More Jade Regent Romances

Oh! Cool! This is the kind of AP supporting material that is great for GMs and players. I approve!

These boons are pretty cool. This is my first time seeing these. Is there a PC version of this, like team work feats but use role playing?

Yay for extra support! Always appreciated.

Super sweet, support for an excellent subsystem.
Keep it coming Paizo.

These boons are pretty cool. This is my first time seeing these. Is there a PC version of this, like team work feats but use role playing?

Not really; they were first introduced in the Jade Regent Player's Guide, but the boons and rules for the significant NPCs themselves appeared in Pathfinder #49.

Great stuff! Very happy to see more of this guys.

Thanks, those will be quite helpful. :)

I don't get why something that clearly is a rules extension (not all to different from the rules for cities as presented in GMG) is buried deep in an adventure path where people like myself will not have access to.

Here's the hope that the rules will be published in a campaign neutral document someday.

I don't get why something that clearly is a rules extension (not all to different from the rules for cities as presented in GMG) is buried deep in an adventure path where people like myself will not have access to.

Here's the hope that the rules will be published in a campaign neutral document someday.

We've been "burying rules extensions in Adventure Paths" since day one. Chases, haunts, and several other rules elements that are now part of the RPG were first introduced and "tried out" in Adventure Paths.

Why do we do this? Because often we want to do adventures that we don't yet have rules for. Adventures that feature things like mass combat, kingdom building, caravan management, romances & relationships, and so on. And trying them out in a self-contained environment like an Adventure Path is a great way to see how the rules work in action before we strip them down to their bare essentials for inclusion in a world-neutral rulebook.

It's nice to see this!

I also appreciate Paizo's seeing an adventure goal or campaign idea, and then tweaking some game mechanics in a self-contained environment (like an Adventure Path) before rolling them out and offerring new rules elements as part of the Core System / larger game ecosystem.

Regards,

-- Andy

I don't get why something that clearly is a rules extension (not all to different from the rules for cities as presented in GMG) is buried deep in an adventure path where people like myself will not have access to.

Here's the hope that the rules will be published in a campaign neutral document someday.

The rules for Romance appear are not "buried" in an AP. They are in the Jade Regent Player's Guide. It's a 28 page document avialable as a FREE download on this website.

You have more access to them in the Jade Regent Player's Guide (and on a blog) than you would if they were in some new but-not-as-yet- available hardcover.

How do you out more about them? Well, download there here for one, read this blog above for two, and read a review of it here for three.

(You're Welcome).

Nice Steel Wind! Thanks for being so Johnny-on-the-Spot with the links!

I think RPG videogame developers such as Bioware and Atlus have managed to inject an enormous amount of interest in their role-playing videogames by including complex and tricky rules for the player’s character to initiate and maintain romantic relationships. Go look at the internet response to relationship building in Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2 and Persona 3 and 4. People love this stuff when it’s done realistically and leaves the creepiness out. It generates a lot of buzz.

It’s great that Paizo is noting this interest and shooting little cupid arrows into the game rules. Even Conan took the time out from giant-slaying to get cozy with the ladies!

Thank you for the additional content!

Very cool indeed. Jade Regent is shaping up to be one of my favorites among Adventure Paths.

I liked Kelda from my first read through about her in "Brinewall Legacy". Glad there is some additional support for keeping her around.

Ulf is certainly interesting too. What (almost) interests me more though is this "Varki" ethnicity. I'm hoping that the upcoming "Lands of the Linnorm Kings" supplement has more about them within its pages.

Thanks a bunch.

~Dean

Ulf is certainly interesting too. What (almost) interests me more though is this "Varki" ethnicity. I'm hoping that the upcoming "Lands of the Linnorm Kings" supplement has more about them within its pages.

From what I understand, I think they're an ethnic minority that dwells somewhere in the Land of the Linnorm Kings, but yes, I would definitely like to see the obscure Varki ethnicity expanded upon.

I'm guessing the Varki would be culturally equivalent to the Inuit or native tribes of the Arctic Circle?

I'm guessing the Varki would be culturally equivalent to the Inuit or native tribes of the Arctic Circle?

No... there's another ethnicity (the Erutaki) who are more of an Inuit analog for Golarion'; we'll be talking about them more in the next Jade Regent installment.

Are the Varki an analog for the Sami peoples of Northern Scandinavia?

Are the Varki an analog for the Sami peoples of Northern Scandinavia?

Yes, the Varki draw a lot of inspiration from the Sami.

Thanks for the romance scores and relationship rewards! I think this is one of the cooler sub-rule sets I've seen. Think we might be getting a few more pieces like this for filling out JR as it comes out?

Thanks for the romance scores and relationship rewards! I think this is one of the cooler sub-rule sets I've seen. Think we might be getting a few more pieces like this for filling out JR as it comes out?

It's possible... as the campaign progresses, new NPCs have less screen time to hang out with the PCs, so that gives them less time to build relationships, but we'll see what we can do.

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

Matthew Trent wrote:

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

This is in fact my plan. 8)

I like the girl myself and have observed that DM enthusiasm often encourages PCs. Most of my wondering was if good outsiders had rules against such things (though being CG she might easily break them if they did).

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

Well, you mentioned in another thread the idea of the caravan as a character, so...

Love the illustration!

