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From the Publisher: Changes Are Coming!

Friday, November 2, 2012

As we move into the last two months of 2012, the editorial staff is hard at work on the playtest for next year’s Mythic Adventures, the warehouse staff is eagerly awaiting the arrival of our big winter hardcover, the NPC Codex, and the web team is cranking away at the exciting new Paizo Game Space virtual tabletop. Everyone has smiles on their face as they complete major tasks for 2012 and as they begin to think about what’s coming in 2013.

The management and finance teams, in the meantime, are hard at work finalizing 2013’s budget. This multi-month process involves solidifying the editorial schedule for the year, making go or no-go decisions on marketing programs, new employee hires, and everything else with a cost associated with it. While we always remain open to new opportunities on short deadlines, when the budget for a year closes, you end up with a good snapshot of every product, employee, convention, or other initiative we plan to do in the year. It’s a time when things get locked in, and when decisions can no longer be put off into the future.

As a result, it’s the best time to make important changes to Paizo’s product lines and general strategy. Since we’re about to put the lid on the 2012 budget, I wanted to take some time here in the Paizo Blog to speak with my “publisher voice” and let you in on a few important developments that are scheduled to hit in 2013.

Branding Changes for GameMastery


Paizo’s line of GameMastery accessories dates back to the time before Pathfinder, when we were a magazine publisher just dipping our toes into the RPG game publishing field for the first time. The maps and card products released under the GameMastery line were designed to work with any fantasy RPG, and we wanted a name for the line that suggested the widest appeal to the widest number of customers, regardless of what system they played. Since its launch, we’ve released more than 100 Map Packs and Flip-Mats, and dozens of Item Cards, Face Cards, and other card-based accessories to help you run your campaigns.

Card and map subscriptions are at an all-time high, and the design department keeps finding ways to make each release improve upon those that came before it. We have plenty of terrain types, dungeon maps, and other settings yet to go, and if anything the rate of card sets will increase in the future. We now plan to produce a set of Item Cards and Face Cards for every Adventure Path we publish, with additional rules-oriented releases similar to Chase Cards, Condition Cards, and the Critical Hit deck in development as I write this.

As time has gone on, and as the Pathfinder RPG has become not just a dominant brand here at the Paizo offices but also in the game industry in general, more and more of our GameMastery accessory releases have started to tie into Pathfinder adventures or the Pathfinder rules themselves. As a result, we’ve decided to retire the GameMastery brand, and beginning in February of next year, GameMastery Map Packs, Flip-Mats, and Card releases will come out under the Pathfinder brand.

This change allows us to reexamine how we package our maps, and gives us the chance to improve them to make using the products easier. For Flip-Mats this means packaging the maps with a wrap-around cover similar to the one used for our Pathfinder GM Screen, which gives us more space to preview what the maps look like, highlight key features, and (really importantly) to allow customers (and retailers) to shelve their maps “spine out” for easier sorting. Map Packs will feature a similar packaging metamorphosis, and will now come in a small box for easier storage and display.

Many (even most) of Pathfinder Map Pack, Flip-Mat, and Card releases will still be “rules agnostic” and suitable for use with a variety of systems, but the truth is that the Pathfinder brand has a cachet with buyers, distributors, and customers that GameMastery does not, and this change will allow us to get our products into a wider network of stores. When they make it into those stores, they’ll also be shelved with other Pathfinder products, making it easier than ever for Paizo fans to find what they’re looking for.

Pricing Changes

A close look at our budgets has convinced us that we need to make some price changes on some of our product lines to keep up with rising production costs. Starting in February 2013, Pathfinder Map Packs and Pathfinder Flip-Mats will rise in price from $12.99 to $13.99.

Also starting in February, the monthly Pathfinder Adventure Path volumes, which have held steady in price for 66 consecutive volumes, will increase to $22.99 (subscribers will pay the new discounted price of $15.99, plus their other subscription benefits like the Pathfinder Advantage discount and free PDFs). Additionally, the monthly Pathfinder Player Companion line will shift from $10.99 to $12.99.

This is the first time we have ever raised prices on the Adventure Path, and we agonized over the decision. In truth, we probably should have raised the price a few years back when the cost of paper and printing increased with inflation and increased global demand at the end of 2008, but we wanted to hold the line as long as possible. We must do it now to keep the high standard of quality we publish each month, and we hope that you’ll find the few extra bucks well worth the investment.

