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Poll to determine edition is located HERE if anyone's interested in participating.

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

And frankly I'm amazed by the relatively light support for 4e in the votes.


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
And frankly I'm amazed by the relatively light support for 4e in the votes.

I'm not. I have noticed a trend at my FLGS. The folks that read KQ or buy Paizo products are looking to keep the flow of 3.5 material open. They are the hardcore D&D players.

Then there are the vast majority of folks at the shop that now play 4e. They do not follow the forums or dig deep into the 3rd party publisher scene. They buy from WotC and may pick up a few third party products but not with any regularity. The third party 4e products are not a big attraction for them. Just like when 3.5 was the current edition - they were not buying third party products back then.

It seems that third party publishing is its own market with a distinct sub-set of the overall D&D player base. That subset is more likely to stick with 3.5 than move to 4e because of the OGL. That is the part they like most - open gaming products.

I have no doubt that third party products for 4e will do well because of the size of the player base and the gaps in WotCs product line. But the vocal supporters of the third party publishing scene are those that have no desire to play 4e. So either way I think a third party publisher can stay in business by supporting either edition.

The big question is this - will OGL gaming still be big enough to support a third party publisher three, five, and ten years down the road?

If past experience is a decent predictor of future trends the OGL audience will shrink over time.

BTW - I would have voted for 4e but I can't login, and when I do login the forums do not recognize that I am logged in.


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
And frankly I'm amazed by the relatively light support for 4e in the votes.

By the way friend, when is Zobeck ready and shipping ?

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

Stereofm wrote:
By the way friend, when is Zobeck ready and shipping ?

The Tales of Zobeck are currently in final edits, with the Gazetteer gone to layout. So, at least 3 weeks out. After Halloween, I'd guess.


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
And frankly I'm amazed by the relatively light support for 4e in the votes.

I wanted to vote 3E, but the KQ boards and I seem to be having issues. So until I can get those worked out, please add +1 to the 3E votes.

While I'm thinking of it, I'd love to see you do a classic-era CoC.

-The Gneech

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

crosswiredmind wrote:

If past experience is a decent predictor of future trends the OGL audience will shrink over time.

BTW - I would have voted for 4e but I can't login, and when I do login the forums do not recognize that I am logged in.

Entirely possible that the OGL/3E audience will shrink. At the moment, though, it is larger than the 4E audience, at least for patron adventures.

Oh, and I think the login issue has now been fixed. Go vote!


I've been watching the voting and I noticed that X edition is going up in streaks, back and forth, are people able to vote multiple times because this seems really inconsistent.


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
crosswiredmind wrote:

If past experience is a decent predictor of future trends the OGL audience will shrink over time.

BTW - I would have voted for 4e but I can't login, and when I do login the forums do not recognize that I am logged in.

Entirely possible that the OGL/3E audience will shrink. At the moment, though, it is larger than the 4E audience, at least for patron adventures.

Oh, and I think the login issue has now been fixed. Go vote!

ACK! Still cannot login.

Yep - the 3e audience will gravitate towards the small scale, high quality third party publishers. I believe it will stay strong for a while but only time will tell if it is truly sustainable.


I cant log in myself. it logs me out if I try to go to the forums

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Modules Subscriber)

I've been denied the privilege of logging on also, for the past three days. Mails sent to webmaster, but no response yet.

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
I've been watching the voting and I noticed that X edition is going up in streaks, back and forth, are people able to vote multiple times because this seems really inconsistent.

Nope, people can vote just once.

I suspect the reason it is inconsistent is that the posts here or at ENWorld or whereever bring groups of voters in on one side or the other.


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