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Pathfinder Battles Preview: From Digital Renders to Final Product

Friday, December 30, 2011

When we first started revealing images from the Pathfinder Battles Heroes & Monsters set, all we had to show off were the very earliest computer-rendered images from the first few weeks of production. These gave a good idea of the quality we were shooting for with this first set of prepainted miniatures, but the digital renders lacked some of the depth and paint steps of the final miniatures.

Now that we’ve revealed the complete set in one way or the other and we stand on the precipice of the actual release, I wanted to go back through the set and update a few minis that you’ve only seen in digital form thus far. Below are actual photos of actual miniatures from the Heroes & Monsters set.

This little guy was one of the very first digital renders we revealed way back in August. Here’s the wily Gnome Fighter in all his final glory, complete with a tankard on his belt and bright orange hair to terrify his enemies. This uncommon miniature comes packed with the Dire Rat we showed off two weeks ago.

Next up is the rare Half-Orc Barbarian, one of the set’s most complex figures in terms of pose and detail. This figure looks wonderful in-hand, and makes a fantastic mini for the archetypal, well, half-orc barbarian. Good? Bad? He’s the one with the axe.

This rare Vampire, on the other hand, is all bad guy. WizKids did a great job bringing out the complex detail on the Vampire’s stylish armor. Whether he gets you with his upraised sword, his nasty fangs, or his essence-draining touch, the Vampire will get you one way or the other.

This sexy lady with red demon wings is looking for a good time, and promises a kiss you will never forget (note: do not actually make out with your Pathfinder Battles figures). She’s the rare Succubus, and she’s not pleased with your remark that Bettie Page hairdos are so 2002.

This bad boy, the rare Troll, leaps off the cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary to menace your gaming table. Sure, he looks a little like he’s got his hands in the air like he just don’t care, but those jazz hands will tear your player character to shreds, which will then be devoured by his jazz tusks. He will kick your azz.

Speaking of kicking ass, here’s the coolest mini in the whole set, the promotional Huge Black Dragon! This promotional miniature will be shipping to Pathfinder Battles case subscribers and folks who pre-ordered before October 1st, and was produced in extremely limited quantities. It is supremely awesome.

Also awesome: The more than 25 paint masters for the next set, Rise of the Runelords, that WizKids brought over for approval this afternoon. I won’t be revealing any of those until after Heroes & Monsters is out, but when I crassly mentioned how I thought you guys would react upon seeing them, James Jacobs was friendly enough to offer two G-rated corrections. In his words, you will “poop your pantaloons,” or “brown your britches.”

I couldn’t have said it better (or cleaner) myself!

Erik Mona
Publisher

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Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Maps Subscriber

Still loving these guys! Any chance you could make the huge black dragon photo, well, more huge? I'd love to get a better look at the detailing on that guy. :)


I am very pleased that the final release pictures for every miniature seem to be better than the initial glimpses we got. The most profound improvement has to be the Giant Rat. I can't wait to get a set in my hands to truly appreciate the detail put into each and every one!

On a seperate issue, is the Half-Orc Barbarian Uncommon or Rare? I'm getting mixed messages here.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Cards, Companion, Maps, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Any news as to when the boat should arrive with minis in tow??? Sorry, just anxious is all...

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Dhampir984 wrote:
Still loving these guys! Any chance you could make the huge black dragon photo, well, more huge? I'd love to get a better look at the detailing on that guy. :)

Try this

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

Erp. The Half-Orc Barbarian is rare. The blog has been fixed. Sorry about the mix-up!

Cheliax

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Ross Byers wrote:
Dhampir984 wrote:
Still loving these guys! Any chance you could make the huge black dragon photo, well, more huge? I'd love to get a better look at the detailing on that guy. :)
Try this

There's a dedicated paint step for the tongue? Are we actually getting that color?

Paizo Employee CEO

Kvantum wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Dhampir984 wrote:
Still loving these guys! Any chance you could make the huge black dragon photo, well, more huge? I'd love to get a better look at the detailing on that guy. :)
Try this
There's a dedicated paint step for the tongue? Are we actually getting that color?

That is a final mini, so...yep!

-Lisa

Cheliax

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
the Haunted Jester wrote:
Any news as to when the boat should arrive with minis in tow??? Sorry, just anxious is all...

Subscribers got an email last night saying they're in, and will be going out next week...

Cheliax

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Cards, Companion, Maps, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Enlight_Bystand wrote:
the Haunted Jester wrote:
Any news as to when the boat should arrive with minis in tow??? Sorry, just anxious is all...
Subscribers got an email last night saying they're in, and will be going out next week...

Ah, I am not a subscriber but I did order a case before October 1st. Woot!! Thanks EB!!


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Ross Byers wrote:
Try this

Thanks Ross! Much awesomeness. :)

Paizo Employee Developer

the Haunted Jester wrote:
Any news as to when the boat should arrive with minis in tow??? Sorry, just anxious is all...

Customs pays little attention to heroes, but the monsters might hold the process up...

All joking aside, these are set to start shipping to case subscribers next week.

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

The official street date for Heroes & Monsters is January 11.


The huge black dragon is fabulous! It makes me anticipate the white one coming in Rise of the Runelords even more! How is you guys are causing me to replace a lot of minis I already own? You must be doing something right! Keep it up. I'm already starting to tuck away funds for June...


