What level do you usually retire your characters at?


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There has been a minor debate about when people normally retire at. So I am creating this poll (and a related poll found here).

Favorite a specific post to mark which level is the level you usually retire at.

- Gauss

Edit: I realize PFS mandates level 12 and PF APs end around 13-15. I am looking for broader answers than that though. Please include all 3.X/PF experience.


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Levels 1-6


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levels 7-10


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levels 11-15


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levels 16-20


Of the campaigns I've run, if we got past the first few levels we've usually come to a stop in the 11-15 range. I myself would love to go all the way to the top, but I've not yet had the luck of running a game that far/that long.

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It varies tremendously PFS mandates retirement at 12. My Living City character retired at 15. My LSJ Loremaster is currently at 13, he may wind up retiring at a couple of levels.


Orthos wrote:
Of the campaigns I've run, if we got past the first few levels we've usually come to a stop in the 11-15 range. I myself would love to go all the way to the top, but I've not yet had the luck of running a game that far/that long.

I'd second this.. every game I've played or DM'd... the game goes till some goober(s) quit, or get a life =D


I love me some high level play. Groups often fall apart for various reasons before you get there, but I like the high-powered stuff, even though I'm not all that good at it.


Just a reminder guys, please favorite the posts of your choice. This allows people a way to see the numbers at a glance.

- Gauss


Yar.

(I prefer) My characters retire from adventuring whenever it makes sense for them to retire. As in, makes sense from the character's point of view.

I've had characters retire after the first adventure while still at level 1, and I've had characters go up from level one in 1e all the way up to ECL 75 in 3.x (and still is only in semi-retirement due to the difficulty of running anything as a group in such extreme levels).

Yeah, campaigns end, and we will often make new characters as a group for the next one... but sometimes character plots/stories don't end with the adventure... they can continue to develop and grow. And if we don't continue with those characters in a different adventure, I keep them in storage in case we decide to continue with their stories another day.

Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. But in my games there is no hard limit on when character's retire.

They retire when it makes sense for them to retire.

~P


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Gar.

Gauss wrote:

Just a reminder guys, please favorite the posts of your choice. This allows people a way to see the numbers at a glance.

- Gauss

... my answer does not fit within the limitations you have set forth.

*shrugs*

~P


I would add a choice that says "At whatever level the AP ends."

That's what my group does. For 3.5 APs it was around 16-17 for PF APs it's around 15-16.

Shadow Lodge

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"21+", "Other/none of these fit", and "As long as possible" aught to also be options.

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14-15, for the usual reason. From previous campaigns, into the epics.


Definitely 21+. Everything in PF is on hold until epic and my 21+ 3.5 Level characters are on waiting to be converted to PF.


Why have 20th level abilities if you aren't going to use them? I love running/playing 20th level + games.

Silver Crusade

20th level.


I've successfully retired one character in the mid 20's somewhere. It was an absolute blast.

The others haven't actually "retired".. unless you count campaigns disbanding as retirement. (and death certainly doesn't count- though the guys are definately "retired").

-S


I like playing high level characters: unfortunately the DMs running games I play in often quit around level 15 (too low for retirement to me). Levels 18-30 are suitable, preferably in the 23-25 range. Games I run often have character complete their quests/retire around level 20-27.


Games seem to die around 8th for me normally, but thats because DMs I play with usually start us at 4 and things just fall apart by around then. That aside if the game is actually played to conclusion, it seems to be around 15th or so.


My highest level still active 3.5/PF character is level 14. Most of my characters haven't officially "retired" but we just stopped playing them at about level 12 because we got tired of the silliness and wanted to play a game that we still felt was somewhat grounded in reality. So I've got a bunch of technically active characters that will probably never see another encounter.


Adamantine Dragon, I would consider that as 'retired'. However, I could be alone in that opinion.

- Gauss

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I can't really answer because I don't have a "usual." The campaign ends when the players feel like their characters have reached the end of their careers. Currently, I've got a game where the PCs are 13th level and probably heading for 20th or so before retiring. I've got another game that's following the Jade Regent adventure path and might decide to call it quits at the culmination or might decide that the end of the game only opens up new opportunities.

Of my old PCs, one of them retired at 5th level to open a book store and sell stories about his adventures. Another one is 22nd level and still adventuring. There's not really an end of the track - some characters retire early because they acquire family obligations or just lose their desire to risk life and limb on a regular basis. Others keep going, tempting fate well into their twilight years.

Shadow Lodge

If you as a player had the choice, what level range would you then prefere, if it is not based on things like an AP ending earlier than you would like, or people moving away that causes it to end earlier?


Gauss wrote:

Adamantine Dragon, I would consider that as 'retired'. However, I could be alone in that opinion.

- Gauss

Gauss, I suppose part of this is semantics.

See, I have actual "retired" characters. Meaning I have characters who have deliberately hung up their adventuring gear, married, got jobs and moved on with their lives. One of my characters is now the Sultan of a small desert city. Another built a temple and is running it as the head priest. Another is lord of a small castle and is raising a family.

The characters I am referring to as not "technically" retired are those who I role play as still wanting to be adventurers, but as a player I just end up not playing.

I guess that you could say I've retired them as a PLAYER, but those characters are not, themselves, "retired." Make sense?

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Ringtail wrote:
Why have 20th level abilities if you aren't going to use them? I love running/playing 20th level + games.

Mainly for the same reason that the high level spells were put in the first edition books, to equip major NPC antagonists.

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