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Aspis Hunter (Fame 20, 2 PP) You gain special training in foiling the efforts of the Society's largest external enemy, the Aspis Consortium. You gain a +1 bonus on attack rolls and on weapon damage rolls against Aspis agents who wear clearly visible insignia showing their affiliation and rank.
Maybe all Aspis Consortium agents receive distinctive combat training, which the Society allows only its most trusted field agents to learn and exploit. (After all, if Valsin told everybody in the Society, he'd be teling the Consortium double agents.) Othrwise, it seems odd to me to have training that works against a human rogue who's an Aspis agent, but not against his twin brother who's dressed as an Aspis agent.
And I assume that the bonus is in effect if you know somebody's an agent, even if she strips off the identifying insignia. (Most Aspis agents don't wear clearly-visible identifying insignia in the first place, do they?)
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Aspis Hunter (Fame 20, 2 PP) You gain special training in foiling the efforts of the Society's largest external enemy, the Aspis Consortium. You gain a +1 bonus on attack rolls and on weapon damage rolls against Aspis agents who wear clearly visible insignia showing their affiliation and rank.
Maybe all Aspis Consortium agents receive distinctive combat training, which the Society allows only its most trusted field agents to learn and exploit. (After all, if Valsin told everybody in the Society, he'd be teling the Consortium double agents.) Othrwise, it seems odd to me to have training that works against a human rogue who's an Aspis agent, but not against his twin brother who's dressed as an Aspis agent.
And I assume that the bonus is in effect if you know somebody's an agent, even if she strips off the identifying insignia. (Most Aspis agents don't wear clearly-visible identifying insignia in the first place, do they?)
For home games, it's up to the GM, honestly. For Pathfinder Society games, you can assume that any NPC agent of the Aspis Consortium you fight will qualify for this extra damage (and is wearing his colors with pride) unless the adventure specifically says that they're in disguise. Once the PCs know that the dude's working for the Aspis Consortium, though, they should get the bonus anyway. It's not like such a specific +1 bonus on attack and damage is gonna break games.
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Since very early in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign's history, folks have asked not to belong to a faction, wanting to play a Pathfinder first and foremost...
Finally!! A faction so plain Jane that Pathfinders even less imaginative than Andorans have a place to congregate !
Their Faction shirt should have the slogan "I Fail Will Saves" on the back. Hey Mark there's an idea, slogans on the back of Factions shirts.
Can Cheliax's slogan be: "No need to cower and prostrate, Metania will suffice."
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Finally!! A faction so plain Jane that Pathfinders even less imaginative than Andorans have a place to congregate! Their Faction shirt should have the slogan "I Fail Will Saves" on the back.
Um, hi, arem.
This seems to be needlessly provocative. There are people who are just as imaginative as the next fellow, but aren't interested in internescene secret wars.
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With this, we have our first faction where the faction leader is also a member of the Pathfinder Society himself/ herself. Or is that the case?
I've always understood folks like the Paracountess and Baron Jacquo to be outsiders, agents of their governments, using the Pathfinder PCs to further their goals. I never imagined that they were Pathfinders themselves. (I certainly can't imagine the paracountess going on random item-grubbing missions.) But a recent scenario suggests otherwise.
What has been your take, folks? Have you understood that the faction leaders have been "loyal" to the Pathfinder Society, under the yoke of the Decembrivate and Venture Captains?
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Finally!! A faction so plain Jane that Pathfinders even less imaginative than Andorans have a place to congregate! Their Faction shirt should have the slogan "I Fail Will Saves" on the back.Um, hi, arem.
This seems to be needlessly provocative. There are people who are just as imaginative as the next fellow, but aren't interested in internescene secret wars.
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With this, we have our first faction where the faction leader is also a member of the Pathfinder Society himself/ herself. Or is that the case?
I've always understood folks like the Paracountess and Baron Jacquo to be outsiders, agents of their governments, using the Pathfinder PCs to further their goals. I never imagined that they were Pathfinders themselves. (I certainly can't imagine the paracountess going on random item-grubbing missions.) But a recent scenario suggests otherwise.
What has been your take, folks? Have you understood that the faction leaders have been "loyal" to the Pathfinder Society, under the yoke of the Decembrivate and Venture Captains?
