Dhampir984 |
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I'm so glad that these stone giants are more than just large sized, block grey giants with a club stuck in midswing. I've got plenty of stone giants stuck in that pose. And none actually throwing a dang stone.
Now, there's one rock thrower, a spear wielder and a magic using one?! Are you guys crazy?? YOU CAN'T ROCK THE STATUS QUO!!
LoreKeeper |
That is such a sexy selection of Runelord miniatures! I'm so jealous of the American gamers that can get these reliably. (I don't trust the import to South Africa of figurines like that...)
But when you goin to show us the REAL juicy pieces? A certain lamia matriach. A certain runelord. His blue, winged pet. Give us the awesome!
Jt Squish |
We’re still sorting out the fine details of product format and exact release date, so again, there’s no product page for this set, although I have reason to believe that we’ll have good news to report on that front shortly.
Please tell me if that news is not expected today so I can stop refreshing the comments every 2 minutes, it's killing my smart phone's battery and disputing my work day.
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
Kassegore |
Oh Paizo how you tease me!. After 16 months intrigue, mysteries, epic battles and a few side quests my players are finally about to battle Mokmurian during next Monday's session. Oh how I wish these Mini's came out a year ago. I have to admit i'm enjoying all the Runelord love this year. Good choice for your anniversary celebration. Keep up the magnificent work!
On the plus side, perhaps there will some significant overlap with the Shattered Star adventure path?
-Duane-
Dhampir984 |
Please tell me if that news is not expected today so I can stop refreshing the comments every 2 minutes, it's killing my smart phone's battery and disputing my work day.
Judging by Erik's previous comments on minis, previews and product pages, I'd wager that 'shortly' was less literal in terms of minutes and more abstractly in terms of days.
He is absolutely free to prove me wrong any second now, tho.
Jt Squish |
Jt Squish wrote:Please tell me if that news is not expected today so I can stop refreshing the comments every 2 minutes, it's killing my smart phone's battery and disputing my work day.Judging by Eric's previous comments on minis, previews and product pages, I'd wager that 'shortly' was less literal in terms of minutes and more abstractly in terms of days.
He is absolutely free to prove me wrong any second now, tho.
The logic part of my brain tells me exactly what you're saying here, but the "OMGIWANTNOW!!1!" part of my brain won't let me stop refreshing. It's a disease, I'm sure.
Shivok |
Great Job!
I am more interested in the packaging model.
Will the RotRL mini's be packedged similiarly to the Galactic Guardians Heroclix set?
In that set one case has 2 bricks with 2 Colossal sized minis, and 16 packages similiar to the old D&D minis where they have 5 figures in them or 1 large and 3 med/small minis.For a total of about of about 82 minis (2 colossal/garagantuan size, and 16 large, 48 medium small.
Will the cost be similiar as well?
The pricing for the super-booster(colossal size) is $29.99
the booster with 5 minis is $9.99
The total cost for a case would be just under $220.00
I'm hoping you guys can now get better terms with the success of the intial mini's. Maybe bring down the price.
Dhampir984 |
The logic part of my brain tells me exactly what you're saying here, but the "OMGIWANTNOW!!1!" part of my brain won't let me stop refreshing. It's a disease, I'm sure.
I know it is. I think some folks in the off topic forum have a name and full diagnosis for it. Complete with all symptoms written out.
Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper |
Having a variety of stone giants to use will be great. I'm not normally a big fan of having minis perched / mounted on terrain, but the sculpts look good overall. Mokmurian looks great! I also really like the dire bear -- it has a nice look of fierceness, without appearing cartoonish.
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JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
Eric Mona said wrote:We’re still sorting out the fine details of product format and exact release date, so again, there’s no product page for this set, although I have reason to believe that we’ll have good news to report on that front shortly.Please tell me if that news is not expected today so I can stop refreshing the comments every 2 minutes, it's killing my smart phone's battery and disputing my work day.
Not expecting news today. Frankly, I'll be surprised if everything comes together by next week's preview blog, so there's no need to panic or check back every 10 minutes or whatever.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Great Job!
I am more interested in the packaging model....
Will the cost be similiar as well?
These are exactly the types of question that WizKids is in the final stages of nailing down answers for. And no, we won't have them today. *Maybe* we'll have them next week... or maybe the week after.
Jt Squish |
Jt Squish wrote:Eric Mona said wrote:We’re still sorting out the fine details of product format and exact release date, so again, there’s no product page for this set, although I have reason to believe that we’ll have good news to report on that front shortly.Please tell me if that news is not expected today so I can stop refreshing the comments every 2 minutes, it's killing my smart phone's battery and disputing my work day.Not expecting news today. Frankly, I'll be surprised if everything comes together by next week's preview blog, so there's no need to panic or check back every 10 minutes or whatever.