Keep your eyes on the Paizo Blog for more updates about upcoming products and exciting new releases for 2013. It promises to be a huge year for Paizo and the Pathfinder RPG, and we can’t wait to share some of our exciting plans with you.

Your support has been integral to the Paizo story these last 10 years, and we look forward to sharing the next 10 years with you!

Sincerely,

Erik Mona
Publisher

P.S.: Look for your regularly scheduled Friday Pathfinder Battles miniature preview blog right here later this afternoon.

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Any idea how much "bigger" the newly boxed Map Packs will be?

All of my existing Map Packs are stored in a couple of these:

Index Card File

Just curious if the new product will fit in there with the old.


LoreKeeper wrote:
But increasing the product value also increases incentive for the consumers and goes a little way to justify the increase for the buyer.

The increase is to cover the production cost of the book as is. Increasing the production cost of the book would put them back in the position they're in now: Needing to raise the price.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Maps, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
LoreKeeper wrote:

I hope Paizo takes this opportunity to also re-examine the policy on printing playable maps for the Adventure Paths. I don't think that every encounter area in an AP should get the high-production dry/wet erase surface and all that - but take-out poster maps similar to (but bigger) as the ones in the Pathfinder Comic would be absolutely gold for me.

There is just something about playing on a graphically detailed map that is not readily translatable to a generic map covered in hastily drawn scrawls. And a significant portion of my playtime is dedicated to AP play.

It can work. Please make it so.

Increasing the cost to produce a product right after we raise the price of a product to offset the rising costs of producing a product, though, isn't really a great idea.

James,

I agree increasing the cost overall would be a bad thing. But is it possible to print a separate booklet option for the maps inside an adventure path?? This way you get money for yourselves as a company for putting out these excellent maps for figures to be used on and we get the maps :) I think that as an option you would get tons and I mean tons of money for them :)
I know for one I would buy them in a heart beat!!!


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Deanoth wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
LoreKeeper wrote:

I hope Paizo takes this opportunity to also re-examine the policy on printing playable maps for the Adventure Paths. I don't think that every encounter area in an AP should get the high-production dry/wet erase surface and all that - but take-out poster maps similar to (but bigger) as the ones in the Pathfinder Comic would be absolutely gold for me.

There is just something about playing on a graphically detailed map that is not readily translatable to a generic map covered in hastily drawn scrawls. And a significant portion of my playtime is dedicated to AP play.

It can work. Please make it so.

Increasing the cost to produce a product right after we raise the price of a product to offset the rising costs of producing a product, though, isn't really a great idea.

James,

I agree increasing the cost overall would be a bad thing. But is it possible to print a separate booklet option for the maps inside an adventure path?? This way you get money for yourselves as a company for putting out these excellent maps for figures to be used on and we get the maps :) I think that as an option you would get tons and I mean tons of money for them :)
I know for one I would buy them in a heart beat!!!

+1

It's not about having permanent-marker resistant super maps. Just some nice maps to help with the playthrough of the AP.


Paizo has said before that very few of the maps they commission are done at a larger size than what you see in the book. To produce miniatures scale maps would be significantly more expensive than then the current cartography. This means they would likely have to increase the cost of the APs, plus sell the maps separately.

I suspect you will continue to see a few existing maps used in encounters, like the desert map in Legacy of Fire, and a few new maps tied to encounters, like the Town Square used for the Rise of the Runelords anniversary edition.

I think it could be neat to see a Map Folio that include 4 poster maps (just paper), of major sites- something like the handful of maps scattered across the Age of Worms Dungeon issues.


The price increase is nothing considering just how awesome every simple Pathfinder product is. The quality is always there, the original ideas are always flooding onto the pages, and I just can't believe the gift that Pathfinder had become for tabletop RPGs.
Cheers to all the Pathfinder people; users and developers alike.


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules, Tales Subscriber

Price increases are a part of life in an economy where inflation is an assumption. I will NOT be cancelling my subscriptions at this time. I enjoy reading them too much, and the included pdf is a big incentive for me.

It's unfortunate that some folks will have to stop buying the AP's from Paizo directly (or buying them at all). Everyone has a different budget and different priorities. If you find the products that you want for a better price at another vendor, kudos to you. I subscribe to the AP line for the free pdf's (which is becoming my favored method of reading gaming material).

