wolflord
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These sound awesome!
One question: Is the Dodo supposed to be a +2 initiative or is he meant to be a +4 like the greensting scorpion (recently errated from a +2 to a +4) and the compsognathus?
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The toucan should grant a +3 bonus on Perception checks to detect breakfast cereals.
Rob McCreary
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These sound awesome!
One question: Is the Dodo supposed to be a +2 initiative or is he meant to be a +4 like the greensting scorpion (recently errated from a +2 to a +4) and the compsognathus?
Yes! It's fixed now. :)
Calixymenthillian
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Aren't Dodos extinct because they just sat still while cats hunted them? Doesn't really seem like the sort of behaviour that suggests a bonus to initiative to me.
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The toucan should grant a +3 bonus on Perception checks to detect breakfast cereals.
I was going to give him a +3 survival check instead, on account of always being able to procure cereal. And as for not being able to talk...maybe he's just an awakened animal.
| Cheapy |
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Yes! It's fixed now. :)These sound awesome!
One question: Is the Dodo supposed to be a +2 initiative or is he meant to be a +4 like the greensting scorpion (recently errated from a +2 to a +4) and the compsognathus?
The fixed version gives +4 to Init?
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If I were in a game with someone playing a arcane caster with a toucan familiar, I'd feel obliged to play a druid with a tiger animal companion so that we could embark on some breakfast cereal themed adventures together; preferably vs a leprechaun BBEG. It'd be GRRRRREAT!!!
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Rob McCreary
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The fixed version gives +4 to Init?Yes! It's fixed now. :)These sound awesome!
One question: Is the Dodo supposed to be a +2 initiative or is he meant to be a +4 like the greensting scorpion (recently errated from a +2 to a +4) and the compsognathus?
Yes, the blog has been updated to reflect the change.
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Erik Mona
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The toucan should, of course, grant you the scent ability. :)
Gavgoyle
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If I were in a game with someone playing a arcane caster with a toucan familiar, I'd feel obliged to play a druid with a tiger animal companion so that we could embark on some breakfast cereal themed adventures together; preferably vs a leprechaun BBEG. It'd be GRRRRREAT!!!
I'll play Diggum the Boggard barbarian!
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Gavgoyle
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Oh, and let me just say... vermin don't bother me at all, but isopods kinda squick me the freak out!
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The toucan should, of course, grant you the scent ability. :)
That might be too overpowered, Erik. After all, Scent is a little TOO good for something like a familiar to just up and grant to a spellcaster. But I think if you lowered it down to only allowing the toucan's spellcaster to detect the presence or absence of fruit or fruity products, it'd be pretty balanced.
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If I were in a game with someone playing a arcane caster with a toucan familiar, I'd feel obliged to play a druid with a tiger animal companion so that we could embark on some breakfast cereal themed adventures together; preferably vs a leprechaun BBEG. It'd be GRRRRREAT!!!I'll play Diggum the Boggard barbarian!
Play a Grippli instead. They're actually a 0-Hit Die player race.
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Aren't Dodos extinct because they just sat still while cats hunted them? Doesn't really seem like the sort of behaviour that suggests a bonus to initiative to me.
Dodos had no natural fear of man, so they wouldn't run away like other animals. So they were really easy for people to hunt. I would say instead of Init, I would give them a bonus v fear effects.
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Dodos had no natural fear of man, so they wouldn't run away like other animals. So they were really easy for people to hunt.
I don't know if killing dodos can really be considered "hunting". If it qualified, I'd propose that buying shrink-wrapped chicken breasts at the supermarket is likewise "hunting".
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Dodos had no natural fear of man, so they wouldn't run away like other animals. So they were really easy for people to hunt.I don't know if killing dodos can really be considered "hunting". If it qualified, I'd propose that buying shrink-wrapped chicken breasts at the supermarket is likewise "hunting".
By hunting I meant "killing a wild animal," as opposed to "killing a domesticated animal that I breed and keep on a farm," but point taken.
Lazaro
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The toucan should, of course, grant you the scent ability. :)
Follow your nose!
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By hunting I meant "killing a wild animal," as opposed to "killing a domesticated animal that I breed and keep on a farm," but point taken.
In my mind hunting means "killing a wild animal who has some sense of self preservation". Domestication is an arbitrary concept when applied to a tame animal like the dodo.
Don't disparage the proud hunting traditions of my people, Ambrus!
I hold my fellow grocery store aficionados in the highest regard.
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The toucan should grant a +3 bonus on Perception checks to detect breakfast cereals.
Remember the old Guinness commercials?
"Anything one can do, Toucan do better"That sounds as though it should grant Teamwork feats ...
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That sounds as though it should grant Teamwork feats ...
Or a +3 bonus on Profession (brewer) skill checks. Rather desirable for a would-be pirate I'd say.
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If I were in a game with someone playing a arcane caster with a toucan familiar, I'd feel obliged to play a druid with a tiger animal companion so that we could embark on some breakfast cereal themed adventures together; preferably vs a leprechaun BBEG. It'd be GRRRRREAT!!!I'll play Diggum the Boggard barbarian!
How 'bout Sonny the Tengu, a Drunken Brute Barbarian? He maintains his rage by swilling a fermented chocolatey beverage.
