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Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

The new, Robert Rodriguez produced film - Anyone else looking forward to this?

Here's a piece that I found on SciFiWire....

Predators

The video has some pretty cool bits, and shows a couple of the human stars: Adrian Brody, Lawrence Fishburne, Topher Grace.

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

Topher Grace gets killed? I'm in.

Honestly, as I've said elsewhere, I think is is to Predator what Aliens was to Alien.

That or it is 'A Predator and his dog' from the pictures I've seen.


Looks decent!

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32)

Definitely looking forward to this. Wired had a nice article and an official clip - that doesn't work because of "copyright violations" - seems like the lawyers are scuppering the promotion department again.


I am cautiously optimistic.

After the Aliens vs. Predator thing (and the last few Aliens movies), I should probably not get my hopes up, but still...

Cheliax (Bella Sara Charter Superscriber)

Why don't you have a seat over there...

Spoiler:

Wait...was that the right predator?


Sebastian wrote:

Why don't you have a seat over there...

** spoiler omitted **

Watch it or we will get the Pope to totally ignore you and what you were trying to do there.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Honestly, as I've said elsewhere, I think is is to Predator what Aliens was to Alien.

Careful there. Lots of films look great before they hit the screen. You're setting yourself up for a disappointment.

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

Wolfthulhu wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Honestly, as I've said elsewhere, I think is is to Predator what Aliens was to Alien.

Careful there. Lots of films look great before they hit the screen. You're setting yourself up for a disappointment.

Married twice, remember? I'm used to disappointment.

I meant in the plot sense. From what I saw, it's not the Predator coming to visit, it's the humans going there. Kind of like how in Alien, the Xenomorph got on the ship, and in Aliens they went to the planet.

Funny thing? I acutally enjoy Predator II more, I think in part because unlike most monster movie sequels, the good guys learned from the first movie (sure it didn't help them, but they at least took notes)


Matthew Morris wrote:
Funny thing? I acutally enjoy Predator II more, I think in part because unlike most monster movie sequels, the good guys learned from the first movie (sure it didn't help them, but they at least took notes)

That's a rare opinion, and I'm there with ya on liking the second movie as much as, if not more than, the first. I liked the interactions, such as they were, between the Predator and Danny Glover's character. 'Danny boy...' And it was neat to see that the Predator was going after drug-cartel 'soldiers' and cops and the like, instead of elite commando teams, which made it feel a little more down-to-earth (and made it scarier, since cops generally aren't carrying vulcan machine guns as hand weapons).

Predator 2, was to Predator 1 what Aliens 1 was to Aliens 2, if that makes any sense.

I'm also a sucker for Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, and seeing the flayed bodies of a half-dozen cartel enforcers hanging upside down in one of his classic apartments (also seen in The Thirteenth Floor, among other places) was priceless. :)


I'm really looking forward to this one.

Qadira (Paizo Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Funny, no one has mentioned AVP 2. Talk about a low budget feel of a letdown. Disgust factor was pretty high however, injecting aliens into expecting mother fetuses...so wrong.


Zuxius wrote:
Funny, no one has mentioned AVP 2. Talk about a low budget feel of a letdown. Disgust factor was pretty high however, injecting aliens into expecting mother fetuses...so wrong.

Wow, I didn't even know that there was an AvP 2! AvP 1 was bad enough, I guess, that I probably would have skipped it anyway.

So far the only Aliens vs. Predator stories worth a damn have come out of the Dark Horse comics of that name.


All I got to say is Machete, Mo-Fos! I want to see Machete take a machete to some predator pet beasty.

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Aberzombie wrote:
The new, Robert Rodriguez produced film - Anyone else looking forward to this?

Ummm.... no.

Certainly not after the AvP fiasco(s) and even the later Alien movies.

(The movie will need to be released - and reviewed heavily - before I bother turning my attention to it again.)

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

pres man wrote:
All I got to say is Machete, Mo-Fos! I want to see Machete take a machete to some predator pet beasty.

That's one of the characters I'm looking forward to.


I was not disappointed* by this movie. Of the predator movies, I would place it at Number 2.

