paizo.com Recent Comments on Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective—Year 2 (2004)—The Worst of Timespaizo.com Recent Comments on Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective—Year 2 (2004)—The Worst of Times2012-06-19T22:36:47Z2012-06-19T22:36:47ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesJib916https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#872012-12-01T02:01:57Z2012-12-01T02:01:57Z<p>Truly a touching story Lisa. Thank you for sharing it and not giving up with Paizo. You have created a great company.</p>Truly a touching story Lisa. Thank you for sharing it and not giving up with Paizo. You have created a great company.Jib9162012-12-01T02:01:57ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of Timesgboneheadhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#862012-06-03T06:11:01Z2012-06-03T06:11:01Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Dragnmoon wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Wow, interesting story, Many things I never knew. So glad things worked out.</p>
<p>2004 was the first year I gave money directly to Paizo.</p>
<p>Apr 6, 2004 2 year subscription to Dragon $67.</p>
<p>Paizo is one of the few Companies I have continued to buy from over many years. Since then I have given them $8,523.64 of my money.</p>
<p>Let's not tell my Wife, oddly I have almost been married to my wife as long as that... ;). April is the Month I asked her to marry me. </blockquote><p>Hmmm ... I'm not sure I can figure out when I started subscribing, but it was a while ago. But dare I do the math on here?
<p>(winces)</p>
<p>$5090.33 ... at least according to the web site, which covers since order #38690 on Oct 16, 2003 for a Star Wars Insider 8-Issue Subscription.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I'd already been a subcriber to the Dragon for a while (since before the introduction of 3e), so that's certainly not the first funds they got from me ... but August 2004 was the first time I renewed the Dragon online :)</p>Dragnmoon wrote:Wow, interesting story, Many things I never knew. So glad things worked out.
2004 was the first year I gave money directly to Paizo.
Apr 6, 2004 2 year subscription to Dragon $67.
Paizo is one of the few Companies I have continued to buy from over many years. Since then I have given them $8,523.64 of my money.
Let's not tell my Wife, oddly I have almost been married to my wife as long as that... ;). April is the Month I asked her to marry me.
Hmmm ... I'm not sure I can...gbonehead2012-06-03T06:11:01ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesPapa-DRBhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#852012-05-29T11:50:58Z2012-05-29T11:50:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">HangarFlying wrote:</div><blockquote> I was going to post a "you're late!" message, but figured they had more important things, and the weekend, to deal with. Now that the weekend is over: you're late! </blockquote><p>The weekend was not over at the time you wrote this! It is a three day weekend in the States (Memorial Day)...
<p>— david
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Papa.DRB</p>HangarFlying wrote:I was going to post a "you're late!" message, but figured they had more important things, and the weekend, to deal with. Now that the weekend is over: you're late!
The weekend was not over at the time you wrote this! It is a three day weekend in the States (Memorial Day)... -- david
Papa.DRBPapa-DRB2012-05-29T11:50:58ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesLisa Stevens (CEO)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#842012-05-29T08:55:03Z2012-05-29T08:55:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Enlight_Bystand wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Kevin Mack wrote:</div><blockquote> Any chance of another one of these coming up soon? </blockquote>The last two have been the last Thursday of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 2005 this Thursday... </blockquote><p>Very perceptive! And you would be right. Thursday it is!
<p>-Lisa</p>Enlight_Bystand wrote:Kevin Mack wrote: Any chance of another one of these coming up soon?