*whew* I'm actually relieved to hear that. These minis look amazing and I look forward to every Friday because of these posts, thank you for keeping us in the loop and for all the work you put into these posts. Guess there's nothing left to do but keep calm and carry on.
Steel_Wind |
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The Problem with Being So Awesome
I know that the practicalities and "inside baseball" project management on an AP which militate against this are very considerable in strength, but...
BUT the entire IDEA of buying a new Adventure Path without an awesome plastic-crack miniature set like Rise of the Runelords supporting that AP is beginning to feel and sound decidedly ... inferior? Yes, that's the word: inferior.
As in "inferior good".
I don't know if a pre-assembled set list of "Monsters and NPC descriptions you MUST include prominently in your AP manuscript" being distributed to your freelancers with every AP outline is going to effect their design creativity in a significant way or otherwise reduce the quality of the writing in subsequent Adventure Paths.
Whatever the case, I don't see a way around that sort of new approach unless you are going to dramatically increase the lead time of your production pipleline for Pathfinder Adventure Path -- and in a very shot period of time, too.
Because your fans? Probably the ones who spend the most money of all your customers buying all of your prodcuts, regularly, are going to demand those miniature sets with at least ONE of your APs a year (if not both of them).
That's the problem with these minis being so awesome. It creates significant customer expectations that become difficult to fulfill.
Pitchforks, torches, it's gonna get ugly I tell you - UGLY!!
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
Dhampir984 |
*whew* I'm actually relieved to hear that. These minis look amazing and I look forward to every Friday because of these posts, thank you for keeping us in the loop and for all the work you put into these posts. Guess there's nothing left to do but keep calm and carry on.
See? Now you can try and save the phone battery. Or say 'screw it' and stay around here all day anyways. ;)
Jt Squish |
Jt Squish wrote:*whew* I'm actually relieved to hear that. These minis look amazing and I look forward to every Friday because of these posts, thank you for keeping us in the loop and for all the work you put into these posts. Guess there's nothing left to do but keep calm and carry on.See? Now you can try and save the phone battery. Or say 'screw it' and stay around here all day anyways. ;)
It it's oh so hard to stay away from the blogy goodness, if I leave now who knows what I'll miss?!
Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper |
I will submit that "difficult" is not equal to "impossible."
I can't speak to future sets beyond Rise of the Runelords, but I can say that Paizo is pretty awesome, and I'll leave it at that.
Although it would be great if AP's and minis releases could coincide, I do not feel that it is necessary. From my perspective as a GM I always have a campaign or two underway, so I am not able to start a campaign as soon as an AP is released. I also like to take time to read though the AP's, do the necessary preparation work and add in some custom content. This usually means that I am starting an AP at least 3 months after it's first release.
So, having said that, I cannot help but feel that there are likely many other GM's in the same predicament. Accordingly, if minis for an AP were released 3-6 months after the release of an AP... it would actually be a good thing.
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
Cat-thulhu |
Vic Wertz wrote:I hope that, even though he's a stone giant runt, he's still bigger than the runtiest runt that ever runted (ie, the troll).JoelF847 wrote:Is Mokmurian's mini shorter than the other stone giant minis, since he's supposed to be a bit of a runt (though still Large sized)?Yep.
Mokmurian appears to be about the same size as the Ogre from the previous set. the other giants look about the same size as those made by wizards, if not a little larger. My only concern, and lets face it with a set this awesome I'm really just nit picking here, is that the spear hafts look a bit thin. Wizards made a set of death titans and giants with axes with super thin hafts and these just looked wrong and bend at odd angles all the time. Hard to gauge form these minis - arethey as thin as they look?
On a side note - I assume all of these will continue to have the harder plastic bases from H&M? These bases are far superior to the softies from other ranges.
Kalraan |
I bought a case of minis and they are fantastic. These new minis look fantastic as well. May I suggest however that Eco-friendliness was not friends of either Paizo or Wizkids when the decision on the packaging was made. If there is a way to cut down on this packaging, I would even submit to have more randomness than chewing up more of the environment with the boxes and plastic that the housed the Heroes and Monsters before their timely release from their cardboard and plastic prison.
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
GentleGiant |
I think the biggest problem with putting the minis out at the same time as the AP would be spoiling the adventures. If the players can see what they'll be up against in the AP, I think it creates a problem.