-Aaron


AHalflingNotAHobbit wrote:
Valantrix1 wrote:
Hmm... does this also mean that PDF versions of the previously mentioned products will also go up in price?
I immediately wondered about this too.

Same here, would be nice to get an answer about this.


Rhuarc wrote:
AHalflingNotAHobbit wrote:
Valantrix1 wrote:
Hmm... does this also mean that PDF versions of the previously mentioned products will also go up in price?
I immediately wondered about this too.
Same here, would be nice to get an answer about this.

got answered, I think

Lisa Stevens wrote:
Swiftbrook wrote:

So .... will all existing Map Pack/Flip-Mats/Adventure Paths/etc. existing and future increase in price

OR ....

Will the price increase only affect those products produced from February 2013 on?

Just trying to see if I need to do some purchases before the price increase. :-)

It will only affect future products. All products released before February 2013 will maintain their original prices.

-Lisa


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Maps, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber
Belle Mythix wrote:
got answered, I think

That answer seems to address products released prior to the price change.

What about PDFs of new products?

Paizo Employee CEO

Brian E. Harris wrote:
Belle Mythix wrote:
got answered, I think

That answer seems to address products released prior to the price change.

What about PDFs of new products?

Once the price changes take effect in February, all NEW PDFs of those products where prices are changing will also have slight increases. Any PDFs in those lines from before February 2013 will keep their prices the same. Here are the new prices:

Map Pack/Flip-Mat:
Was $8.99
Now $9.99

Adventure Path:
Was $13.99
Now $15.99

Player Companion:
Was $7.99
Now $8.99

-Lisa

Designer

Salazar wrote:
I don't have any idea how expensive it would be, but one possibility would be to have plastic pockets to slip the front and back covers of the map packs into.

Another possibility is to grab the product cover image from Paizo.com, print it, and glue-stick it to the front of your blank box.

Snapdragon Leafwhistle wrote:
I will probably use some of my stash of scrapbook adhesive and attach the old covers that way. Plastic pockets would add to the cost, and we need a bunch of these generic boxes.

I've been ninja'd!

Taldor

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EVen a $2 jump on the AP's is a pittance! My group currently finished our 35th session of Carrion Crown (we're almost finished with CC#5 Ashes at Dawn) and even at the new price with the Harrow Deck, Rule of Fear, & Classic Horrors Revisited our cost per session is less than $5! We still have an entire book to finish!

What other product can you find that will entertain a group of people for 4+ hours at under $5? Not many.

-Vrock Bottom Prices!!!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber

TAKE MOAR OF MY MONEY!!!111!!!!

Sczarni

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I think I would honestly take a pdf of the maps stripped from the AP's and enlarged in all of their grainy glory as long as they could be printed out on standard paper. I would even consider buying the pdf's of the old gamemastery map packs and the new pathfinder maps if I could print the maps out in sections and just tack the papers down (via foam display board). This would help out SO IMMENSELY because if the players wanted to use markers on the maps, they don't have to worry about erasing. I'll print more if I honestly need the map again. This method would also cut down on carrying a stranglehold on full maps. I nice folder would do just fine (I leave the foam display board at my friends house that we game out).

Please. I want this. I need this. We all need this. And you can still charge me the same price of the normal pdf. Or even more! I'll spend more! I just need this so much more than i need a pdf I can't print or a map folio/ap map I can't enjoy in its full glory.


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Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:

I think I would honestly take a pdf of the maps stripped from the AP's and enlarged in all of their grainy glory as long as they could be printed out on standard paper. I would even consider buying the pdf's of the old gamemastery map packs and the new pathfinder maps if I could print the maps out in sections and just tack the papers down (via foam display board). This would help out SO IMMENSELY because if the players wanted to use markers on the maps, they don't have to worry about erasing. I'll print more if I honestly need the map again. This method would also cut down on carrying a stranglehold on full maps. I nice folder would do just fine (I leave the foam display board at my friends house that we game out).

Please. I want this. I need this. We all need this. And you can still charge me the same price of the normal pdf. Or even more! I'll spend more! I just need this so much more than i need a pdf I can't print or a map folio/ap map I can't enjoy in its full glory.

You can do this now by copying the images from the PDFs and printing them out at the correct scale. I've done this several times for maps from modules and APs. Just cut them up in Paint, print them, cut them out, and tape them together.

