DM_aka_Dudemeister
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A great encounter I'd happily drop anywhere. I hope to see more of this kind of material in the blogs. Sometimes having an encounter can be handy (either to throw in an adventure or to build an adventure around).
Also kudos to Mr Spicer for making a fun and tactically interesting encounter.
| Neil Spicer RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor |
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HAH!
I am so, SO glad to see Arvormeigh revealed. She was the one element I most hated to see hit the cutting room floor. Thanks so much for getting her back out there as bonus content via the blog, Sean!
...I hope to see more of this kind of material in the blogs...
I'm not sure how often Paizo has the time to do it, but it is cool to see material made available via the blog and not necessarily through a full-blown web enhancement.
Also kudos to Mr Spicer for making a fun and tactically interesting encounter.
Thank you. I always strive to provide something interesting in every encounter. Check out the Kingmaker adventure path for my next attempt. The fourth adventure ("Blood for Blood") has a few more encounters you may find tactically interesting, as well.
James Jacobs
Creative Director
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I'm not sure how often Paizo has the time to do it, but it is cool to see material made available via the blog and not necessarily through a full-blown web enhancement.
Actually, doing things like this on the blog are relatively low-impact for us. They don't require as in-depth an editing process as a web enhancement, since they can be very short. And they require NO layout work from our art staff.
Kvantum
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I'm not sure how often Paizo has the time to do it, but it is cool to see material made available via the blog and not necessarily through a full-blown web enhancement.Actually, doing things like this on the blog are relatively low-impact for us. They don't require as in-depth an editing process as a web enhancement, since they can be very short. And they require NO layout work from our art staff.
So how about more of it. Lots more, if there is any to be had. I love seeing the "deleted scenes".
Githzilla
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So how about more of it. Lots more, if there is any to be had. I love seeing the "deleted scenes".
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Paizo is great for these additional tidbits!
King of Vrock
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I think her CR is off... it looks like it should be CR 7 to match the 3,200 xp award.
Just an FYI, cause this is a great NPC who I'm definitely yoinking for my game this weekend!!!
--Johnny Vrockets
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Lord Thavian
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So how about more of it. Lots more, if there is any to be had. I love seeing the "deleted scenes".+1
Paizo is great for these additional tidbits!
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More Please! :D|
Rob McCreary
Developer
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I think her CR is off... it looks like it should be CR 7 to match the 3,200 xp award.
Just an FYI, cause this is a great NPC who I'm definitely yoinking for my game this weekend!!!
--Johnny Vrockets
She is CR 5. The 3,200 XP award is from the original encounter (which is hidden under the spoiler tag), which has a total CR of 7. But if she's just by herself, then yeah, she's CR 5, 1,600 XP.
| Lord Slaavik |
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This is not Arvormeigh, this is Cachee from "Into the Haunted Forest"!
I knew I had seen this art piece before, ruffling through my collection, I found and opened the old TC1
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Sean K Reynolds
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The art piece is a pick-up from the Pathfinder Bonus Bestiary, which may have been picked up from an earlier book.
| Mairkurion {tm} |
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Yeah, Into the Haunted Forest, right? It's a good illo.
| Lord Slaavik |
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Indeed a very good piece of art, I did not mean anything wrong by mentioning TC1.
I had forgotten about the Bonus Bestiary, yep, it is there for the Nixie entry.
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King of Vrock
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She is CR 5. The 3,200 XP award is from the original encounter (which is hidden under the spoiler tag), which has a total CR of 7. But if she's just by herself, then yeah, she's CR 5, 1,600 XP.I think her CR is off... it looks like it should be CR 7 to match the 3,200 xp award.
Just an FYI, cause this is a great NPC who I'm definitely yoinking for my game this weekend!!!
--Johnny Vrockets
Really? Looking at the advancing monsters stuff, she'd be a CR 2 Nixie (being the evil variant with Lure and change shape abilities) and then 5 levels of Rogue on top, assuming a Nixie is a Skill Role means it's a 1 for 1 adjustment for her CR of 7... looking at the monster creation table she is kind of all over the place. CR 4 hp's but CR 7 ability save DC's, CR 7 attack numbers but CR 5 damage. I'm not being picky, just trying to get the hang of monster creation and assigning CR.
--Alfred HitchVrock's the Birds
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Indeed a very good piece of art, I did not mean anything wrong by mentioning TC1.
I had forgotten about the Bonus Bestiary, yep, it is there for the Nixie entry.
I don't see how you could be wrong. TC1 came first.
| Neil Spicer RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor |
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Looking at the advancing monsters stuff, she'd be a CR 2 Nixie (being the evil variant with Lure and change shape abilities) and then 5 levels of Rogue on top, assuming a Nixie is a Skill Role means it's a 1 for 1 adjustment for her CR of 7...
Originally, I wrote her up as CR 7 using those exact same guidelines. So I'm curious as well...mostly so I apply the rules correctly my next go-around.
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Sean K Reynolds
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It's one of those things that can swing ±1 depending on how you think it through.
But really, you're talking about the difference between a 2,400 XP award (CR 6) and either 1,600 XP (CR 5) or 3,200 XP (CR 7), which is just 800 XP, which is 200 XP per character in a party of 4... and where the PCs need to gain 8,000 XP to move from the bottom of level 5 to the bottom of level 6. It's not enough of a difference to waste time nitpicking about it; the time is better spent making some other part of the adventure cool.
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King of Vrock
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Well CR has always been more art than science...
I do think she is a wonderful NPC and I'll be tossing in 2 Large water elementals with her, but then again my 6th level party has 7 PC's! It'll be touch enough for them having to attack her in the water with a Vortex going and a rogue wave power attacking away!
--Vrock'em Sock'em Robots!
| Neil Spicer RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor |
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I do think she is a wonderful NPC and I'll be tossing in 2 Large water elementals with her, but then again my 6th level party has 7 PC's! It'll be touch enough for them having to attack her in the water with a Vortex going and a rogue wave power attacking away!
Proof once again that a creature in its own element can pose a serious threat to those who underestimate it. ;-)
Avemar
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Fantastic! Count me in as another vote for more of this!
CuttinCurt
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hehe, I finally clicked on the link to this and now I can see why Neil hated to see this thing go.
This even makes my evil DM mind consider using this creature in my LoF campaign. I was needing a fey element for a character story arc in the End of Eternity AP#22. This could prove most useful... :D
| Dragon78 |
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I wish they kept her in the module, poor nixies, they never get any love, you can't summon them, can't get them as cohorts,familiars, or player characters. But it would be nice to more npc ones like this one and the one in kingmaker.