Number 1: Predator
Number 2: Predators
Number 3: Predator 2
Number 4: Alien vs. Predator
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.
Number 97: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem

*Machete was using machine guns and not a machete, so that was a bit disappointing, but then again the preview for the Machete movie made up for it.

Andoran (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber)

pres man wrote:
*Machete was using machine guns and not a machete, so that was a bit disappointing, but then again the preview for the Machete movie made up for it.

'

Poor Danny Trejo. No one ever calls him by his real name anymore.

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber)

I really enjoyed it. I was skeptical and didn't have any real expectations, but hoped it would at least be enjoyable.

It was actually pretty good. Much better than AVP2. If you liked the original you should like this one!

And let me second the notion that seeing the trailer for Machete was quite a bonus!

(RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16)

Movie was decent.

For both Aliens and Predator, the whole Aliens vs Predator shtick that has been expounded upon in comics for the last 20 years is now ruled "non-core" and not part of the universe.

Aliens are now human-made biological weapons, not true aliens, and definitely not planted on multiple worlds by Predators to hunt.

Movie ended with a note of hopelessness...more Predators and their pets parachuting in. The humans won, but that just made them better prey to the Predators coming in to bag them.

==Aelryinth

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32)

Robert Little wrote:
pres man wrote:
*Machete was using machine guns and not a machete, so that was a bit disappointing, but then again the preview for the Machete movie made up for it.

'

Poor Danny Trejo. No one ever calls him by his real name anymore.

I do. :)

First thing I said when I saw him was awesome Danny Trejo (I didn't know he was in it, so it was a nice surprise)!

Spoiler:
It was a shame he was the first to die though :(

We didn't get the preview for Machete though here in Australia. :(

I liked the movie, but didn't think it was brilliant or anything. A good but standard Sci-Fi shoot-em up with Alien Protagonists.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Aelryinth wrote:

Movie was decent.

Aliens are now human-made biological weapons, not true aliens,

Doesn't that kind of invalidate the name then?

(RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16)

Kevin Mack wrote:
Aelryinth wrote:

Movie was decent.

Aliens are now human-made biological weapons, not true aliens,
Doesn't that kind of invalidate the name then?

Shh. Don't go injecting common sense into the kooky director's history re-write.

==Aelryinth


Wat.

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

Aelryinth wrote:

Movie was decent.

For both Aliens and Predator, the whole Aliens vs Predator shtick that has been expounded upon in comics for the last 20 years is now ruled "non-core" and not part of the universe.

Aliens are now human-made biological weapons, not true aliens, and definitely not planted on multiple worlds by Predators to hunt.

Movie ended with a note of hopelessness...more Predators and their pets parachuting in. The humans won, but that just made them better prey to the Predators coming in to bag them.

==Aelryinth

Until Darkhorse, I always thought the Aliens (from 1-3) were bioweapons. They can't reproduce w/o a host, and they're pretty much deadly to anything. Seed a planet with a dozen of the buggers, wait 5 years, nice fresh new planet with nothing larger than an insect. The aliens all die off, and you're set. The Giant in the first movie was part of the race that created them. Unfortuantely one got loose...


Anyone else seen this yet? I watched it last weekend and It. Was. Great!

In my mind, this is the only sequel to the original movie. And AVP? What's that?

Honestly P2, AVP and AVP:R had their fun bits, but as far as good story goes. Predator >> Predators. That's all you need.

Lots of nods to the original film, including bits of the theme music and the end credits roll to Long Tall Sally. :^D

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Wolfthulhu wrote:

Anyone else seen this yet? I watched it last weekend and It. Was. Great!

In my mind, this is the only sequel to the original movie. And AVP? What's that?

Honestly P2, AVP and AVP:R had their fun bits, but as far as good story goes. Predator >> Predators. That's all you need.

Lots of nods to the original film, including bits of the theme music and the end credits roll to Long Tall Sally. :^D

well I'm eager to see Predators, but I will never accept anything said by anyone who doesn't like predator 2, predator 2 was an awesome movie, and a great successor, and one of my favorite films. I hope predators makes for a great trilogy.

Andoran (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber)

lastknightleft wrote:
well I'm eager to see Predators, but I will never accept anything said by anyone who doesn't like predator 2, predator 2 was an awesome movie, and a great successor, and one of my favorite films. I hope predators makes for a great trilogy.