On the other hand, you do need the minis for the AP, so...
Maybe some kind of survey would be in order? To find out how long after the release of an AP people actually start playing it?
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
Gururamalamaswami |
I was initially sceptical about the Pathfinder minis line. Got burned too many times with the D&D Minis y'know.
However, no company in the history of our hobby has ever supported its products the way Paizo is. The different options (Paper Minis, cardboard counter minis, Reaper Miniatures, and now the Wizkids products) is just staggering.
You guys are awesome.
Fredrik |
They are all one-piece miniatures, so none of them should be missing parts. Generally speaking, Pathfinder Battles miniatures should not be missing parts at all, and WizKids is happy to help out anyone who receives damaged minis.
Speaking as one of the few on the case content experience thread that had any problems, it only took a few bucks and a few minutes to use the Loctite Plastics Bonding System to fix my frost giant's right arm, as recommended by a fellow poster. It was even easier than asking for a replacement.
From the reports, it seems that damage is very unlikely to happen, and usually easily fixable when it does. (Though I hear that DDM was even bendier, there are still more bendy issues than breaky ones -- please don't overreact by making the plastic softer.) I am a very satisfied customer, and looking forward to this next set.
Cat-thulhu |
...please don't overreact by making the plastic softer.) I am a very satisfied customer, and looking forward to this next set.
Here, here. The slightly harder plastic means less of that annoying distortion and floppiness that plagued DDM, especially where weapons were concerned. I haven'y experienced a single breakage, and I'm far from gentle in storing my minis. Oh, and I love the rocks under the giants - allows the pose to be a little more dynamic and exciting, just look at the rock throwing giant! One leg raised leaning to one side - take away the rock and he looses that.
Cat-thulhu |
I would consider that timeframe more or less "concurrent," frankly.
Is that an insight into the future of AP's and minis? Or am I just dreaming?
They are all one-piece miniatures, so none of them should be missing parts. Generally speaking, Pathfinder Battles miniatures should not be missing parts at all, and WizKids is happy to help out anyone who receives damaged minis.
That's some awesome molding technology - are they really one piece? And considering you canny folk there, these are probably just the tip of the iceberg - the best is still yet to come!
Aaron aka Itchy |
We are working on different packaging options, which is one of the reasons we haven't posted the product page or announced a formal release date yet.
When DW and I opened up the case that my gaming group bought we were amazed at the amount of packaging, but understood why it was there. We had pretty much purchased 4 store displays. It was not really an issue, though, since all of the packaging is recyclable in our area.
We stacked up the extruded plastic parts by mushing them together, flattened all the cardboard, and dropped it all in the recycling bin. That would have been the end of the problem if our trash day had not been a windy one. Little. Boxes. Everywhere.
Dhampir984 |
It it's oh so hard to stay away from the blogy goodness, if I leave now who knows what I'll miss?!
It's always a danger to leave this site unattended. Especially the Friday blog. Erik has has the best dru... er, stuff.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
That's some awesome molding technology - are they really one piece? And considering you canny folk there, these are probably just the tip of the iceberg - the best is still yet to come!
What Erik meant by "one piece" is that there are no minis in the Runelords set that *come from the factory* in more than one piece (as opposed to the Heroes & Monsters Frost Giant, which has interchangable weapons).
Many of these minis are manufactured in multiple pieces. (Actually, nearly all of them are, given that the bases are usually molded separately.)
Berk the Black |
I, too, like the rocks on the Stone Giant bases and the poses it allows the giants to take.
And I do find myself trying to be more careful with the minis since the plastic is a little harder, but they still end up being loosely crammed into travel boxes and have been none the worse for the wear. I'll take the better detail afforded by a little more brittleness any day.
Cat-thulhu |
Cat-thulhu wrote:That's some awesome molding technology - are they really one piece? And considering you canny folk there, these are probably just the tip of the iceberg - the best is still yet to come!What Erik meant by "one piece" is that there are no minis in the Runelords set that *come from the factory* in more than one piece (as opposed to the Heroes & Monsters Frost Giant, which has interchangable weapons).
Many of these minis are manufactured in multiple pieces. (Actually, nearly all of them are, given that the bases are usually molded separately.)
Thats kind of what I thought was the case. So any idea when we will see the rune gi...err, case incentive (hope, hope).
Also an idea to answer the size judging queries. Could you not put the figure next to one of the same scale fro mheroes and monsters? Or even just a silhouette of one. It's pretty easy to gauge scale but a visual would make it much easier. Other than that, I thank you - but my bank account does not...