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By the way, I saw you played Kent in a production of King Lear. That is a fantastic show and a great role. I had the opporutnity to play Edmund in a local production. One of the best experiences of my life.
Ha! I'm married and all, but I AM in theatre, so gay is just one step away! :-)
They're producing Lear at the local university here where I live in April. Sadly I wasn't cast, but at the same time, it's a relief. Always did have trouble with the Shakespeare.
Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
I'm a Shakespeare nut! Lear is one of my favorites! Okay back to me being gay, and perhaps even more scandalous...a 4E freelancer. ;-)
... only if it can summon the pie and ice cream golems as well.4E has Kool-Aid? And titties!? I swear, if I find out it has cake too, I'll be breaking down my LGS's door at midnight of release day.Can I interest you in the delicious new cake golem?
I'm with that. Pie and ice cream Golems >>>>>> cake Golems.
Plus Hot Apple Pie Golems have that cool Special Ability where you stab them and superheated fruit filling spurts out for 2d8 damage. Can't beat that! Cake Golems are all soft and spongy, and their special attack to get frosting on you? Yawn.
I find it... funny (both in the haha sense, but also in the funny-strange sense) that one of Paizo's lead freelancers has been doing playtesting of the new rules, while Paizo, as a company, hasn't been able to get even a glimpse of the rules until very recently.
Actually, we *still* haven't been given the rules. Or, for that matter, the OGL.
I'm a Shakespeare nut! Lear is one of my favorites! Okay back to me being gay, and perhaps even more scandalous...a 4E freelancer. ;-)By the way, I saw you played Kent in a production of King Lear. That is a fantastic show and a great role. I had the opporutnity to play Edmund in a local production. One of the best experiences of my life.
Ha! I'm married and all, but I AM in theatre, so gay is just one step away! :-)
They're producing Lear at the local university here where I live in April. Sadly I wasn't cast, but at the same time, it's a relief. Always did have trouble with the Shakespeare.
Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
Oh, I love Shakespeare, don't get me wrong. But doing Shakespeares plays have always kicked my can. I would have loved to have been in Lear, and if enough people drop out I might get a call, I've a reputation for being willing to step in such cases. But doing the show is (as you well know) A LOT of work, so it's a relief in that regards. I'm very excited to see this production. VERY excited!
Back to the thread:
Here's a question Nick, hopefully general enough that you can answer. You state you love the DMG, and it's one of the best RPG books you've read: are there things in the new DMG - advice on gming, general things having to do with running a game - that are well written and useful enough that somebody who doesn't play 4th edition could make use of in another edition, or another game entirely? I understand there are going to be mechanics in the book, but are the none mechanic portions golden and generic enough that i'd find them useful while running 3rd edition (or even 2nd edition)
I find it... funny (both in the haha sense, but also in the funny-strange sense) that one of Paizo's lead freelancers has been doing playtesting of the new rules, while Paizo, as a company, hasn't been able to get even a glimpse of the rules until very recently.Actually, we *still* haven't been given the rules. Or, for that matter, the OGL.
I think you mean GSL don't you Vic...the changes...they come at us so fast and furious now.
are there things in the new DMG - advice on gming, general things having to do with running a game - that are well written and useful enough that somebody who doesn't play 4th edition could make use of in another edition, or another game entirely? I understand there are going to be mechanics in the book, but are the none mechanic portions golden and generic enough that i'd find them useful while running 3rd edition (or even 2nd edition)
I would say yes to this. I enjoyed reading it, found tons of useful information in it that I will bring to my 3.5 games.
are there things in the new DMG - advice on gming, general things having to do with running a game - that are well written and useful enough that somebody who doesn't play 4th edition could make use of in another edition, or another game entirely? I understand there are going to be mechanics in the book, but are the none mechanic portions golden and generic enough that i'd find them useful while running 3rd edition (or even 2nd edition)I would say yes to this. I enjoyed reading it, found tons of useful information in it that I will bring to my 3.5 games.
Thanks for the response Nick. That's something to ponder. I've had issues with some of the mechanics that have been rumored at. I've had huge issues with a lot the fluff that has been cut (this is one of the two big sour spots for me). That being said, there are a lot of things the designers over at Wizards have done that I've enjoyed quite a bit in the past, and if they can create something that is useful, not just for 4th edition, but in any edition I choose to run, then all the better.
I'll definitely take my time perusing the DMG over when it comes out.
Hey Rodney, while we have you on the line, is there anything you can say about this situation:
I find it... funny (both in the haha sense, but also in the funny-strange sense) that one of Paizo's lead freelancers has been doing playtesting of the new rules, while Paizo, as a company, hasn't been able to get even a glimpse of the rules until very recently.Actually, we *still* haven't been given the rules. Or, for that matter, the OGL.
