iron Heroes, and that is going to be my home campaign world.

Why create it myself, when someone can do it for me? And who better to do it than Paizo?


its all quality man i feel that they are stretching to put a price tag on more and more things; i mean they are really stretching books there are so many times that they could of put two books into one and they have generalized focused books that drive me up the wall half the time these days if you dont have all the books you feel almost as if your working at a disadvantage, especially as a dm. i also feel when i hold in my hand two books of varing density with the same pricetag it makes me want to impale someone and display them in my front yard. but maybe this all goes into the face that i also have a strong dislike for capitalism even though i understand it usefulness. anyway thats my 4 cents


but what is pathfinder all about, i mean i fell in love with eberron and all of keith bakers work; hes a fellow gamer who did extraordinary work on it all i just hate the fact that someone to get their world or work mainstream you have to sign a deal with the devil, and the also shot down dragonlance too,


well anyway i hope paizo buys out Dnd (when WotC finally decides to sell it) so are the pathfinder books going to be at books stores in oct? also are there any exerpts so i know what its kinda like before i buy it


Istari wrote:
but what is pathfinder all about, i mean i fell in love with eberron and all of keith bakers work; hes a fellow gamer who did extraordinary work on it all i just hate the fact that someone to get their world or work mainstream you have to sign a deal with the devil, and the also shot down dragonlance too,

Have to Pipe up about the Dragonlance thing.

It was actually MWP/SP who chose not to continue with the License! Not the other way around.

Just a little addendum.

Have to agree with an earlier poster, please stop filling the messageboards with the same thing again and again.

Plenty of threads to voice your opinion inside, without making more threads of redundancy!


I'm up set too. I think WOTC is losing sight of D&D history by killing off Dragon and the Dragonlance license.

Mike


dragonlance either way once it was taken over by Wotc they never really tried to push it the only books i found for it were third party so why wouldn't they want to move out of the situation


Heh, simple comparison; WoTC forums or Paizo forums? Says enough I guess.

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6, Contributor)

Earthbeard wrote:


Have to Pipe up about the Dragonlance thing.

It was actually MWP/SP who chose not to continue with the License! Not the other way around.

Curious - do you have a link to SP actually stating that? WotC's been claiming a lot things weren't them or were mutual decisions, and it's not all that believable.

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there is a news blurb on sovereign's website and copied on Enworld's news page. It is by Margaret Weis and basically says the same thing as Paizo: the license was pulled by wizards in a mutually agreed split.

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6, Contributor)

blope wrote:
there is a news blurb on sovereign's website and copied on Enworld's news page. It is by Margaret Weis and basically says the same thing as Paizo: the license was pulled by wizards in a mutually agreed split.

To me, that's the same as "asking" someone to resign insteadd of firing them. It's face-saving spin.


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