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Besides kenku. And phanatons.
See, I'm in a new campaign and we're trying to come up with a race for one of the players. She wants to have a pet crow (not a familiar)and she thinks it'd be cool if her character had wings to match. She thought about a half-celestial, but the LA was too high. Any winged races?

Taldor (Pathfinder Campaign Setting Superscriber)

Avariel (winged elves) have an ECL of +3


Try Avariels. I believe they're from Races of Faerun and I can't remember how high their LA is but its worth a shot.


Well, it's a 1st level game at the moment, so Avariels are out of the question. I'll check my books, see if there's anything close enough...


How 'bout raptorans from Races of the Wild?

(RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16)

Races of the Wild introduces a new race called the Raptorans. I havent read much about them but I think you can paly one with out any level advancement issues.


There's the avariel from Forgotten realms.. they're winged elves. Then there's the raptorans, from Races of the Wild. They gradually get the ability to fly as they level up and don't even have a level adjustment (IIRC). There's also the aarakocra, from Dark Sun and Forgotten Realms (find them in Dragon 319 and Monsters of Faerun). The hadozee from Stormwrack are like sailor gorillas with the ability to glide. Nycter are little bat people (found in MM3). That's all I can find so far...


Week of the unintentional redundant posts.


Yeah. This thread went up FAST.


Ouch, I repeated two sets of replies!


I'll have a look at the Raptorans and Aarakroca. Don't have the books, but I'll see what I can scrounge up.


Evil Genius wrote:
Ouch, I repeated two sets of replies!

You did it again!


Looks like the Faerun aarakocra have a LA of +2, so it's less than avariel, but not by much. The Dark Sun ones might have a higher LA.. not sure, though.


Yeah, I managed to find both the aarakroca and the raptoran on the web! I think they both have +0 LAs, too!


Kobolds don't have wings, but you can throw them real easy. It's almost like flying.


I think WotC put out a web enhancement for Serpent Kingdoms(?) that had a dinosaur type flyer.


pres man wrote:
I think WotC put out a web enhancement for Serpent Kingdoms(?) that had a dinosaur type flyer.

Yeah, I saw that.


Heathansson wrote:
Kobolds don't have wings, but you can throw them real easy. It's almost like flying.

YAAAAAH!!! Help!!! *Splat*


a player in my new game is playing a raptoraan
they seem pretty decent
they cant fully fly until a later level which makes sense
they can glide at first though


Two other options are in Races of the Dragon. One of the benefits of the dragonborn template, is the ability to fly (at 6 HD I think). Alternatively, there is a Kobold feat that also gives you wings. Both these are playable from level 1, although you may not be able to fly from level 1.

They should at elast give you some ideas.

Alternatively, if she is more interested in wings than actually flying, just say she has wings, but they are two small and stumpy to grant actual flight. Maybe a throwback to a long past dragon ancestor? I'm sure you and your player can come up with a plausible backstory.


There's also the "Winged Creature", an inherited template (+2 LA) from Savage Species. IIRC it needs some updating to v.3.5 rules, but that shouldn't be too much hassle.


mevers wrote:
...there is a Kobold feat that also gives you wings....

Really?

*Changes profile*

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I don't like flying races. They make Alter Self break.

Andoran (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16)

mevers wrote:
Alternatively, there is a Kobold feat that also gives you wings. Both these are playable from level 1, although you may not be able to fly from level 1.

Is the feat related to the 2E Urd? (i.e. flying kobold rock-dropping bombers)


JoelF847 wrote:
mevers wrote:
Alternatively, there is a Kobold feat that also gives you wings. Both these are playable from level 1, although you may not be able to fly from level 1.
Is the feat related to the 2E Urd? (i.e. flying kobold rock-dropping bombers)

That sounds like something that should serve a wicked witch.


Cato Novus wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:
mevers wrote:
Alternatively, there is a Kobold feat that also gives you wings. Both these are playable from level 1, although you may not be able to fly from level 1.
Is the feat related to the 2E Urd? (i.e. flying kobold rock-dropping bombers)
That sounds like something that should serve a wicked witch.

What about the flying monkeys?


I echo the raptorian sentiment. They're the most "core" PC race (rather than having to retool a monster) and they are usually ignored by people, which is sad.

They tend to be a cliffdwelling people who construct communal nest cities.

There's a background article on them at Wizards, an excerpt from the book they're in.

Take a look


Thanks! I also managed to find in WotC a sneak peak at the stats for the race, so I'll be able to use that!


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