Sczarni

Joana wrote:
Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:

I think I would honestly take a pdf of the maps stripped from the AP's and enlarged in all of their grainy glory as long as they could be printed out on standard paper. I would even consider buying the pdf's of the old gamemastery map packs and the new pathfinder maps if I could print the maps out in sections and just tack the papers down (via foam display board). This would help out SO IMMENSELY because if the players wanted to use markers on the maps, they don't have to worry about erasing. I'll print more if I honestly need the map again. This method would also cut down on carrying a stranglehold on full maps. I nice folder would do just fine (I leave the foam display board at my friends house that we game out).

Please. I want this. I need this. We all need this. And you can still charge me the same price of the normal pdf. Or even more! I'll spend more! I just need this so much more than i need a pdf I can't print or a map folio/ap map I can't enjoy in its full glory.

You can do this now by copying the images from the PDFs and printing them out at the correct scale. I've done this several times for maps from modules and APs. Just cut them up in Paint, print them, cut them out, and tape them together.

I'll have to experiment a bit then. I have a Mac (biggest mistake ever). Any suggestions from the community for mac users to accomplish this?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Mac's not a mistake (unless you're a power gamer; then your choices are limited). Given my druthers, I'd have one.

As for a image manipulation program, GIMP is open source and the 2.8.2 version GIMP runs on OSX natively.

Sczarni

thunderspirit wrote:

Mac's not a mistake (unless you're a power gamer; then your choices are limited). Given my druthers, I'd have one.

As for a image manipulation program, GIMP is open source and the 2.8.2 version GIMP runs on OSX natively.

I downloaded it. It's as I thought. Not able to run it on 10.4.11. Other options?


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The spines and boxes for the maps sounds AWESOME, and worth an extra buck.


Icaste Fyrbawl wrote:
thunderspirit wrote:

Mac's not a mistake (unless you're a power gamer; then your choices are limited). Given my druthers, I'd have one.

As for a image manipulation program, GIMP is open source and the 2.8.2 version GIMP runs on OSX natively.

I downloaded it. It's as I thought. Not able to run it on 10.4.11. Other options?

Let Me Google That For You

Taldor

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www.posterazor.com

I recently found this program due to postings in the PFS section of the boards and have used it for creating 1" scale maps from some of those scenarios. The blown up image is a little grainy due to enlargement, but it is extremely easy to setup and use. There is also a Mac version to download as well.

Grand Lodge

Price increase will be overlooked on my part for AP and Maps. Amount of quality content in PF Companion has left me disappointed for the price, the campaign setting is better though.

Really, I'd rather just see the Companion quarterly or bi-monthly, fewer increments with more content for an appropriate price.

Its really very hard to justify how much I spend on these products (The combined subscription line), but I have always loved Paizo staff's overall work.

But the cost is too much for me(even before increase). I don't need glossy pages for the softcovers, even the AP, if the savings was significant. The content is so sparse in the Companion, and in some of the Campaign Setting subscription softcovers I would just as soon have the without covers even, 3-hole punched, and then get me some 3-ring binder with some art on it. Individually these have little meat. And the sit in a bookshelf or magazine rack with no readable spine, making referencing them annoying.

What would really be ideal to me, would be to have Dungeon and Dragon magazine back (as paizo did them obv.) but I'm sure that won't happen. But that format for content delivery, even at AP price would really be great.

Now I don't think you will entertain the notion of lowering your production quality (esp. since such a selling point is made of it). But I really wish you consider releasing it much more infrequently with more substance in each installment. Because the cost vs content just isn't there. For me.

For me to keep subscribing to Companion anyways. Maybe I'll go Ala Carte. Although if I do, I just as likely to rip van winkle it and wait til someone sells them in lots aftermarket via ebay or some such.
Or maybe you could even do an annual hardcover? Of course if you release an annual hardcover with all the (pf companion) content after I spend over $125 for the softcovers...

Now I know fifty plus five hundred posters will disagree with me, but those that do may just unsubscribe silently. Heck maybe no one will.

I love all your work, utterly hooked since Age of Worms, and I want to get it all, but I'm only willing to give so much for what I'm getting right now.

Also because I do not post often:
We all (my gaming group) want a paperback novel sized PF PH with no spells in it, and a separate similar compendium of spells.
Maintain currently level of beautiful women in art.
Consider some 2nd Ed AD&D style art (paintings) for Hardcovers (interior).
Personally prefer flimsy paper maps, rather than thick laminated ones.