I <3 Wayne Reynolds :)

I have never seen a rule that punishes long game sessions instead of short ones before. This is a first.

Player: "I use my 5-foot bonus movement!"
(fight continues, players win)
Player: "This gaming session is over. I'm outta here. Although if the rest of you hold on, I'll be back in 14 seconds for our next session."

DM: *facedesk*

Matthew Trent wrote:

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

It would never end, so let's do this. What are the romance rules for the Decapus?

James Jacobs wrote:

Matthew Trent wrote:

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

It would never end, so let's do this. What are the romance rules for the Decapus?

That's a great question. Let's find out.

::Types "tentacle romance" into Google::

Wait...no, what the... MY EYES! MY EYES!

The world may never know.

Devastation Bob wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

Matthew Trent wrote:

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

It would never end, so let's do this. What are the romance rules for the Decapus?

That's a great question. Let's find out.

::Types "tentacle romance" into Google::

Wait...no, what the... MY EYES! MY EYES!

The world may never know.

Great, now Greg will culminate Slumbering Tsar with an epic battle with Orcus where the players have to take him on long watches on the beach, dinner at his favorite restaurant, and if they "win", they get a good night kiss. Word of warning- when romancing Orcus, do not tell him he looks like a fat, bloated undead corpse. Grazzt has given him some image issues...

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Devastation Bob wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

Matthew Trent wrote:

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

It would never end, so let's do this. What are the romance rules for the Decapus?

That's a great question. Let's find out.

::Types "tentacle romance" into Google::

Wait...no, what the... MY EYES! MY EYES!

The world may never know.

Great, now Greg will culminate Slumbering Tsar with an epic battle with Orcus where the players have to take him on long watches on the beach, dinner at his favorite restaurant, and if they "win", they get a good night kiss. Word of warning- when romancing Orcus, do not tell him he looks like a fat, bloated undead corpse. Grazzt has given him some image issues...

Tip - He likes being called Big Daddy Orcus. :)

John Benbo wrote:

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Devastation Bob wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

Matthew Trent wrote:

Well done! Though I was surprised not to see some boons for Spirvy. What would you do if a character wanted to romance her?

I'd make up rules for her on the spot, based on the rules we've provided already.

We can't provide romance rules for every NPC. Where would it end? Buttersnips?

It would never end, so let's do this. What are the romance rules for the Decapus?

That's a great question. Let's find out.

::Types "tentacle romance" into Google::

Wait...no, what the... MY EYES! MY EYES!

The world may never know.

Great, now Greg will culminate Slumbering Tsar with an epic battle with Orcus where the players have to take him on long watches on the beach, dinner at his favorite restaurant, and if they "win", they get a good night kiss. Word of warning- when romancing Orcus, do not tell him he looks like a fat, bloated undead corpse. Grazzt has given him some image issues...

Tip - He likes being called Big Daddy Orcus. :)

So many possible replies, none of them appropriate for a public forum :)

Atrocious wrote:

Are the Varki an analog for the Sami peoples of Northern Scandinavia?

Yes, the Varki draw a lot of inspiration from the Sami.

Hmm, my first thought was "Inuit" (or "Eskimos", this is how they are more known in my native tongue.)

By the way, Kelga looked awesome (and would probably be fun to have, who doesn't like having a blonde and oh so Nordic barbarian around), but I'm a little underwhelmed by her friendship boon. 5 foot as an enhancement bonus - shouldn't near everyone in the party who cares for such things already have this bonus by the time they can reach such a high score with her? That sounds a bit underwhelming compared to a +4 to saves vs. either fear OR enchantment :) .

Rob McCreary wrote:

Atrocious wrote:

Are the Varki an analog for the Sami peoples of Northern Scandinavia?

Yes, the Varki draw a lot of inspiration from the Sami.

Hmm, my first thought was "Inuit" (or "Eskimos", this is how they are more known in my native tongue.)

By the way, Kelga looked awesome (and would probably be fun to have, who doesn't like having a blonde and oh so Nordic barbarian around), but I'm a little underwhelmed by her friendship boon. 5 foot as an enhancement bonus - shouldn't near everyone in the party who cares for such things already have this bonus by the time they can reach such a high score with her?

Our Inuit analoge ethnicity are the Erutaki—they play a pretty big role in Part 3 of Jade Regent.

Damn you, Mr. Jacobs! This is a part of your devilish plot to make us give you our money for the next adventure, isn't it? That's a fiendish Tyrannosaurus there, I'd wager ;) !

By the way, Ulf's (half-)sister is kind of cute. If she stays around for Round 3, I wouldn't be surprised if a few PCs here and there become interested in their companion. Marry band of misfits murders and mauls many monsters, meandering into Minkai!

I would like to see a "Building Your Own Relationship Scores and Boons" article for GMs, perhaps on the blog or in a future article. This is something that would be very useful for my Kingmaker game, as characters seek to start families and political marriages (and perhaps find love in the process).
Or start rivalries with council members of their own kingdom or rival states.

I used to enjoy those types of articles on the WOTC website back in 3.5e. I second that it would be neat to read articles that give insight into the Developers' method for coming up with this sort of thing. If not, I can always try to reverse engineer it, but I must admit, I am less than adept at doing so.

Are there been any official listings of appropriate gifts, insults and romance scores for the iconics? I want to incorporate a few iconics into the APs I run and would prefer to use officially released listings if they exist.