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SHE'S WEARING A f*#~ING MINOR THREAT T-SHIRT! WHAT THE f*#~!?
Shiny, I hate to break it to you, but punk died as an attitude and became a fashion accessory before you were born (I'm assuming you were born in the late '80s).
And Xabulba, um, Goth Punk was for pussies too. Just sayin'.
Edit: And I'm with Heathy, who the f!#~ is that, anyway, and why should I care?
My girlfriend said she saw the guy from Twilight wearing a painted leather with The Subhumans on it, so umm.... yeah, it seems there's a trend there that I don't like.
I don't care for it much, either. Especially when a girl wearing a Specials shirt (I presume from Hot Topic) came into the deli I manage and asked who performed the song that was playing (we run my mp3 player through the system, radio sucks).
The band playing? Yeah, it was The Specials.
The funniest thing about that shirt is that Ian MacKaye HATES merchandising!So then he had kids, and braces, and college, right?
Nope, still kidless as far as I know. He played a friend on mine's bar earlier this year with his wife, and was still pretty much a self righteous ass when he hung out with us afterward.
Eh.
My girlfriend said she saw the guy from Twilight wearing a painted leather with The Subhumans on it, so umm.... yeah, it seems there's a trend there that I don't like.I don't care for it much, either. Especially when a girl wearing a Specials shirt (I presume from Hot Topic) came into the deli I manage and asked who performed the song that was playing (we run my mp3 player through the system, radio sucks).
The band playing? Yeah, it was The Specials.
Heh. Nice.
The funniest thing about that shirt is that Ian MacKaye HATES merchandising!So then he had kids, and braces, and college, right?Nope, still kidless as far as I know. He played a friend on mine's bar earlier this year with his wife, and was still pretty much a self righteous ass when he hung out with us afterward.
Eh.
I just wikied him; he had a kid last year. ;)
Shiny, I hate to break it to you, but punk died as an attitude and became a fashion accessory before you were born (I'm assuming you were born in the late '80s).
That's bull and you know it. Just because the mainstream has taken the "look" and made it sale-able doesn't mean that there aren't "real punks" out there, you just can't tell them by their clothes anymore.
The funniest thing about that shirt is that Ian MacKaye HATES merchandising!
I don't know if this is fact, but I wouldn't be surprised. I've heard that any Minor Threat merch you buy (other then the Discography CD of course, since that is from Dischord) is all unlicensed.
That Minor Threat shirt you bought from Hot Topic, yeah, the band didn't get anything for it, nor were they okay with it being there.
Shiny, I hate to break it to you, but punk died as an attitude and became a fashion accessory before you were born (I'm assuming you were born in the late '80s).That's bull and you know it. Just because the mainstream has taken the "look" and made it sale-able doesn't mean that there aren't "real punks" out there, you just can't tell them by their clothes anymore.
Here's my philosophy: Punk is something that happened in the '70s and early '80s. These kids need to go do their own thing. Do something original. STOP RETREADING THE PAST.
An, yes, I've seen some decent punk style bands lately. I've also seen some decent hippy style bands and some decent cock rock style bands. What I haven't seen are any ORIGINAL bands (I guess Muse and Mars Volta may be the closest to original stuff I've heard, but I haven't seen them live yet).
Punk wasn't a musical style, it was an attitude bred from the times it originated in. Kids now are aping a style. Period. Putting on costumes and playing fast.
Whoop-de-doo.
Why not? Is Ian a vegetarian? I know he dropped the edge thing years ago.Wow, didn't know that!
Poor kid, he'll never know the sublime wonders of the cheeseburger and beer combo...
Still doesn't drink, still doesn't smoke, still doesn't do drugs, eats a Vegan diet. What, exactly, do you mean by "dropped the edge thing"? He was never "edge", he never meant there to BE "edge". HE just wrote a couple of songs about how HE lives, not about how anyone else should live.
Funny thing about him is, as big a prick as he is (really), he doesn't push his s#!* on other people.
The funniest thing about that shirt is that Ian MacKaye HATES merchandising!I don't know if this is fact, but I wouldn't be surprised. I've heard that any Minor Threat merch you buy (other then the Discography CD of course, since that is from Dischord) is all unlicensed.
That Minor Threat shirt you bought from Hot Topic, yeah, the band didn't get anything for it, nor were they okay with it being there.
He refused to play one night in Dallas (Fugazi show I went to) because a bunch of kids were wearing Fugazi tee shirts. Tee shirts Dischord didn't make.
Wasted ten bucks on a ticket, but didn't blame him for bailing.
Shiny, I hate to break it to you, but punk died as an attitude and became a fashion accessory before you were born (I'm assuming you were born in the late '80s).That's bull and you know it. Just because the mainstream has taken the "look" and made it sale-able doesn't mean that there aren't "real punks" out there, you just can't tell them by their clothes anymore.
Punk died around the time that Johnny and the boys were signing contracts with EMI (that's 1976, to save you a trip to wikipedia). I know a lot of people would like to believe otherwise, but everything else since has been about fashion. Sorry.
Shiny, I hate to break it to you, but punk died as an attitude and became a fashion accessory before you were born (I'm assuming you were born in the late '80s).That's bull and you know it. Just because the mainstream has taken the "look" and made it sale-able doesn't mean that there aren't "real punks" out there, you just can't tell them by their clothes anymore.
