Has anyone houseruled a master summoner who foregoes having an edilion? If so what bonuses did you give to offset lacking this class feature?
I would replace Lesser Eidolon feature with familiar (or bonded item) and Improved Familiar feat gained at (probably) 4th level in place of Shield Ally and Greater Shield Ally. The familiar would not interfere with summonings. Life link, bonded senses, maker's call, transposition and life bond would work with familiar instead of eidolon. I would keep aspect and greater aspect. Something should be added to replace merge forms and twin eidolon.
I took a stab at that once; hopefully it'll at least give you some ideas:
I would replace Lesser Eidolon feature with familiar (or bonded item) and Improved Familiar feat gained at (probably) 4th level in place of Shield Ally and Greater Shield Ally. The familiar would not interfere with summonings. Life link, bonded senses, maker's call, transposition and life bond would work with familiar instead of eidolon. I would keep aspect and greater aspect. Something should be added to replace merge forms and twin eidolon.
It would be fun/amusing if the summoner got the evolved familiar feat a few times for free. ;-)
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Has anyone houseruled a master summoner who foregoes having an edilion?
Dunno. Maybe some rouge talents?
OHH! How about getting Aspect early along with the prerequisite evolution points. Maybe 5th level, then again at 10th, 15th and 20th.
Kind of a synthesist-lite hybrid in exchange for not having an ediliion.
Sound reasonable?
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Cheapy has an Eidolon-less Master Summoner as well.
OHH! How about getting Aspect early along with the prerequisite evolution points. Maybe 5th level, then again at 10th, 15th and 20th.
Kind of a synthesist-lite hybrid in exchange for not having an ediliion.
Sound reasonable?
Some master summoners reject the link to a lesser eidolon instead preferring to bond with magically augmented familiar.
Modifies life link, bond senses, aspect, life bond, greater aspect; Removes lesser eidolon, shield ally, maker's call, transposition, greater shield ally, merge forms, twin eidolon
Evolving Familiar: Famulus-bond master summoner gains a bond with a familiar. This works like regular arcane bond (familiar) with free Evolved Familiar feat gained at 4th, 8th, 12th, 16th and 20th level. This ability replaces lesser eidolon, shield ally, transposition, greater shield ally, merge forms and twin eidolon.
Life Link, Bond Senses, Life Bond These abilities work with the summoner's familiar instead of eidolon.
Aspect, Greater Aspect These abilities work as for regular summoner, except no evolution points are diverted from familiar's evolution pool - instead the summoner gains two evolution points specifically for the purpose of these abilities at 10th level, increasing the number of points in personal evolution pool to 6 at 18th level.
Improved Familiar: Famulus-bond master summoner gains Improved Familiar feat as a bonus feat at 6th level. This feature replaces maker's call ability.
A few master summoners forsake bonding to a lesser eidolon instead imbuing themselves with planar energies aqcuiring a limited number of exceptional abilities themselves.
Removes lesser eidolon, life link, bond senses, shield ally, maker's call, transposition, aspect, greater shield ally, life bond, merge forms, greater aspect, twin eidolon.
Evolving Aspect: Evolving master summoner gains a number of inhuman traits as he progresses along his path. He gains 1 evolution point, plus one additional point at 2nd level and every two levels thereafter. He may select evolutions as if were bipedal eidolon except of ability increase evolution, which he cannot acquire. Evolving master summoner may change evolutions selected and may be targeted with evolution-affecting spells such as devolution, evolution surge or transmogrify as if was his own eidolon.
This feature replaces lesser eidolon, life link, bond senses, shield ally, maker's call, transposition, aspect, greater shield ally, life bond, merge forms, greater aspect and twin eidolon abilities.
Cheapy has an Eidolon-less Master Summoner as well.
Hey, thanks!
There's also the Celestial Commander on d20pfsrd. They're overall a bit more powerful than the master summoner, but they have some incentives to hold the power level back.
Both of those are cool and well thought out I think. However I'd modify the following phrase:
Aspect, Greater Aspect These abilities work as for regular summoner, except no evolution points are diverted from familiar's evolution pool.
to add: Instead the summoner simply aquires the evolution points without needing to have an evolution.
I say that because some rules lawyer with RAW that into meaning that the summoner doesn't get evolution points at all.
I thought the same so I rewrote the ability in the mean time :D
Question to native English speakers - should it be Famulus-bond, Famulus-bonded or Famulus-bound Master Summoner? I suspect that all could be passable with subtle differences in meaning, but would any of those be outrightly incorrect?
Question to native English speakers - should it be Famulus-bond, Famulus-bonded or Famulus-bound Master Summoner? I suspect that all could be passable with subtle differences in meaning, but would any of those be outrightly incorrect?
Clearly you know "famulus" isn't a real word, which is fine given it's usage. However to me it sounds like "family." I'd just say Familiar bond or something like that.
Question to native English speakers - should it be Famulus-bond, Famulus-bonded or Famulus-bound Master Summoner? I suspect that all could be passable with subtle differences in meaning, but would any of those be outrightly incorrect?Clearly you know "famulus" isn't a real word, which is fine given it's usage. However to me it sounds like "family." I'd just say Familiar bond or something like that.
As long as Latin isn't real language :P
FamulusFrom that term the current English familiar evolved.
Question to native English speakers - should it be Famulus-bond, Famulus-bonded or Famulus-bound Master Summoner? I suspect that all could be passable with subtle differences in meaning, but would any of those be outrightly incorrect?Clearly you know "famulus" isn't a real word, which is fine given it's usage. However to me it sounds like "family." I'd just say Familiar bond or something like that.As long as Latin isn't real language :P
FamulusFrom that term the current English familiar evolved.
Clearly I don't speak latin. ;-) Still though, when surrounded by english words it brings to mind family related things before familiars. To me anyway.
On my way to pub to see friends it got to me that I made a glaring error in both archetypes - Master Summoner does not have bonded senses and shield ally features so Famulus-bond archetype can't use bond senses on his familiar and neither archetype can replace shield ally. It should not affect balance much however. I think.