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3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp) Up to three times per day, you can affect a single creature within 60 feet with a targeted greater dispel magic. Each spell or effect dispelled inflicts fire damage to the target equal to the result of your caster level check made to dispel that effect.
Yikes that is awesome, (thinks about adding a few more levels to Ap18's boss)
At CL 20, assuming they have 5 things to dispel, and you dispel them all on "avg" rolls that is a five buffs gone and ~150 damage
Booo YA!
Since the text mentions a "daily obedience", I guess that failing to perform it forbids you from trying again for 24 hours.
However, the description does not explicitely say so.
When can you next perform your obedience if you failed it ? As soon as you can or do you have to wait till the next day ?
You perform your obedience at the start of a day. For spellcasters, you can roll your obedience ritual into the act of preparing spells. If you skip an obedience, you lose your boons until you DO your obedience. An obedience takes an hour to perform, so whenever you do it doesn't matter. But for ease of game play, assuming you do it at the same time each day is the least annoying. (Note also that the description here is an excerpt—there's more info about obediences and boons and all that in the actual book.)
3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp) Up to three times per day, you can affect a single creature within 60 feet with a targeted greater dispel magic. Each spell or effect dispelled inflicts fire damage to the target equal to the result of your caster level check made to dispel that effect.
Yikes that is awesome, (thinks about adding a few more levels to Ap18's boss)
At CL 20, assuming they have 5 things to dispel, and you dispel them all on "avg" rolls that is a five buffs gone and ~150 damage
Booo YA!
AP 18's boss actually has a prestige class that gets updated in "Lords of Chaos," and if you take that prestige class, you get access to your demon lord's boons earlier...
Upping her level won't be necessary, although said prestige class is now a 10 level class so you'll probably want to swap some levels around...
Why does the term "possession" automatically indicate The Exorcist? I'm sure there are lots of other stories, too?I love that Pazuzu has Possession as his 2nd boon. Is that a little nod to The Exorcist?I would call it a HUGE nod to "The Exorcist." :-)
Probably in this case because Pazuzu is the demon in The Exorcist?
Why does the term "possession" automatically indicate The Exorcist? I'm sure there are lots of other stories, too?I love that Pazuzu has Possession as his 2nd boon. Is that a little nod to The Exorcist?I would call it a HUGE nod to "The Exorcist." :-)
Yeah; the demon that possesses Regan in "The Exorcist" is indeed Pazuzu. Its his statue that faces down Max Von Sydow in the opener. He doesn't actually get name-checked until "The Exorcist II," but I believe he's mentioned by name in Blatty's original novel.
It would be nifty if this system included the rules for what Nualia was attempting to do waaaaaay back in Burnt Offerings.
Sure would, wouldn't it? And if there WERE rules for what she was up to, it'd be even cooler to have a new illustration of Nualia, eh?
If only the guy who wrote that adventure also wrote "Lords of Chaos!" OH WAIT! ;-)
I should actually stop posting to this thread, though, because it makes Sean yell at me.
It would be nifty if this system included the rules for what Nualia was attempting to do waaaaaay back in Burnt Offerings.Sure would, wouldn't it? And if there WERE rules for what she was up to, it'd be even cooler to have a new illustration of Nualia, eh?
If only the guy who wrote that adventure also wrote "Lords of Chaos!" OH WAIT! ;-)
I should actually stop posting to this thread, though, because it makes Sean yell at me.
Haha, cool (the almost reveal, not the yelling).
Why does the term "possession" automatically indicate The Exorcist? I'm sure there are lots of other stories, too?Yeah; the demon that possesses Regan in "The Exorcist" is indeed Pazuzu. Its his statue that faces down Max Von Sydow in the opener. He doesn't actually get name-checked until "The Exorcist II," but I believe he's mentioned by name in Blatty's original novel.
Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. But then I'm not a horror movie fan, and have only seen the original movie once a long time ago, and none of the sequels.
Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. But then I'm not a horror movie fan, and have only seen the original movie once a long time ago, and none of the sequels.
Oh, you'll have to watch it again. I've seen it about a hundred and sixty-seven times and it keeps getting funnier every single time I see it. ;-)
Seriously, it's a great movie.
3rd boon: True Temptation (Sp) If any creature speaks Pazuzu's name aloud three times with a single breath, and that creature is within 60 feet of you, you can cast quickened charm monster on that creature as an immediate action. You can use this power up to three times per day. Creatures with fly speeds take a –4 penalty on saves against this effect. If a creature that fails its save against this effect has protection from evil or a similar effect activated, that effect is immediately and automatically dispelled.
Am I the only one who doesn't see ANY practical use to this ability?
Hmm, that's a very strange ability. It would make more sense if you could cast immediate charm monster on a creature if you spoke Pazuzu's name aloud three times with a single breath :)
You can! You're casting charm monster on yourself is all.
It's a very folklore-y ability, where the demon's attention is drawn to the inadvertent act of worship in repeating its name. I like it.