I think I speak for a lot of people on these boards when I say that having Paizo support your product could make a huge difference in the success of 4e, at least among this community. This thread shows how much influence the Paizo people have; the endorsement of Nick Logue means something to a lot of people here. The endorsement of Erik, James, and the rest of the Paizo crew would mean even more. I realize there are issues with the game rules not being complete, but can't you guys at least get a playtest version to them so they can at least make up their minds and start prepping?
I doubt you have much influence over this issue and it's likely you can't respond, but I feel obligated to ask this question given that you are the most official correspondence this community has received in a long time (actually, the most offical correspondence ever).
Hey Rodney, while we have you on the line, is there anything you can say about this situation:
I find it... funny (both in the haha sense, but also in the funny-strange sense) that one of Paizo's lead freelancers has been doing playtesting of the new rules, while Paizo, as a company, hasn't been able to get even a glimpse of the rules until very recently.Actually, we *still* haven't been given the rules. Or, for that matter, the OGL.I think I speak for a lot of people on these boards when I say that having Paizo support your product could make a huge difference in the success of 4e, at least among this community. This thread shows how much influence the Paizo people have; the endorsement of Nick Logue means something to a lot of people here. The endorsement of Erik, James, and the rest of the Paizo crew would mean even more. I realize there are issues with the game rules not being complete, but can't you guys at least get a playtest version to them so they can at least make up their minds and start prepping?
I doubt you have much influence over this issue and it's likely you can't respond, but I feel obligated to ask this question given that you are the most official correspondence this community has received in a long time (actually, the most offical correspondence ever).
What he said.
BTW, Sorry Nick for my previous post. I spoke in a mood of disappointment and ignored the fact that you have no control over the direction the market is moving. I was just perturbed that it seemed like 4E gets props from The Logue.
My post was reactionary and I erred in sounding off against you.
You will always have my respect and I understand that you do what it takes to get paid and release the Muse within. Keep on producing the stuff of legends and please don't let my off the cuff post effect your life in any manner or your decision to keep making disturbingly delicious adventures.
Please accept my apologies, the whole situation has me seeing things badly all around.
FH
Guys,
We appreciate the support, but I am confident WotC is doing everything they can to get the OGL and the new rules to people as fast as possible. Indeed the wheels are already turning on this (if a bit slowly), and I am POSITIVE Rodney Thompson has absolutely no control over the speed at which this happens.
We're waiting patiently (sometimes a bit impatiently), but this thing is going to move at the speed it's moving, and everyone is doing their best to make it happen swiftly.
Guys,
We appreciate the support, but I am confident WotC is doing everything they can to get the OGL and the new rules to people as fast as possible. Indeed the wheels are already turning on this (if a bit slowly), and I am POSITIVE Rodney Thompson has absolutely no control over the speed at which this happens.
We're waiting patiently (sometimes a bit impatiently), but this thing is going to move at the speed it's moving, and everyone is doing their best to make it happen swiftly.
What can I say - I am not nearly so patient. We've got someone's ear at WotC, something that almost never happens here. As a fan of WotC and Paizo, this is an issue of some importance to me. I realize that Rodney probably has zero control over the speed at which it happens, but when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. There is one person who works at WotC that has even a marginal chance of reading anything I write, it's the only line of communication that is open.
And, as this thread shows, what Paizo (and its regular freelancers) think of 4e is a big deal to this community.
So, it's not just for your sake that I want the new rules in your hands. It's for my sake and the sake of everyone else on this board who is tired of being in limbo.
I must say Mister Logue, I greatly appreciate your work and respect your <positive> opinion of the new game. I know that hearing such from you has definitely given me a balm to rub on my major $$$$ wound inflicted by the change of editions.
Although I intended on buying and looking through the first three books originally, maybe now I can focus on one book in particular in order to get some of the yummy-ness you talk about.
By the way, it seems that your adventure for the Hook-Mountain Massacre was so over-the-top that it had to be pared down some before it could be published. If this is the case, I'd pay good money to see what was on the original manuscript.
What is with bringing up the-Pett monster to the good Master Logue? Some of you have sullied this fine thread.
Shame!
:^D
FW
BTW, Sorry Nick for my previous post. I spoke in a mood of disappointment and ignored the fact that you have no control over the direction the market is moving. I was just perturbed that it seemed like 4E gets props from The Logue.
My post was reactionary and I erred in sounding off against you.
You will always have my respect and I understand that you do what it takes to get paid and release the Muse within. Keep on producing the stuff of legends and please don't let my off the cuff post effect your life in any manner or your decision to keep making disturbingly delicious adventures.
Please accept my apologies, the whole situation has me seeing things badly all around.FH
Fakey! I love you! I always will! No, I really wasn't insulted. It's true the market is a strange beast and I, as a mere freelancer, go where it leads...or even just meanders for a time.