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

The black dragon looks great. Looking forward to seeing the final images of this set before its shipped.

The Pathfinder Minis gallery has been updated:

www.pathfinderminis.com

Cheliax

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I'm not sure if this is a blog question or an "ask James Jacobs" question but on an Depends incontinence scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being bad night at the movie theater with old pop corn and stale corn butter and 10 being so sick from eating unknown animal parts from a questionable three wheeled side cart in Bankok after a bender with my boys to stave off hunger because I did hallucinogens from Amsterdam that were smuggled in the pants of a Somoan percussionist - just how much “poop my pantaloons" or “brown my britches" are we talking here?

I try to keep my soiling jeans ready for those times.

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:

I'm not sure if this is a blog question or an "ask James Jacobs" question but on an Depends incontinence scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being bad night at the movie theater with old pop corn and stale corn butter and 10 being so sick from eating unknown animal parts from a questionable three wheeled side cart in Bankok after a bender with my boys to stave off hunger because I did hallucinogens from Amsterdam that were smuggled in the pants of a Somoan percussionist - just how much “poop my pantaloons" or “brown my britches" are we talking here?

I try to keep my soiling jeans ready for those times.

I answered this on the other thread... but I'll repeat it here.

8.6 on the Britches Browning Scale.


is there a way you could get a photo of all of the minis together so that way we could see how huge the "Huge Black Dragon" looks next to the other ones?

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Doku Kokoro wrote:
is there a way you could get a photo of all of the minis together so that way we could see how huge the "Huge Black Dragon" looks next to the other ones?

Taking the pics from the blog and the dragon pic Ross generously provided, and assuming the bases on the vampire, troll and dragon are 1", 2" and 3" respectively, you can assemble a picture that approximates the scaling.

I have done so, but I'm not sure if posting the pic is against community use. I won't do so until I get an ok.

Is that permitted?

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

Nah, we'll just take a picture and post it next week. A complete set shot is a great idea.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Erik Mona wrote:
Nah, we'll just take a picture and post it next week. A complete set shot is a great idea.

Moving forward, could we have easy access to the highest-resolution photographs that you have the capability to give us? I understand the need for smaller pictures, especially thumbnails, but sometimes I am willing to spend the time to download detailed pictures.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Daniel Powell 318 wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Nah, we'll just take a picture and post it next week. A complete set shot is a great idea.
Moving forward, could we have easy access to the highest-resolution photographs that you have the capability to give us? I understand the need for smaller pictures, especially thumbnails, but sometimes I am willing to spend the time to download detailed pictures.

WizKids has recommended that we not post extremely high-res images of the minis, as they really don't do the actual product any justice.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber
Vic Wertz wrote:
WizKids has recommended that we not post extremely high-res images of the minis, as they really don't do the actual product any justice.

To be fair, while I agree with what they're saying in theory, low-res web photos do them far less justice. When I got my Heroes of Battle set, there was a lot of "oh, THAT's what that cluster of four pixels were!"

Maybe there's a happy medium?

On the other hand, I have photographed some minis that I hand-painted that I was exceptionally proud of. The photos made me cringe, exposing every flaw, regardless of how invisible it was at normal scale.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Anguish wrote:
On the other hand, I have photographed some minis that I hand-painted that I was exceptionally proud of. The photos made me cringe, exposing every flaw, regardless of how invisible it was at normal scale.

Yep, that's the problem. If we were able to have a professional photographer spend hours on each minis shoot, we'd probably be able to show them a bit bigger, but that's not in the cards right now.

I'd rather have you pleasantly surprised by the details in the real mini than have you turned off by flaws that you wouldn't perceive in the actual product.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Vic Wertz wrote:


WizKids has recommended that we not post extremely high-res images of the minis, as they really don't do the actual product any justice.

*Twitch*

I can understand not posting hi-res versions of the computer renders, or of the intermediate steps, or macro shots, or exceptionally bad photography. But I can't believe that shots like the two ~1000x600 ones linked above do anything but justice to the work.

I'm already going to use my jewler's goggles to inspect every last one of them. I am going to find flaws in them: paint overruns, visible mold marks, seams, and the other unavoidable aspects of dealing with a matter. I obsess too much over the minis I paint myself to do any less over yours.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Have the mini's arrived at the warehouse, when should I expect them to ship?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Victor Seward wrote:
Have the mini's arrived at the warehouse, when should I expect them to ship?

We've been shipping to subscribers all week... but note that if you have a regular Paizo sub in addition to your Battles sub, and you've set your shipping preference to "Hold For Monthly Shipment," then we're holding your minis to go out with the other stuff in a couple of weeks. If you need more info on that, please consult this thread.

(We did send emails to subscribers explaining all this... have you checked your spam filter?)


Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber
Daniel Powell 318 wrote:
I'm already going to use my jewler's goggles to inspect every last one of them. I am going to find flaws in them: paint overruns, visible mold marks, seams, and the other unavoidable aspects of dealing with a matter. I obsess too much over the minis I paint myself to do any less over yours.

Understood. I'm obsessive about things as well; campaign backstory comes to mind.

But you do understand that publishing hi-res pictures that make obvious flaws that would only be visible via a jeweler's loupe kind of forces that sort of obsession on everyone, right?

Just saying :)

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