TLDR Digest:
I've been awake way too long. In summary: please make your PF Companion (and to a much lesser extent Campaign Setting) subscription products more accessible. They are fancier(more art and gloss) than I need them to be and I feel they do not have as much substantial content (interesting writing) as their price merits (other than maybe the racial ones). Their small size makes them difficult to reference. I would also like to thank you for sharing your talent and creativity with my gaming group.

Apologies for grammar, I'm very tired.

Sczarni

Green Left Eye wrote:
Also, while I'm on the topic of Face Cards, will you be releasing sets for your back catalogue of APs, as well? Rise of the Runelords is already out, but I would love to get my hands on the sets for Curse of the Crimson Throne and Carrion Crown, specifically.

you just read my mind!

Any chances for CC card face?


Will the price of Pathfinder Society scenarios be increasing as well?

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

As long as we dont have a repeat of the AP release delays I wont complain about the price increase =)


Paizo does a great job of providing us all with the tools we need to run their AP's. The main area they have always lacked IMO is the maps. Mostly the Map Folios contain regional maps that i dont need and most of the flip-maps and map packs dont sync up with the maps from the AP's. If the maps were taken directly from the adventures i would buy them all, and would not care about price. As it is I dont buy many of them.


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Frankly, speaking for myself, all the various Pathfinder lines are dirt-cheap. For me, the price hike is so small as to be almost negligible. The new prices are still dirt-cheap, especially considering the ridiculously high quality of both the content and the production value of the products. Honestly, I don't know how you guys maintain. You must have some seriously sick economies of scale working in your favor.

Anyway, this is just me saying, "carry on". The price increase is more than justified in the current industry climate. You've still got my support.

Cheers,
Tony

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

No price increase for any other product lines are planned at this time. We'll make some small adjustments to Pathfinder Pawns here and there, but that's more a brand new product line trying to find the right price than an ongoing product line that's changing after being the same for a long time.

Shadow Lodge

The Block Knight wrote:
You must have some seriously sick economies of scale working in your favor.

They lose money on every sale - but they make it up in volume!


I, for one, am fully willing to pay the higher prices. The products are just that good, and still a good value at that value.


I'm glad to see an update on where your are heading with somethings but just getting into Pathfinder I find myself having some questions. (I did download your first beta and adventure path but haven't looked at things until recently as I didn't have a gaming group)

First where is Mythic Adventures fitting into everything? It seems to be and optional add on to other Pathfinder material but ... it seems to be getting top billing on the message boards pushing the boards for what seems to be your primary product down. Seeing this the first time I started wondering if Mythic was suppose to replace Pathfinder even though everything else seems to say this is not the case. Why isn't this located somewhere else so your main Pathfinder boards can be seen easier?

2nd Pathfinder is about four years old now (three and a half?). It feels like about five years is normal for an edition. While I'm very happy with your current version I will say that not knowing future plans I'm very lukewarm about buying the current books. Every time I get a game system it seems they release the new edition just after I get it. Add to this that if I order from bookdepository where I usually order from there doesn't seem to be a way to tell which printing of the current edition I would be getting. In short I wish there were and easy way to tell which printing of your books distributors carry and what are the very general long range plans. Obviously the latter concern is a big can of worms I still wish you could address in in the manner of something like: "We feel it would be good to do enough tweaking of the system for new books every 5 or 6 or 7 whatever years" or "We only plan on making continued minor updates to the books as we have been".

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Mythic gets top bill right now because it's playtest is active. They're trying to get feedback on it before publishing.


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Mir wrote:
2nd Pathfinder is about four years old now (three and a half?). It feels like about five years is normal for an edition. While I'm very happy with your current version I will say that not knowing future plans I'm very lukewarm about buying the current books. Every time I get a game system it seems they release the new edition just after I get it. Add to this that if I order from bookdepository where I usually order from there doesn't seem to be a way to tell which printing of the current edition I would be getting. In short I wish there were and easy way to tell which printing of your books distributors carry and what are the very general long range plans. Obviously the latter concern is a big can of worms I still wish you could address in in the manner of something like: "We feel it would be good to do enough tweaking of the system for new books every 5 or 6 or 7 whatever years" or "We only plan on making continued minor updates to the books as we have been".

Posted by creative director James Jacobs on Thursday:

James Jacobs wrote:
But it's the way it is in Pathfinder now because it's meant to be relatively simple and limited; the time to change how that works would be in Pathfinder 2nd edition, and that's not gonna be happening anytime soon.