The last two have been the last Thursday of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 2005 this Thursday... Very perceptive! And you would be right. Thursday it is! -LisaLisa Stevens (CEO)2012-05-29T08:55:03ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesDM Wellard (alias of Wellard)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#832012-05-29T07:36:12Z2012-05-29T07:36:12Z<p>2004 was the year I came back to Dragon having given up on D&D when it went to 3E. Paizo brought me back so I guess I owe you guys.</p>2004 was the year I came back to Dragon having given up on D&D when it went to 3E. Paizo brought me back so I guess I owe you guys.DM Wellard (alias of Wellard)2012-05-29T07:36:12ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesHangarFlyinghttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#822012-05-29T03:20:27Z2012-05-29T03:20:27Z<p>I was going to post a "you're late!" message, but figured they had more important things, and the weekend, to deal with. Now that the weekend is over: you're late!</p>I was going to post a "you're late!" message, but figured they had more important things, and the weekend, to deal with. Now that the weekend is over: you're late!HangarFlying2012-05-29T03:20:27ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesEnlight_Bystandhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#812012-05-28T22:14:42Z2012-05-28T22:14:42Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kevin Mack wrote:</div><blockquote> Any chance of another one of these coming up soon? </blockquote><p>The last two have been the last Thursday of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 2005 this Thursday...Kevin Mack wrote:Any chance of another one of these coming up soon?
The last two have been the last Thursday of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 2005 this Thursday...Enlight_Bystand2012-05-28T22:14:42ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesNeil Spicer (Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#802012-05-28T21:33:17Z2012-05-28T21:33:17Z<p>Now that they've got the GenCon press behind them, I'd assume they'll have more time for the blog between now and PaizoCon.</p>Now that they've got the GenCon press behind them, I'd assume they'll have more time for the blog between now and PaizoCon.Neil Spicer (Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut)2012-05-28T21:33:17ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesKevin Mackhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#792012-05-28T20:39:26Z2012-05-28T20:39:26Z<p>Any chance of another one of these coming up soon?</p>Any chance of another one of these coming up soon?Kevin Mack2012-05-28T20:39:26ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesDark_Mistresshttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#782012-05-07T19:26:51Z2012-05-07T19:26:51Z<p>I find reading things like this to be fascinating to read. To see the behinds the scenes stuff and not only what was going on. But why and how it was going on. </p>
<p>I personally never got the mags myself other than a few key issues here or there that had something I was very interested in. Like the ecology articles about the princes and princess of the abyss aka the Demonomicon series. </p>
<p>I really didn't pay attention to Paizo until I ran across a copy of the first Rise of the Runelords in the local gaming store. At that time i still bought everything from the local stores to support them. It bought issues 1-5 that way and it wasn't until issue 6 that I finally came to Paizo.com to really check the company out. I ordered a subscription later the same day if memory serves. (might have been later in the week) Now 90% of the gaming stuff i buy comes from paizo.com store, either as PDF's or print stuff sent with my monthly subscription stuff.</p>
<p>Very much looking forward to reading the rest of this series, though I do wish they was written faster than once a month. :)</p>I find reading things like this to be fascinating to read. To see the behinds the scenes stuff and not only what was going on. But why and how it was going on.
I personally never got the mags myself other than a few key issues here or there that had something I was very interested in. Like the ecology articles about the princes and princess of the abyss aka the Demonomicon series.
I really didn't pay attention to Paizo until I ran across a copy of the first Rise of the Runelords in the...Dark_Mistress2012-05-07T19:26:51ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesKvantumhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#772012-05-03T17:25:28Z2012-05-03T17:25:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Liz Courts wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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•• spoiler omitted •• </blockquote><p>It's why I subscribe! :)Liz Courts wrote:** spoiler omitted **
It's why I subscribe! :)Kvantum2012-05-03T17:25:28ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesLiz Courts (Contributor)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#762012-05-03T17:23:51Z2012-05-03T17:23:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kvantum wrote:</div><blockquote>AFAIR, and Paizonians please correct me if I am wrong, but subscribing is the preferred way for us fans to buy products since it tends to give them more reliable sales projections for the future. </blockquote><p>Sales through all channels—Paizo.com, book trade, hobby trade—are excellent and good and all are necessary. Buy where you want to buy from, we're not picky!
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[Spoiler omitted]</p>Kvantum wrote:AFAIR, and Paizonians please correct me if I am wrong, but subscribing is the preferred way for us fans to buy products since it tends to give them more reliable sales projections for the future.
Sales through all channels—Paizo.com, book trade, hobby trade—are excellent and good and all are necessary. Buy where you want to buy from, we're not picky!