As I've understood it, the faction leaders are those highest in the pathfinders who are trying to gain extra prestige in their own countries. They may be spies, they may be double agents, but they are still high ranking pathfinders that were either appointed or approached by their governments (in the original 5 faction cases) to look out for their interests when a pathfinder mission might bring an asset close to a target.
Actually.... I think of them as CIA agents, and the PCS as their assets.
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The original 5 faction heads were not members of the Pathfinder Society, nor are the changing to be so, but we are playing up their alliance with the Society from here on in. Several of the new faction heads are either members of the Society or former members, and all of the ten heads are considered friends of the organization. After all, it's in the Society's best interest to have allies within the governments of the most powerful Inner Sea nations and other influential world organizations.
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The original 5 faction heads were not members of the Pathfinder Society.
Okay, then, Mark, I have a question. It involves a Season 2 adventure.
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The original 5 faction heads were not members of the Pathfinder Society.Okay, then, Mark, I have a question. It involves a Season 2 adventure.
** spoiler omitted **
Mark's answer is clear in his post. The faction heads are allied with the Society. As such, allies are usually considered to be loyal right?
... of the most powerful Inner Sea nations and other influential world organizations.
Hmmmm ...
Very interresting.
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So is the new "none" option in the PFS character registration section really the Grand Lodge faction or is that something else?
It may also have to do with the First Steps scenerios coming out in July. My understanding is that they are an introduction to the factions and therefore you would not have to choose your faction until you have played all three and are second level.
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Have the Rules been released so you can change Faction's?
The new factions will be fully revealed shortly before GenCon when the new Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play gets released. The Guide will probably explain the procedure for changing your faction. So enjoy the teasers and hope that August hurrys up, else freeze yourself a-la Eric Cartman ;)
I have my reservations about this faction..mainly because it would be in the Decemvirates interest to screw up the other factions.Can we have assurances that the faction missions for this will not be designed to ruin those of other players?
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I have my reservations about this faction..mainly because it would be in the Decemvirates interest to screw up the other factions.Can we have assurances that the faction missions for this will not be designed to ruin those of other players?
Why are some guys so determined to be worried that these new factions are going to be geared towards screwing over the old factions? There is no PvP, and the powers that be are determined (for good reasons) to keep it that way. Why do you need some official assurance? Just trust that things are going to work out.
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Why are some guys so determined to be worried that these new factions are going to be geared towards screwing over the old factions? There is no PvP, and the powers that be are determined (for good reasons) to keep it that way. Why do you need some official assurance? Just trust that things are going to work out.
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Why are some guys so determined to be worried that these new factions are going to be geared towards screwing over the old factions? There is no PvP, and the powers that be are determined (for good reasons) to keep it that way. Why do you need some official assurance? Just trust that things are going to work out.
The way I read the initial post is that the Grand Lodge missions are usually going to tie in with the primary missions of the mod so I doubt they'd be actively interfering with the other factions.
Now, I need to ask my fellow Qadirians...how much will you bribe me for Calladavar, bard and spice merchant extraordinaire not to leave for a faction that might be a bit less antignomist!
(mwhahaha must profit in a truly Qadiran manner :P)
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Aww, man! what if one was about to make a wizard or similar caster with damage dealing spells! Why oh why don't they have this damage bonus on their spells as well? This is discrimination!
(not that it concerns my characters, to be honest, I prefer melee combat, or sometimes ranged weaponry, anyway =P)
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I assume you're not actually playing the character yet. Faction changes are not an option.Finally!! A faction so plain Jane that Pathfinders even less imaginative than Andorans have a place to congregate !
Their Faction shirt should have the slogan "I Fail Will Saves" on the back. Hey Mark there's an idea, slogans on the back of Factions shirts.
Can Cheliax's slogan be: "No need to cower and prostrate, Metania will suffice."
*Cheliax faction on this character as a placeholder until Grand Lodge becomes a legal choice for a faction*
Your dissention has been noted and will be reported to the Decemvirate. Have a nice day.
As mentioned upthread, changing your faction is going to be an option in season 3 with the advent of the new 5 options.
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Now, I need to ask my fellow Qadirians...how much will you bribe me for Calladavar, bard and spice merchant extraordinaire not to leave for a faction that might be a bit less antignomist!
(mwhahaha must profit in a truly Qadiran manner :P)
If you need to extort Qadira to pay for someone who wants to willingly go to a money-losing venture group, then Qadira is more than willing to divest itself of you and your failings - HHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.