That's about as specific as you'll find anyone officially getting around here, I believe. Early on, I think some of the Paizo staff were on record as saying ten years might be a time to think about introducing a new edition.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

There have also been some indicators that even if there is a 2nd edition of Pathfinder they intend to stay reasonably close to what is currently there, though I am too lazy to look up the actual quotes.

Think of it more like the transition from 1st ed D&D to 2nd ed or from 3 to 3.5. Not everything will work perfectly, but the core of the game will stay recognisably the same. There will definitely be some changes at some point but that time is not now and even when it comes you should still be able to play your old characters without having to recreate them from scratch.

Personally, and this is pure supposition on my part, I think that Paizo is a transparent enough company that they will announce any 2nd edition plans well in advance and will most likely have some sort of playtest for any new rules being considered.

Mythic for example is scheduled for release next August and we have known about is since last August, at least in a general sense. The playtest is getting a lot of screen time because it is a new approach to raising the power level of characters, even so it is still just an optional supplement.


That fills in most of my blanks or haziness. I'm glad to hear things however vague I hate when publishers feel they can't say anything because someone will try to hold them to an exact date. Thanks.

Silver Crusade

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Important notice: Paizo's primary business comes from AP's and campaign setting material, not the RPG system rulebooks.

Which is quite easy to see, Paizo puts out 42 adventure/module/setting/companion softcovers per year and 3 hardcovers of RPG rules

As a consequence, unlike that company of Sorcerers by the Shore, Paizo isn't dependant on new editions of the rules to keep them afloat by making their customers re-purchase everything every 5 years or so.

So when you think "geee it's been 5 years between 3.5e and 4e, by this logic Pathfinder 2E should be around shortly" you're comparing apples to oranges, because WotC's business model and Paizos business model are completely different. The former basically HAS to release new edition of the rules every now and then to keep in business, the latter is actually very much interested *not* to do that, since the rules exist to support the setting - and having a stable ruleset is a very good idea.


Will this mean a reduction in white space?

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Maps Subscriber
Lisa Stevens wrote:
Brian E. Harris wrote:
Belle Mythix wrote:
got answered, I think

That answer seems to address products released prior to the price change.

What about PDFs of new products?

Once the price changes take effect in February, all NEW PDFs of those products where prices are changing will also have slight increases. Any PDFs in those lines from before February 2013 will keep their prices the same. Here are the new prices:

Map Pack/Flip-Mat:
Was $8.99
Now $9.99

Adventure Path:
Was $13.99
Now $15.99

Player Companion:
Was $7.99
Now $8.99

-Lisa

I am a little surprised the cost of the PDF's go up as well if it was due to the "cost of paper and printing".

You guys must subsidize the cost of the printed product from the PDF's a little. Otherwise to me that dosn't make since with the stated reason of increasing the price of the products.

Unless it is just to keep the PDF prices in line with your other products for PDF price justification on the other lines....being what they are.

It is pretty small increase though.

EDIT: I suppose it could also be you just don't want to make the PDF only option to attractive over your printed prouct line which if did happen you wouldn't be able to do the printed product for many reason that Vic has pointed out on the numerous inquires on PDF subscriptions.


thenorthman wrote:

I am a little surprised the cost of the PDF's go up as well if it was due to the "cost of paper and printing".

You guys must subsidize the cost of the printed product from the PDF's a little. Otherwise to me that dosn't make since with the stated reason of increasing the price of the products.

Unless it is just to keep the PDF prices in line with your other products for PDF price justification on the other lines....being what they are.

It is pretty small increase though.

EDIT: I suppose it could also be you just don't want to make the PDF only option to attractive over your printed prouct line which if did happen you wouldn't be able to do the printed product for many reason that Vic has pointed out on the numerous inquires on PDF subscriptions.

Might be software cost and the like.

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Maps Subscriber

I DO like the improvements for the Maps though!

But it obsoletes my leather picture binders I purchsed for my map packs.

Although I do like the way the binders display the actual maps out for a person to see them easily.

Decisions....

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thenorthman wrote:

Unless it is just to keep the PDF prices in line with your other products for PDF price justification on the other lines....being what they are.

That's the reason. The PDF price is keyed to the price of the printed product.

Thanks,
cos

Andoran

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Cool! Wasn't really expecting a reply. But it is what makes you guys awesome.

Was just speculating out loud so to speak.

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