[Spoiler omitted]Liz Courts (Contributor)2012-05-03T17:23:51ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesKvantumhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#752012-05-03T03:06:50Z2012-05-03T03:06:50Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">revloc02 wrote:</div><blockquote><p>I feel the same way. Amazon.com has really good prices on Pathfinder stuff, but I am willing to pay for good products (which Pathfinder is).</p>
<p>So here's my question: If I buy stuff from Paizo directly do they get more profit than if I buy at Amazon? </blockquote><p>You can get your products direct from Paizo and still save a good bit if you subscribe. Get a subscription to the AP volumes and you save 30% off of them, and 15% off any other physical products you order along with them (such as other Pathfinder subscriptions, like the RPG releases, the Companions, etc.)
<p>http://paizo.com/products/btpy7xpn?Pathfinder-Adventure-Path-Subscription</p>
<p>AFAIR, and Paizonians please correct me if I am wrong, but subscribing is the preferred way for us fans to buy products since it tends to give them more reliable sales projections for the future.</p>revloc02 wrote:I feel the same way. Amazon.com has really good prices on Pathfinder stuff, but I am willing to pay for good products (which Pathfinder is).
So here's my question: If I buy stuff from Paizo directly do they get more profit than if I buy at Amazon?
You can get your products direct from Paizo and still save a good bit if you subscribe. Get a subscription to the AP volumes and you save 30% off of them, and 15% off any other physical products you order along with them (such as...Kvantum2012-05-03T03:06:50ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesAeshuurahttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#742012-05-02T21:41:05Z2012-05-02T21:41:05Z<p>Yes, if you buy from Paizo directly, they make a higher profit margin, mostly because they do not want to undercut their distributors and ultimately the retail stores. They sell it at the MSRP, while they are essentially selling it to Amazon at a lower markup.</p>
<p>It was noted in the recent thread entitled, "Amazon?"</p>Yes, if you buy from Paizo directly, they make a higher profit margin, mostly because they do not want to undercut their distributors and ultimately the retail stores. They sell it at the MSRP, while they are essentially selling it to Amazon at a lower markup.
It was noted in the recent thread entitled, "Amazon?"Aeshuura2012-05-02T21:41:05ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of Timesrevloc02https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#732012-05-02T21:28:08Z2012-05-02T21:28:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">cannon fodder wrote:</div><blockquote><p> You know, this particular article is quite an eye-opener.</p>
<p>I'm gonna be very honest. I really like Paizo's work; however, I usually try to get it as economically as possible. That usually means Amazon or some other online retailer with some 2000% discount or other going. </p>
<p>But....in being as frugal as possible, I'm putting everyone at a disadvantage. I'm essentially saying, "I expect bigger and better and shinier material in the future and I'll expect to pay less and less for it." Of course, I'm looking out for my personal finances, like anyone else. But I also need to remember that, I'm one of the clients whose purchases fuel the 'raw materials' that go into the bigger and better and shinier material I'm demanding. Sometimes people cry foul on higher prices, but I guess we consumers also need to remember that the great stuff you guys put out comes from real people, not some mythical rpg tree (wait, •is• there a mythical rpg tree?!). </p>
<p>Long story short - I'm gonna start buying more from you guys directly. I want more good stuff. And I'm happy to pay for it. </blockquote><p>I feel the same way. Amazon.com has really good prices on Pathfinder stuff, but I am willing to pay for good products (which Pathfinder is).
<p>So here's my question: If I buy stuff from Paizo directly do they get more profit than if I buy at Amazon?</p>cannon fodder wrote:You know, this particular article is quite an eye-opener.
I'm gonna be very honest. I really like Paizo's work; however, I usually try to get it as economically as possible. That usually means Amazon or some other online retailer with some 2000% discount or other going.
