After looking over the feat I am going to have to say no. You are not yet a caster so can not befit from the feat. Once you gain spells we can revisit the feat

After looking over the feat I am going to have to say no. You are not yet a caster so can not befit from the feat. Once you gain spells we can revisit the feat

Presumably at level 5 he'll become a spellcaster and take the feat, though.

Not as a ranger. I am unsure of allowing a first level caster to cast as well as a 5th level one. I will give it some thought if he takes a caster class, but as of now I am not leaning toward it

I understand. My plan is to multi-class into wizard, my favored class by the way, until I qualify for Eldritch Knight.

Got ya , I may allow it later, but not sure on allowing it at level 1 wizard, it seems a bit off to me. Will give it some thought however

I understand. My plan is to multi-class into wizard, my favored class by the way, until I qualify for Eldritch Knight.

Having looked it over good and thought it over I will allow the feat

Dax

Dax

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I understand perfectly. We are, indeed, on the same page. If you still prefer, I can take it at 7th level, after I've been a mage for a couple of levels, rather than 5th level. It would suck, but it would also allow for some 'lead in' before hand.

ya can take it at first,just play it up as natural talent

Hey theree all sorry about the disappearing act, things should be more regular from here out. I'd love to play Thoven again, unless my spot has been filled.

If ya want ot still play him, go for it. Just don't vanish again. He needs updated to 4th level and he is about out of spells and down to 2 channels

Back online again as well.
Sorry, was out cold, pretty much.

Need to read up, but have work to do first. (First day at work again as well.)

Sorry,
Franz / Guard

Not an issue man, glad your better

So, our GM mentioned that we weren't too far away from level 5.
Upon thinking what to level Guard next, I decided it would be a level of Fighter again, for Bravery and hitpoints.

I'm going to retrain the unused Improved Shield Bash with Shield Focus, to add a bit more to the AC of our Shield.
As Fighter bonus feat for that level I am thinking Weapon Focus (warhammer).

That leaves a spot open for the 5th level feat. (Right, a new feat every other level! YAY!)

I am torn between some Pathfinder feats (foremost Dazzling Display and Defensive combat training) and some Book of Experimental Might feats (That Seeker needs to look over first though: Hamper Defense, Block, Macefighter...)

But I thought maybe one of you has a good Idea too, so here's the question: What would you think would fit Guard as 5th level feat?

I was thinking about the same sort of things for Finn (Dazzling Display or stuff from the BOXM); great minds think alike!

Out of the list you suggested, I'd go with Macefighter, I think.

Finn is going to take Action Surge at level 5. It's the poor man's Quicken Spell!

We could both go with Dazzling Display.

The 3 feats you listed from BoXm look fine

Finn: you like not rolling average?
Man, two fumbles, one critical, 3 times minimum, one time maximum damage...

he either sucks or annihilates things...no middle ground :)

Ha! I didn't even notice all the 1s I rolled. Good thing we're not playing with the Fumble deck!

ya can take it at first,just play it up as natural talent

OK, I do have the Magical Aptitude feat and the Minor Magic rogue trick already. Also, with your permission, I'll go ahead and choose my last language known as Riedran. I could have picked it up as a merchant or sailor.

Oh only if I owned one. I have a crit deck and had toyed with the ideal off somehow including it as it's so much fun

would be awesome... but how to integrate it?

Only thing I can think of is
1 I just drawl cards or
2 I go though it , pull off all the crits , number em and allow folks to roll.

Thats the only ways I can think of off hand. I do like the newer rules where if I am recalling right
x2= normal damage drawl a card
x3= x2 damage and drawl a card
x4= x3 damage and drawl a card

Only thing I can think of is

1 I just drawl cards or
2 I go though it , pull off all the crits , number em and allow folks to roll.

Thats the only ways I can think of off hand. I do like the newer rules where if I am recalling right
x2= normal damage drawl a card
x3= x2 damage and drawl a card
x4= x3 damage and drawl a card

I did the numbering for mine, haven't used it though.

I think it's:
x2= draw card and use written text
x3= draw card and when written "normal damage" = x2, when written "double damage" = x3,...
...

yeah I think thats it. The thing is way brutal but fun

Crit deck would be awesome (and fumble deck if you have it).

From a game point it would probably easier if we just trust you to draw them for us, so you can describe the effects straight away.

I have not seen the new rules, i am still using the old, *3 draw two cards and choose and *4 draw three cards and choose.