I wouldn't read TOO much into me working on 4E products. I work on loads of stuff. Most of it is still 3.5, and as long as people keep asking me to work on 3.5, I'll continue doing so. I love 3.5, and I think it's a great game...there's nothing "wrong" with it in my opinion. I still play it every week.
Honestly, I think 4E will come down to a matter of taste for many people. I think loads of people will really like it. There are a lot of things I do like about it too. Then again, there's a lot of stuff I like about 3.5 too. S&#@, I still play TSR Marvel Superheroes, and Ninjas and Superspies man. I like games. Different flavors for different occasions I always say.
As for what I write, though...I'm just one man. The only way I could have more power is if I became a publishing mega-king. Not likely, but then again, you never know what the future may bring.
I still play TSR Marvel Superheroes ...This is one of the most under-appreciated games ever! I had an X-Men campaign that ran for like three years. Fantastic system.
Darn. Now I have to go dig it out and read it again.
I run it at least once a month. It's my favorite RPG hands down. 3.5 and 4E can't even touch it. Talk about streamlined combat! Talk about unabated badassery! I love the ole Marvel Superheroes game. If I had it my way, I would ONLY freelance for this game. And my adventures would friggin rock.
I doubt you have much influence over this issue and it's likely you can't respond, but I feel obligated to ask this question given that you are the most official correspondence this community has received in a long time (actually, the most offical correspondence ever).
I'm sorry, that's completely outside of the realm of my responsibility and knowledge. Us R&D folk don't have much influence on such things, especially since my primary responsibility is Star Wars.
I used to play the crap out of Marvel Super-Heroes.
I loved how all of the street maps linked up, and the little tri-fold cardboard miniatures were great!
Let 'er (FASE)RIP!
You'll play the crap out of it again soon, if I ever get my ass up to Seattle for another visit! I brought a Marvel adventure with me last time I was in town (in October), but we never got down on it!
Rodney got to play it though! Didn't you Rodney? Errrherrrmmm!
Don't worry Erik. Next time I'm in town, perhaps you shall don the role of the Green Mantis, or Steelcore, or Basiton, or any other of the Stormguard! Yeah, those are some of the "stars" of my one-man traveling Marvel show, Beijing to Broadway baby, we do three shows a night, no problem.
Ah, the simpler days eh, Erik, when you could play with those little tri-fold cardboard minis and not even be concerned that new editions might come along and throw the world into a maelstrom. That's one of my favorite reasons for playing Marvel - utter, utter escape from it all.
I think I'm gonna organize a wee game for Sunday.
You'll play the crap out of it again soon, if I ever get my ass up to Seattle for another visit! I brought a Marvel adventure with me last time I was in town (in October), but we never got down on it!Rodney got to play it though! Didn't you Rodney? Errrherrrmmm!
I did, and we had a blast. If I don't get invited to the sequel game, there will be blood...or just b#&*#ing, one of the two.
I'm sorry, that's completely outside of the realm of my responsibility and knowledge. Us R&D folk don't have much influence on such things, especially since my primary responsibility is Star Wars.
Maybe if you see them in the elevator, or walking down the hall.
"Hi Rodney how's it going?"
"Great George, hey, by the way, you should really get those rules out to Paizo!"
"Uhh..."
"No, really, I mean it. Get back to your desk and get those rules to Paizo. They need them. Now!"
"But I really need to go to the bathroom..."
"Look, some random dude on the Paizo website asked me to push this forward and by golly, I'm not going to let him down. He strongly implied that he was the illigitimate offspring of Gary Gygax and whatever type of Demon a Marilith was back in First Edition. I don't want to piss him off."
See, that's easy enough, isn't it?
Thanks Rodney for what you've done. I really wish that people in those positions and in the marketing positions would come here and talk with us like you are doing. This direct line of communication makes a lot of these changes easier to accept. As I've said, I appreciate your posts on the thread so far and hope you are able to chime in more in the future.
Playing Marvel Superheroes wouldn't just be a Good experience, it would be Excellent! I would roll up an Amazing character with Incredible powers and perform Monstrous feats. It would be Remarkable to play such a game with a DM like Logue, who is most likely Unearthly in his ability to run a game.
(A Typical response, I know, but I hope it wasn't so Poor that you think me to be Feeble in thought).
I run it at least once a month. It's my favorite RPG hands down. 3.5 and 4E can't even touch it. Talk about streamlined combat! Talk about unabated badassery! I love the ole Marvel Superheroes game. If I had it my way, I would ONLY freelance for this game. And my adventures would friggin rock.I still play TSR Marvel Superheroes ...This is one of the most under-appreciated games ever! I had an X-Men campaign that ran for like three years. Fantastic system.
Darn. Now I have to go dig it out and read it again.
