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RPG Superstar: Encounter Challenge Preview

Thursday, February 16, 2012

Voting for RPG Superstar Round 3 continues, and the competitors are gearing up for Round 4: Design an Encounter with Map!

We’re revealing the finished Round 4 rules on Friday. In the meantime, here’s a preview of the two twists we’re adding to the encounter round this year.

Twist #1: All creatures appearing in your encounter must be drawn from the miniatures in the Heroes & Monsters set of the Pathfinder Battles minis line!

Twist #2: The Round 4 entries are revealed on February 28, but voting doesn’t start until a week later because we’ve added a week for open playtesting of the encounters!

Voting closes on Monday, February 20th and the Top 8 winners are announced on Tuesday, February 21st. In the meantime, competitors should look over last year’s Round 4 rules and FAQ.

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Cheliax

Is anyone else thinking "Skirmish game extravaganza!!!"?

Fun times are in store for us Paizo fans, I must say. Now I just need to start my new job so I can get my hands on those minis!

Star Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014

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Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Maps Subscriber

Holy wow. Open playtest of RPGSS entries? That is definitely a way to find out what works and what doesn't!

Huge twist and totally Paizo!

Cheliax RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Marathon Voter 2014 aka Boxhead

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Ha! That's crazy awesome!

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Marathon Voter 2014

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Oh my...*runs off to study the Heroes & Monsters lineup*

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014 aka John Benbo

That's a cool idea. As a former round 4 competitor I would have loved to have the feedback of an actual playtest.

Andoran RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014 aka Draconas

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Nice twist this year, Paizo.

Here is a quick breakdown of monster by type (with Bestiary base CRs) in the Heroes and Monsters set for the contestants to reference.

Heroes And Monsters:
--Animal--
Dire Rat (CR 1/3)
Wolf (CR 1)
Venomous Snake (CR 1)

--Dragon--
Black Dragon, ancient (CR 16)

--Humanoid--
Dwarf Fighter (CR 1/2+)
Elf Wizard (CR 1/2+)
Gnome Fighter (CR 1/2+)
Half-elf Cleric (CR 1/2+)
Half-orc Barbarian (CR 1/2+)
Human Druid (CR 1/2+)
Human Ranger (CR 1/2+)
Human Rogue (CR 1/2+)
Orc Brute (CR 1/2+)
Orc Warrior (CR 1/3)
Seelah, Human Paladin (CR 1/2+)
Watch Guard (CR 1/2+)
Watch Officer (CR 1/2+)

--Humanoid(Giant)--
Ettin (CR 6)
Frost Giant (CR 9)
Ogre (CR 3)
Troll (CR 5)

--Humanoid(Goblinoid)--
Goblin Hero, red & blue (CR 1/2+)
Goblin Warrior, red & blue (CR 1/3)

--Humanoid(Reptilian)--
Lizardfolk Champion (CR 1+)

--Humanoid(Shapechanger)--
Werewolf (CR 2)

--Magical Beast--
Chimera (CR 7)
Manticore (CR 5)

--Monstrous Humanoid--
Gargoyle (CR 4)
Medusa (CR 7)
Minotaur (CR 4)

--Outsider(Chaotic)--
Demon, Succubus (CR 7)

--Undead--
Lich (CR 12)
Mummy (CR 5)
Skeleton (CR 1/3)
Spectre (CR 7)
Vampire (CR 9)
Zombie (CR 1/2)

--Vermin--
Giant Caveweaver Spider (CR 2?)
Giant Spider (CR 1)

RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor

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Oh, sure, Joshua! Make it easy on them! C'mon, man! Where's the challenge and the nail-biting now? ;-P

Andoran RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014 aka Draconas

Those three days fly by fast enough even with any little bit of help thrown their way, I'm not concerned about making it too easy for them, Neil. ;)

Star Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014

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Neil Spicer wrote:
C'mon, man! Where's the challenge and the nail-biting now? ;-P

I agree. Way too nice and too easy. They shoulda hadta work to find the list!! ;/

RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor

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But that's just it: They get way more than 3 days now. The Round 4 rules will be revealed on Friday when voting closes rather than on Tuesday when the Round 3 results are revealed. That means everyone will have a full 7-day week to design their encounter. That's more than twice what we got during our run!

And, on top of that, they get to know the "twist" right now, a good 10 days before the next round begins? And they got 300 words for their wondrous item submissions, when the first two years we only got 200?! They've got it easy, I tell ya! That's why I say make'em sweat!!! ;-D

Star Voter 2013

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I'm wondering what twist#3 is.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Marathon Voter 2014

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And we don't even have to walk uphill barefoot through piles of snow to get to an internet cafe to send in our entries. Now we got this fancy interwebz right in our homes. Yup, we're definitly a bunch of spoiled brats.

Andoran RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014 aka Draconas

I see it as more time to work on some nice maps. Don't rush it or make it too busy/sparse. Strike a balance of design, creativity, and functionality.

Silver Crusade Dedicated Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales Subscriber

OOH, clever and tricky. Differentiating the encounters will rely on:

1- Interesting map/terrain features. This is the big one, terrain which encourages interesting actions besides: "I cast", "I attack".