But....in being as frugal as possible, I'm putting everyone at a disadvantage. I'm essentially saying, "I expect bigger and better and shinier material in the future and I'll expect to pay less and less...revloc022012-05-02T21:28:08ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesVic Wertz (Chief Technical Officer)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#722012-04-30T20:14:11Z2012-04-30T20:14:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kain Darkwind wrote:</div><blockquote><p> This has been one of the most informative little series I've read.</p>
<p>I would like to point out that it definitely wasn't Dungeon 169 that was the sister issue to Dragon 315. Dungeon, rest its soul, only went to issue 150. I believe it was actually Dungeon 110. </blockquote><p>Right you are. Fixed... (Oddly, we already had the correct link...)Kain Darkwind wrote:This has been one of the most informative little series I've read.
I would like to point out that it definitely wasn't Dungeon 169 that was the sister issue to Dragon 315. Dungeon, rest its soul, only went to issue 150. I believe it was actually Dungeon 110.
Right you are. Fixed... (Oddly, we already had the correct link...)Vic Wertz (Chief Technical Officer)2012-04-30T20:14:11ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesJonathan Henson (alias of JonTheDominator)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#712012-04-29T17:58:52Z2012-04-29T17:58:52Z<p>Never realized that Paizo has been around fr 10 year now!!! That is awesome!!!! :O</p>Never realized that Paizo has been around fr 10 year now!!! That is awesome!!!! :OJonathan Henson (alias of JonTheDominator)2012-04-29T17:58:52ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesHangarFlyinghttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#702012-04-28T21:25:31Z2012-04-28T21:25:31Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lisa Stevens wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">HangarFlying wrote:</div><blockquote> If 2004 was that bad, how did you survive the 07/08 downturn? Which, for my industry, was the darkest and bleakest of times only rivaled by 9/11 and it's immediate aftermath. </blockquote><p>Interestingly enough, the adventure game industry has always done well in an economic downturn. Turns out that adventure games provide a great deal of entertainment for the money. On top of it, Paizo was growing quite a bit during that time and bringing in lots of new customers, so the effect was basically that we didn't grow as quickly as we could have.
<p>-Lisa </blockquote><p>That's true! Thanks for the opportunities!Lisa Stevens wrote:HangarFlying wrote: If 2004 was that bad, how did you survive the 07/08 downturn? Which, for my industry, was the darkest and bleakest of times only rivaled by 9/11 and it's immediate aftermath.
Interestingly enough, the adventure game industry has always done well in an economic downturn. Turns out that adventure games provide a great deal of entertainment for the money. On top of it, Paizo was growing quite a bit during that time and bringing in lots of new customers, so...HangarFlying2012-04-28T21:25:31ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of Timeskrevonhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#692012-04-28T21:08:13Z2012-04-28T21:08:13Z<p>After buying and playing 4ed for 1 month, I was introduced to Pathfinder. I was impressed enough to switch over. I then ran a one shot for some friends in a neighboring city (one of which happens to manage the local hobby store) which brought that group into the loop and the store selling Paizo products.</p>
<p>Good job guys, you've impressed an old gamer!</p>After buying and playing 4ed for 1 month, I was introduced to Pathfinder. I was impressed enough to switch over. I then ran a one shot for some friends in a neighboring city (one of which happens to manage the local hobby store) which brought that group into the loop and the store selling Paizo products.
Good job guys, you've impressed an old gamer!krevon2012-04-28T21:08:13ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesLisa Stevens (CEO)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#682012-04-28T07:28:30Z2012-04-28T07:13:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">HangarFlying wrote:</div><blockquote> If 2004 was that bad, how did you survive the 07/08 downturn? Which, for my industry, was the darkest and bleakest of times only rivaled by 9/11 and it's immediate aftermath. </blockquote><p>Interestingly enough, the adventure game industry has always done well in an economic downturn. Turns out that adventure games provide a great deal of entertainment for the money. On top of it, Paizo was growing quite a bit during that time and bringing in lots of new customers, so the effect was basically that we didn't grow as quickly as we could have.
<p>-Lisa</p>HangarFlying wrote:If 2004 was that bad, how did you survive the 07/08 downturn? Which, for my industry, was the darkest and bleakest of times only rivaled by 9/11 and it's immediate aftermath.