I have the old deck, but the new rules are in one of the previews on the product page, the decks themselves should be close enough I have had no issues using mine thus far

I've had some mixed experiences with critical fumbles. It sometimes feels like the Keystone Kops if someone ends up dropping a weapon or stabbing an ally every fight!

"Oops! Sorry....again." ;-)

i have never used the fumble deck, it is funny watching my players fight over who gets to drawl the crit cards when needed however

Just to make sure I got this right:
Normally a 1st level wizard gets a spellbook and an arcane bond item. Since I'm not starting out at 1st level as a wizard, I figure I need to proceed as thought I am replacing rather than starting with. A spellbook is 15gp,a spell component pouch 5gp, and an arcane bond item costs 200gp plus the cost of the item. The arcane bond also requires an 8 hour ritual. Writing the beginning allotment of spells into the spellbook will take about 13 hours and cost around 130gp. So, if I have it right, at next level I'll need at least 3 days, 350gp, and the cost of an amulet or ring. None of this takes into account any spells or paraphernalia I might get from the adventure or the party.

This is correct you foot the bill yourself. However if you have been studying(you have) and had a mentor in city that could help you in the downtime some of it you will not have to pay. In otherwords RPing will foot a good part of the bill

Also just to let everyone know how much downtime would you like. 3 months to a year is all doable with zero effort. So how much down time would you like? I am thinking at lest 3 months to do this or that before we move on

Right now the only wizard I know is Daurros. Maybe he can help me or at least point me to someone who can help. Daurros?

that is doable, however there are a few wizards in the city and even a wizard guild of a sort. We just need to work out how you learned as I am guessing you have been toying with it a bit buy your ability and such

I could have tutored with ship's mages, mages traveling with caravans, and while serving as a scout. If we are going to be taking some down time, I could easily join the local wizard's guild as well.

I could have tutored with ship's mages, mages traveling with caravans, and while serving as a scout. If we are going to be taking some down time, I could easily join the local wizard's guild as well.

From what I've heard, the next downtime should be around some months. Time enough.

Also just to let everyone know how much downtime would you like. 3 months to a year is all doable with zero effort. So how much down time would you like? I am thinking at lest 3 months to do this or that before we move on

Three months is plenty, I think. Otherwise, any unresolved mysteries (e.g. Who are those funny-speaking guys who are trying to kill us? Where is Vanthus?) might lose some of their urgency. (If you're going to resolve those mysteries, then never mind.)

By the way, are you using Bestiary monsters now, or are you still using the 3.5 Monster Manual? Just curious how worried I should be for Finn's magic (rusty?) spear. :-O

why what ever do you mean ? :)

You know what he means. Any gamer should know what that monster is.

uh huh, whats if it's a big cockroach? Or a cricket? frogs like crickets

Actually, I'd be more worried about Guard himself than Finn's spear. Isn't he like half metal?

Right now the only wizard I know is Daurros. Maybe he can help me or at least point me to someone who can help. Daurros?

Daurros would be more than happy to teach Toxim, provided Toxim selects spells for his spellbook that Daurros doesn't have and we can play "spell trading cards"! :-)

I think our characters are different enough for that not to be a problem. For instance, I've already chosen my starting spells and there's only two spells that we have in common. I'm going to be a transmuter with enchantment and illusion as opposition schools, while you're a universalist. Also, I'm going to eldritch knight and I expect you'll stay wizard. Here's my list:

enlarge person
magic weapon
feather fall
true strike
shield
orb of sound, lesser
burning hands

I think our characters are different enough for that not to be a problem. For instance, I've already chosen my starting spells and there's only two spells that we have in common. I'm going to be a transmuter with enchantment and illusion as opposition schools, while you're a universalist. Also, I'm going to eldritch knight and I expect you'll stay wizard. Here's my list:

enlarge person
magic weapon
feather fall
true strike
shield
orb of sound, lesser
burning hands

Exxxcellant ... taps fingers together in Mr. Burns impression

That would be a no, on the orb of sound.

I'll change that to an Orb of Cold, Lesser. Did I miss a ruling somewhere? Why no Orb of Sound?

anything not core is a case by case basis. Also the orbs do not bypass SR, and they are evocation spells. If your good with that ya may have the cold one, but sound orb is plain out

Man, Seeker. You and your luck with the computer

Hope you had a backup.

There must be something going around with Vista, my Antivirus went corrupt (again) on Sunday, luckily I know what it is and it only takes me an hour to fix.

Microsoft probably wants you to upgrade to Win7 (which is better than Vista anyway).