2- Clever use of class levels/templates. This will determine a lot, GMs will need to be able to use the minis out of the box, so large/small templates are out.

3- Clever use of the mini's appearance to clue players in on encounter elements. What is that enormous scroll the Druid is carrying? Or is it perhaps a rolled up flying prayer mat? Teeing off the visuals on the mini should be encouraged.

Good luck, it's going to be tricky for the contestants to keep silent over the course of playtesting. A good encounter is like a good recipe, clear enough instructions that anyone could do it, bit space enough that a GM can add their own signature.

Star Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Maps Subscriber
Jacob Trier wrote:
Yup, we're definitly a bunch of spoiled brats.

You are the one who said it first. ;/

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Dedicated Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014

Jacob Trier wrote:
And we don't even have to walk uphill barefoot through piles of snow to get to an internet cafe to send in our entries.

Ninja'd :)

Star Voter 2013, Star Voter 2014

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Maps Subscriber
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

OOH, clever and tricky. Differentiating the encounters will rely on:

AWESOME STUFF

I can see that 3rd point coming into play really fast. Using some of the humanoid mini means they could be carrying standard gear or magical gear.

Who's a commoner or is that one a spellcaster...?

Lots of great potential in there.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 8 aka shiverscar

Neat!

...

That is all.

Silver Crusade Star Voter 2013

Looks fun! It gets the community involved, besides just for voting.

Star Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014

Woo hoo, some love for minis!
And some play-test too. Paizo wins again :)

Silver Crusade

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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber

So we'll get to throw AM BARBARIAN at these encounters and see if he can half-round them? :)


Does the creature or NPC opponent used in the encounter have to be exactly what the miniature depicts? For example, could you use the minotaur miniatures but add class levels of oracle to them for the encounter design?

Contributor

Power Word Unzip wrote:
Does the creature or NPC opponent used in the encounter have to be exactly what the miniature depicts? For example, could you use the minotaur miniatures but add class levels of oracle to them for the encounter design?

The full details are in the R4 rules, which you'll see tomorrow or Monday, but yes, you can customize the monsters by adding templates or class levels, as long as the root of it is still the actual monster represented by the mini. For example, you couldn't use a goblin mini to represent a barghest, but you could use it to represent a goblin barbarian or a goblin wererat.

Shadow Lodge Marathon Voter 2013, Marathon Voter 2014

Neil Spicer wrote:

But that's just it: They get way more than 3 days now. The Round 4 rules will be revealed on Friday when voting closes rather than on Tuesday when the Round 3 results are revealed. That means everyone will have a full 7-day week to design their encounter. That's more than twice what we got during our run!

And, on top of that, they get to know the "twist" right now, a good 10 days before the next round begins? And they got 300 words for their wondrous item submissions, when the first two years we only got 200?! They've got it easy, I tell ya! That's why I say make'em sweat!!! ;-D

Neil, don't forget to remind them how you had to walk uphill both ways to your computer barefooted in the snow while you were competing! I love that part of the story!

EDIT: I see Jacob Trier and I are on the same wavelength...

RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor

I was going to, but I figured I'd end it with a friendly wink and a laugh. ;-D

Shadow Lodge Marathon Voter 2013, Marathon Voter 2014

Neil Spicer wrote:
I was going to, but I figured I'd end it with a friendly wink and a laugh. ;-D

I don't get to check the message boards at work, I guess I'll need to start reading before I start posting from now on. I miss you guys when I'm not here :-)


Gorbacz wrote:
So we'll get to throw AM BARBARIAN at these encounters and see if he can half-round them? :)

Now only if Mr. Fishy would wander from whatever fishbowl Mr. Fishy is hiding in to test to see if it meets TIER FISHY. :)

****

Personally, I'd like to see MR. FISHY and AM BARBARIAN as guest judges for next year. Hilarity would ensue.


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Urizen wrote:
I'd like to see MR. FISHY and AM BARBARIAN as guest judges for next year. Hilarity would ensue.

Statler and Waldorf?


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Urizen wrote:
I'd like to see MR. FISHY and AM BARBARIAN as guest judges for next year. Hilarity would ensue.
Statler and Waldorf?

Essentially!

Spoiler:
you're the 2nd person to mention them to me today; Allen being the first. <insert Twilight zone music>

Andoran RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter 2013, Marathon Voter 2014 aka Locke1520

Neil Spicer wrote:
But that's just it: They get way more than 3 days now. The Round 4 rules will be revealed on Friday when voting closes rather than on Tuesday when the Round 3 results are revealed.

Shouldn't that read Monday rather than Friday at least as far as the voting goes?

RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor

Apparently so.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 4 , Star Voter 2014 aka MillerHero

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Alright, if no one else is going to say it - I will.
Saying that you are revealing the finished Round 4 rules on Friday, then Friday or Monday, then Paizo offices are closed for President's Day - was a nasty, nasty tease.

Contributor

Yeah, I was hoping to get them done on Friday, but it didn't work out. Fortunately, you already had most of the info you needed, so all competitors could start working on a R4 submission before the final rules are posted...

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 4 , Star Voter 2014 aka MillerHero

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Fortunately, you already had most of the info you needed, so all competitors could start working on a R4 submission before the final rules are posted...

Yes, that was nice. Thank you.

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