Here's my philosophy: Punk is something that happened in the '70s and early '80s. These kids need to go do their own thing. Do something original. STOP RETREADING THE PAST.
An, yes, I've seen some decent punk style bands lately. I've also seen some decent hippy style bands and some decent c*#@ rock style bands. What I haven't seen are any ORIGINAL bands (I guess Muse and Mars Volta may be the closest to original stuff I've heard, but I haven't seen them live yet).
Punk wasn't a musical style, it was an attitude bred from the times it originated in. Kids now are aping a style. Period. Putting on costumes and playing fast.
Whoop-de-doo.
It's not the past when it never went away.
As far as I can figure, punk is taking what makes sense to you, discarding everything that doesn't, living your own life, and refusing to just let anyone tell you what to do.
It existed before there was a name for it, and it will exist long after the music and the clothes are forgotten.
As for "aping a style" what do you think all those kids back then were doing? The Ramones were trying to ape old pop/rock, Social Distortion aped blues and country, etc. As for the style, it's merely an amalgation of all the subcultures and outsider art movements that came before (and since).
You want original, recent punk, try The Refused or Zegota, or From the Depths, His Hero is Gone, the first Dresden Dolls album, and many many others.
You wanna be a crochety old codger and say all the kids these days are posers, go right ahead, I know what I see, and I see my truth, punk never died, it just got buried in s%@#. But we're still down here.
Huh. I'd heard they had never dropped the whole $5 show thing. Whatever, in this day and age, $10 is probably about the same as $5 was worth back in the mid 80's.
Wasted ten bucks on a ticket, but didn't blame him for bailing.
Nah, bought the ticket from a broker, game time decision for a sold out show. This was in '94, actually.
Why not? Is Ian a vegetarian? I know he dropped the edge thing years ago.Wow, didn't know that!
Poor kid, he'll never know the sublime wonders of the cheeseburger and beer combo...
Still doesn't drink, still doesn't smoke, still doesn't do drugs, eats a Vegan diet. What, exactly, do you mean by "dropped the edge thing"? He was never "edge", he never meant there to BE "edge". HE just wrote a couple of songs about how HE lives, not about how anyone else should live.
Funny thing about him is, as big a prick as he is (really), he doesn't push his s!&% on other people.
Really? Interviews I've read of his he's said he was presenting an option, an option he called straight edge. He never meant for it to be any more or less of an option then fashion or anti-fashion, dying your hair or not, spikes or safety pins, punk or metal. Nothing to push on other people, nothing to fight about. That's why he "dropped" it, because people were taking it too seriously.
Whether that's how it really was or not, that has been the information that I have read on the subject.
Here’s some real punk for you;
FU old people!, anyone who grew up and survived punk aren’t real punks because you grew up and joined the society you were rebelling against. Punk is a state of mind not a narrowly defined type of music and FU for trying to make it that way.
The punk bands you remember from your rebel youth can never happen again because those same bands that were giving the finger to the establishment are now owned and promoted by the establishment and you have become the establishment. Any band you listen to that doesn’t measure up to your youthful ideas of punk is punk because punk is the discarded and spurned music of the young and now you are old you no longer understand this.
Here’s some real punk for you;
FU old people!, anyone who grew up and survived punk aren’t real punks because you grew up and joined the society you were rebelling against. Punk is a state of mind not a narrowly defined type of music and FU for trying to make it that way.
The punk bands you remember from your rebel youth can never happen again because those same bands that were giving the finger to the establishment are now owned and promoted by the establishment and you have become the establishment. Any band you listen to that doesn’t measure up to your youthful ideas of punk is punk because punk is the discarded and spurned music of the young and now you are old you no longer understand this.
I'll one up you!!!
FU kids!!!The old punk died because the majority of them grew up and learned enough to figure out they were wrong. The next generation, as always, just repeats the same mistakes of ignorance until eventually, most of them stop being ignorant.
True punk always fails. Most punks are just too young to understand it.
Here’s some real punk for you;
FU old people!, anyone who grew up and survived punk aren’t real punks because you grew up and joined the society you were rebelling against. Punk is a state of mind not a narrowly defined type of music and FU for trying to make it that way.
The punk bands you remember from your rebel youth can never happen again because those same bands that were giving the finger to the establishment are now owned and promoted by the establishment and you have become the establishment. Any band you listen to that doesn’t measure up to your youthful ideas of punk is punk because punk is the discarded and spurned music of the young and now you are old you no longer understand this.
Heh. Cute. The reality is this:
Nothing new under the sun. The problem isn't digging the style or the music, the problem is thinking y'all are doing something other than aping the past. Do. Your. Own. Thing. And stop with the whiny vocals. And, please, do without all of the niceties "the establishment" have provided you, like your parents' money, I-pods, and the computer you're telling us old school dudes to "FU" on. Also, um, stop being so one-sided about who's evil in government. Jello Biafra, for example, didn't care about the (d) or the (r), if you were a pol, you were a pos, period.
Shiny, I hate to break it to you, but punk died as an attitude and became a fashion accessory before you were born (I'm assuming you were born in the late '80s).That's bull and you know it. Just because the mainstream has taken the "look" and made it sale-able doesn't mean that there aren't "real punks" out there, you just can't tell them by their clothes anymore.
Oh, believe me, it is bull. I was definitely exaggerating with the thread title. Still, it pissed me off.