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Trinite
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If we need a rogue...are there any bear-like races? I'm thinking of someone who can't get enough of that golden loot!
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If I were in a game with someone playing a arcane caster with a toucan familiar, I'd feel obliged to play a druid with a tiger animal companion so that we could embark on some breakfast cereal themed adventures together; preferably vs a leprechaun BBEG. It'd be GRRRRREAT!!!
Just wait until you run across Cap'n Crunch ...
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KoboldQuarterly blog had stats for chicken familiars. A pirate witch or oracle might find those useful.
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Finally toucan play at this game! *badoom tish*
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Just wait until you run across Cap'n Crunch ...
Between a tiger and a short potbellied old guy, my money is on my buddy Tony.
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The seasinger bard archetype already has the option of getting a parrot familiar - should we assume these rules (which change the skill bonus for having a parrot) apply to that archetype as well?
| Cheapy |
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KoboldQuarterly blog had stats for chicken familiars. A pirate witch or oracle might find those useful.
so they have a ready supply of entrails, right?
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The seasinger bard archetype already has the option of getting a parrot familiar - should we assume these rules (which change the skill bonus for having a parrot) apply to that archetype as well?
No. The seasinger bard gets a special type of parrot familiar.
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Ok so if Toucan and the Tiger need foes for this adventure of theirs, I suggest a Brown Vampire Count, A Pink Flesh Golem, and a Purple Ghost.
Ooh! This is starting to shape up into an interesting A.P.
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This is great. Parrots can talk now, the dodo initiative was fixed, and we get a few extra familiar options to boot. Very nice blog post.
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Alex Putnam
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KoboldQuarterly blog had stats for chicken familiars. A pirate witch or oracle might find those useful.
The Fearsome Power of Chickens cannot be denied. Nor their relative availability on seafaring vessels for the wizard, witch, or druid on a budget. Cheers!
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The Fearsome Power of Chickens[/url] cannot be denied.
Nor their deliciousness with a honey mustard glaze refuted...
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Varthanna
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This is great. Parrots can talk now, the dodo initiative was fixed, and we get a few extra familiar options to boot. Very nice blog post.
Doin' what blogs should be doin'.
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I want to play a white-haired seafaring wizard who dresses in a blue naval uniform and has a toucan familiar now. Maybe with a weretiger on the crew.
One day we could raid the nonexistant shores of Ustalav and fight vampires, flesh golems, and ghosts.
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I want to play a white-haired seafaring wizard who dresses in a blue naval uniform and has a toucan familiar now. Maybe with a weretiger on the crew.
One day we could raid the nonexistant shores of Ustalav and fight vampires, flesh golems, and ghosts.
LOL!!!
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Gavgoyle
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One day we could raid the nonexistant shores of Ustalav and fight vampires, flesh golems, and ghosts.
Ustalav is bordered by Lake Encarthan on the south. So, weigh anchors and wear their guts for gearters!
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The seasinger bard archetype already has the option of getting a parrot familiar - should we assume these rules (which change the skill bonus for having a parrot) apply to that archetype as well?No. The seasinger bard gets a special type of parrot familiar.
Yes, a very special type of parrot familiar. It's called a monkey! =D
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ciretose
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Hello power creep...
When you make exotic better than standard for the same cost, you might as well just make the exotic the standard.
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Hello power creep...
When you make exotic better than standard for the same cost, you might as well just make the exotic the standard.
Since you're probably referring to the +4 initiative, UM has a "standard" familiar that also gives that bonus.
Interestingly, I just realized that almost every familiar gives what's essentially a bonus feat that doesn't scale. Most give Skill Focus, some give Iron Will / Great Fort / Lightning Reflexes. And I guess some give Improved Init.
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Dodo Familiars..Tuesday Next where are you
I believe Pickwick belongs to Thursday, not to Tuesday.
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Varthanna
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Hello power creep...
When you make exotic better than standard for the same cost, you might as well just make the exotic the standard.
Since you're probably referring to the +4 initiative, UM has a "standard" familiar that also gives that bonus.
Interestingly, I just realized that almost every familiar gives what's essentially a bonus feat that doesn't scale. Most give Skill Focus, some give Iron Will / Great Fort / Lightning Reflexes. And I guess some give Improved Init.
the +4 init familiar existed back in the 3.5 days, too. It was a hummingbird option presented in Dragon (paizo-published).
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I am glad people enjoyed these, I was a little leary of them when Wes put them on the assignment list, but I am glad people are enjoying them.
As to the Dodo there is a great deal of contreversy about thier extiction, they were in an isolated area of the island and were domesticated by some sailors (though the idea of a fat dodo is due to overfeeding not thier natural state).
The only record about their diet described them as "Jaunty and audacious of gait" which is why I made them a bonus to initiative.
There is just so little anyone knows about the dodo.
Steven D. Russell
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I am hurt and crushed at the exclusion of the beloved albatross.
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Rob McCreary
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I am hurt and crushed at the exclusion of the beloved albatross.
If you really want an albatross familiar, you could use the stats for an eagle. Keep in mind that an eagle (or an albatross) is a Small animal, rather than the normal Tiny size of most familiars. That's the main reason albatross wasn't included - we don't yet have a Small flying familiar in the game.