Interestingly enough, the adventure game industry has always done well in an economic downturn. Turns out that adventure games provide a great deal of entertainment for the money. On top of it, Paizo was growing quite a bit during that time and bringing in lots of new customers, so the effect was...Lisa Stevens (CEO)2012-04-28T07:13:08ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesTheChozynhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#672012-04-28T07:28:18Z2012-04-28T05:09:25Z<p>Lisa, and the rest of the Paizo crew,</p>
<p>Thanks for not giving up in the lean times. It's very nice to hear the story of Paizo. I know where the story is now and hope to continue to follow it for many many more years to come. </p>
<p>I dabbled in Dungeon and Dragon during those years, but didn't get firmly entrenched in them until the year before the end. </p>
<p>Then RotRl hit and I've been chanting your praises ever since, though I'm sad my Burnt Offerings got lost. I went into a game store the other day and knew more about your current products/upcoming products then the owner of the store did. That is a testament to how open and involved you are with your customer base.</p>Lisa, and the rest of the Paizo crew,
Thanks for not giving up in the lean times. It's very nice to hear the story of Paizo. I know where the story is now and hope to continue to follow it for many many more years to come.
I dabbled in Dungeon and Dragon during those years, but didn't get firmly entrenched in them until the year before the end.
Then RotRl hit and I've been chanting your praises ever since, though I'm sad my Burnt Offerings got lost. I went into a game store the other day...TheChozyn2012-04-28T05:09:25ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesMikazehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#662012-05-03T17:51:49Z2012-04-28T04:47:08Z<p>I love this company. :)</p>I love this company. :)Mikaze2012-04-28T04:47:08ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesSamnellhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#652012-04-28T03:39:15Z2012-04-28T03:39:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lisa Stevens wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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I wanted to comment on this post. I worked very hard to make sure that our struggles weren't known outside of Paizo. Heck, I don't think that many of our employees knew how hard the struggles were, because I kept that info confined to the top ranks. No sense having everybody worrying all of the time. I think that is why Erik's closed door meeting mentioned in Jason's sidebar was such a shock. People didn't really see it coming. They possibly had a hint or two or three, but not all the details. And we definitely didn't want the public to know. </blockquote><p>Oof, that must have been rough. Not just all the stress of the situation, but also keeping it quiet.Lisa Stevens wrote:I wanted to comment on this post. I worked very hard to make sure that our struggles weren't known outside of Paizo. Heck, I don't think that many of our employees knew how hard the struggles were, because I kept that info confined to the top ranks. No sense having everybody worrying all of the time. I think that is why Erik's closed door meeting mentioned in Jason's sidebar was such a shock. People didn't really see it coming. They possibly had a hint or two or three, but...Samnell2012-04-28T03:39:15ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesHangarFlyinghttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#642012-04-28T02:30:47Z2012-04-28T02:30:47Z<p>If 2004 was that bad, how did you survive the 07/08 downturn? Which, for my industry, was the darkest and bleakest of times only rivaled by 9/11 and it's immediate aftermath.</p>If 2004 was that bad, how did you survive the 07/08 downturn? Which, for my industry, was the darkest and bleakest of times only rivaled by 9/11 and it's immediate aftermath.HangarFlying2012-04-28T02:30:47ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Paizo Publishing’s 10th Anniversary Retrospective--Year 2 (2004)--The Worst of TimesJeremiziahhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lddb&page=2?Paizo-Publishing-s-10th-Anniversary#632012-04-28T00:27:32Z2012-04-28T00:02:00Z<p>At the risk of sounding cheesy, thia article was honestly pretty moving. My takeaway? Good on ya, Vic Wertz. Way to stand by Lisa in one of her darker hours. You did the right thing!</p>At the risk of sounding cheesy, thia article was honestly pretty moving. My takeaway? Good on ya, Vic Wertz. Way to stand by Lisa in one of her darker hours. You did the right thing!Jeremiziah2012-04-28T00:02:00Z