Predators is a great sequel to Predator, but if you are trying to think of it in terms of being a trilogy, it isn't. It doesn't address or acknowledge Predator 2 at all, unless somehow Lawrence Fishburne is supposed to be playing a genetically de-aged Danny Glover.

I too really liked Predator 2 and don't think it deserves the poo-pooing it gets, but eh, whatever.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Robert Little wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
well I'm eager to see Predators, but I will never accept anything said by anyone who doesn't like predator 2, predator 2 was an awesome movie, and a great successor, and one of my favorite films. I hope predators makes for a great trilogy.

Predators is a great sequel to Predator, but if you are trying to think of it in terms of being a trilogy, it isn't. It doesn't address or acknowledge Predator 2 at all, unless somehow Lawrence Fishburne is supposed to be playing a genetically de-aged Danny Glover.

I too really liked Predator 2 and don't think it deserves the poo-pooing it gets, but eh, whatever.

It doesn't have to, I didn't mean trilogy in the typical conjoined story sense, I just meant three great movies. From what I gather from the pre-quels, predators doesn't really have anything at all to tie it to any of the stories in the predators franchise, I mean is there anything that ties it to the original really?

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

AS for the AVP franchise, god they were both aweful, but in all honesty the second was better than the first, although once again both completely screwing up what was established in both franchises was pretty pathetic. In the first with it being set in the friggen artic, when it's established that the predators only go to places that are hot, the second with its 5 second incubation period for the aliens. They were both just junk better off ignored.


lastknightleft wrote:
It doesn't have to, I didn't mean trilogy in the typical conjoined story sense, I just meant three great movies. From what I gather from the pre-quels, predators doesn't really have anything at all to tie it to any of the stories in the predators franchise, I mean is there anything that ties it to the original really?

Predators has one of the characters reference the first movie, describing the report made by Arnold's character when he escaped the jungle. It also showed that the Predators learned from his masking of his bodyheat by developing sonar to detect the heartbeat of their prey.


lastknightleft wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:

Anyone else seen this yet? I watched it last weekend and It. Was. Great!

In my mind, this is the only sequel to the original movie. And AVP? What's that?

Honestly P2, AVP and AVP:R had their fun bits, but as far as good story goes. Predator >> Predators. That's all you need.

Lots of nods to the original film, including bits of the theme music and the end credits roll to Long Tall Sally. :^D

well I'm eager to see Predators, but I will never accept anything said by anyone who doesn't like predator 2, predator 2 was an awesome movie, and a great successor, and one of my favorite films. I hope predators makes for a great trilogy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

lastknightleft wrote:
AS for the AVP franchise, god they were both aweful, but in all honesty the second was better than the first.

I've said this regarding Revenge of the Sith as well as Wrath of the Dragon God: The fact that one of a series of crappy movies is slightly less crap than others, does NOT make it good.


I'm actually rather looking forward to this; I'm probably an aberration in that I liked both AvP movies. While not exactly well made, they were at least entertaining. I'll just need to rope some friends into seeing this for the evillulz.


I liked it much better than any of the others since the original.

They kept the plot nice and simple, which meant that while it wasn't going to win any awards, it wasn't going to win any anti-awards either. It was enough to keep me entertained.

One thing they got right here, that wasn't right in AVP or AVP 2, was that they kept things watchable by keeping it bright. My biggest complaint with AVP 2 was that you could hardly see what was going on in any of the action scenes, which certainly was not an issue here.

Plenty of action, some gore, a nice R rated monster movie.


Just saw it.

The movie needed to be way campier. Had a couple of laughs at the pileup of cliches and stereotypes, and ridiculous dialogue. Really, after the Laurence Fishburne bit, it screamed for a Nicolas Cage cameo.

Never clicked for me as an action movie, especially

Spoiler:
the scene with the two Predators fighting each other. Man, they are so clumsy and slow! Doesn't Nimrod Amtal know that often less is more?

I'm glad to have seen it on the big screen, but I can't say I enjoyed it much. Predator and Predator 2 are still light-years ahead, AFAIC.

Now to see Inception!


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