I ran an all villian game demo at my local game shop back in the day. It was awesome! I remember Juggenaut catching Wolverine in one of his cannon ball specials and throwing him at Prof X completely wrecking his wheel chair.
I so love that game.
So, it's not just for your sake that I want the new rules in your hands. It's for my sake and the sake of everyone else on this board who is tired of being in limbo.OK. Fair enough, and well said.
But still, please be gentle with Rodney. :)
Oh we'll be gentle with Rodney...
FETCH... THE COMFY CHAIR!
Playing Marvel Superheroes wouldn't just be a Good experience, it would be Excellent! I would roll up an Amazing character with Incredible powers and perform Monstrous feats. It would be Remarkable to play such a game with a DM like Logue, who is most likely Unearthly in his ability to run a game.
(A Typical response, I know, but I hope it wasn't so Poor that you think me to be Feeble in thought).
::hands Sebastian a breath mint::
Playing Marvel Superheroes wouldn't just be a Good experience, it would be Excellent! I would roll up an Amazing character with Incredible powers and perform Monstrous feats. It would be Remarkable to play such a game with a DM like Logue, who is most likely Unearthly in his ability to run a game.
(A Typical response, I know, but I hope it wasn't so Poor that you think me to be Feeble in thought).
Beautiful man, beautiful.
Hell yeah......Marvel Super-Heroes and Top Secret!
I wish I had people around me interested in those 2 games... (sniff)
We do have a Top Secret/S.I. thread running under the Other RPG's section. I know it isn't exactly the original game but the intent is there. Feel free to drop by if you haven't already.
We do have a Top Secret/S.I. thread running under the Other RPG's section. I know it isn't exactly the original game but the intent is there. Feel free to drop by if you haven't already.Hell yeah......Marvel Super-Heroes and Top Secret!
I wish I had people around me interested in those 2 games... (sniff)
Cool beans!!!!
I did, and we had a blast. If I don't get invited to the sequel game, there will be blood...or just b@~#&ing, one of the two.
You'll play the crap out of it again soon, if I ever get my ass up to Seattle for another visit! I brought a Marvel adventure with me last time I was in town (in October), but we never got down on it!Rodney got to play it though! Didn't you Rodney? Errrherrrmmm!
I'm hoping a lot of both!
I'll see if I can rustle up me some sequel action this year...maybe to the Eberron game too...but that'll have to be 3.5. ;-)
I run it at least once a month. It's my favorite RPG hands down. 3.5 and 4E can't even touch it. Talk about streamlined combat! Talk about unabated badassery! I love the ole Marvel Superheroes game. If I had it my way, I would ONLY freelance for this game. And my adventures would friggin rock.
In between D&D campaigns, my old high school RPG group would play what I called "Marvel Team-Up: Staring The Punisher." One player would be Punisher, everyone else would pick relatively "equal" heroes, and then we started counting down to when Punisher "nuked" everyone's karma by killing someone . . .
Ah . . . good times.
I also loved the "Cosmic" trilogy of adventures.
And the funniest thing is...right at this moment...4E seems a thousand years away.
Nick just wants to know what somebody...ANYBODY...thought of Hangman's Noose.
Random tangent: Sheeple is maybe the funniest word ever, I can't even imagine a word that makes me chuckle more. It might even beat out ridicuf~*@ and that's some good word!
I run it at least once a month. It's my favorite RPG hands down. 3.5 and 4E can't even touch it. Talk about streamlined combat! Talk about unabated badassery! I love the ole Marvel Superheroes game. If I had it my way, I would ONLY freelance for this game. And my adventures would friggin rock.
I Nicolas,
It's probably to much to ask, but is there any way you could show us a few (short) Marvel Superheroes adventures you wrote for you own games (if any)? It should be very interesting to take a look at your unique writing style in a super-heroic genre instead of DnD... No need to wait for freelance work... We will repay you with praise and eternel gratitude! :-)
And the funniest thing is...right at this moment...4E seems a thousand years away.
Nick just wants to know what somebody...ANYBODY...thought of Hangman's Noose.
Random tangent: Sheeple is maybe the funniest word ever, I can't even imagine a word that makes me chuckle more. It might even beat out ridicuf%#~ and that's some good word!
I haven't been able to find any of your gamemastery mod's at the bookstore, although I've found most of the others as well as all 5 of the Pathfinder books out so far, so I might have to (gasp) order them on this computer thingy.
Still, I hope that says something, i.e. that they're selling well. I want the circus one with the evil clown on the cover. I like evil clowns.
The DMG This is quite frankly the best book on roleplaying I've read in my entire life. It is titties.
I am coming in late to the discussion(like always), but I REALLY like titties. So if a book can be comparable to these great gifts of nature(well some of them are from nature), then I might have to check it out. I just hope that Nick realizes how high of a standard he has set for the DMG to live up to. I mean, titties?? This better be good :)