Hmm, that's a very strange ability. It would make more sense if you could cast immediate charm monster on a creature if you spoke Pazuzu's name aloud three times with a single breath :)
You can! You're casting charm monster on yourself is all.
It's a very folklore-y ability, where the demon's attention is drawn to the inadvertent act of worship in repeating its name. I like it.
I agree that it is kind of cool, but if you spend a feat for it, you should get something in return. I don't think the capstone ability of this feat will be used more than once per campaign and even that if you have a generous DM...
3rd boon: True Temptation (Sp) If any creature speaks Pazuzu's name aloud three times with a single breath, and that creature is within 60 feet of you, you can cast quickened charm monster on that creature as an immediate action. You can use this power up to three times per day. Creatures with fly speeds take a –4 penalty on saves against this effect. If a creature that fails its save against this effect has protection from evil or a similar effect activated, that effect is immediately and automatically dispelled.Am I the only one who doesn't see ANY practical use to this ability?
Note that the creature doesn't need to speak Pazuzu's name under his free will. You can trick him into saying it, or other creatures can use things like suggestion to make him do it. And you can force creatures to say it via torture or by threatening something they hold dear. It's an ability that you need to be a true sneak and tempter to pull off, which is what a high level cultist of Pazuzu would be.
Also: These abilities, while they CAN be used by PCs, are more intended to be used by NPCs. And getting a PC to say Pazuzu three times is weirdly easy.
3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp)Shouldn't that be Ultimate Incantation? Penultimate means next to last, and the feat mentions the 3rd boon being the final (ultimate).
I'm surprised that nobody jumped on this yet. But someone has to nitpick and I'll take one for the team this time.
I think it's correct - you use it, strip their defenses, then cast a spell at them while they have no magic to protect them to finish them off.
3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp)Shouldn't that be Ultimate Incantation? Penultimate means next to last, and the feat mentions the 3rd boon being the final (ultimate).
I'm surprised that nobody jumped on this yet. But someone has to nitpick and I'll take one for the team this time.
That's because Abraxus is the only one who gets the Ultimate Incantation. Cultists only get the next-best one.
That's because Abraxus is the only one who gets the Ultimate Incantation. Cultists only get the next-best one.3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp)Shouldn't that be Ultimate Incantation? Penultimate means next to last, and the feat mentions the 3rd boon being the final (ultimate).
I'm surprised that nobody jumped on this yet. But someone has to nitpick and I'll take one for the team this time.
Also, the word "penulimate" has a special place in heart of many Paizo forum veterans. Sebastian, in particular.
That's because Abraxus is the only one who gets the Ultimate Incantation. Cultists only get the next-best one.3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp)Shouldn't that be Ultimate Incantation? Penultimate means next to last, and the feat mentions the 3rd boon being the final (ultimate).
I'm surprised that nobody jumped on this yet. But someone has to nitpick and I'll take one for the team this time.
That makes sense. It's not like a demon lord is going to give away his best trick.
Wait, are we actually going to get stats for the Demon Lords this time (or if not how about just their Aspects)? I don't remember if we got stats for the Archfiends or Whore Queens in Princes of Darkness. I would sure just love to just have stats for the "aspects" of the Demon Lords/Archdevils/Whore Queens etc etc.
Wait, are we actually going to get stats for the Demon Lords this time (or if not how about just their Aspects)? I don't remember if we got stats for the Archfiends or Whore Queens in Princes of Darkness. I would sure just love to just have stats for the "aspects" of the Demon Lords/Archdevils/Whore Queens etc etc.
Nope; no stats for demon lords. They'd be something like CR 35 or higher, and we don't know how our epic rules work yet, so we aren't going to stat them up.
Nor are we going to have stats for their "aspects," since that's not something we're going to go into with our demigods.
The nascent demon lords, though, range from CR 21 to 25. Treerazer is one of them, and he'll be converted to the new rules in the upcoming World Guide—there's several nascent demon lords listed in this book, but we don't provide stats for them here. That's a project for another day.
That makes sense. It's not like a demon lord is going to give away his best trick.That's because Abraxus is the only one who gets the Ultimate Incantation. Cultists only get the next-best one.3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp)Shouldn't that be Ultimate Incantation? Penultimate means next to last, and the feat mentions the 3rd boon being the final (ultimate).
I'm surprised that nobody jumped on this yet. But someone has to nitpick and I'll take one for the team this time.
And yes; Abraxas's title is "Master of the Ultimate Incantation." His cultists don't get to use that one.
And yes; Abraxas's title is "Master of the Ultimate Incantation." His cultists don't get to use that one.That makes sense. It's not like a demon lord is going to give away his best trick.That's because Abraxus is the only one who gets the Ultimate Incantation. Cultists only get the next-best one.3rd boon: Penultimate Incantation (Sp)Shouldn't that be Ultimate Incantation? Penultimate means next to last, and the feat mentions the 3rd boon being the final (ultimate).
I'm surprised that nobody jumped on this yet. But someone has to nitpick and I'll take one for the team this time.
Doh! My setting knowledge seems to be a bit less developed than my nitpicking skills. Sorry about that.
