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Seriously, with stuff like the Lantern Bearers around, anyone wanting to play a good or even neutral drow needs all the help and advice they can get.
Even in the Realms, with it's own CG goddess of dancin' nekkid in the moonlight swingin' a big sword around, I was never fond of good drow.
In Golarion, with the whole spoilery-spoiler bit, I'm even less keen on the idea.
There's an assumption in gaming that fallen angels or greedy/racist/cannibalistic dwarves/elves/halflings or insane gold dragons are cool, but redeemed devils or nature-loving orcs or Swayze-esque friendly ghosts are 'lame' or 'wrongbadfun.' I have no idea where that bizarre double-standard came from (although Drizzt carries some blame, surely, and Edward Cullen even more so...).
I guess redemption stories might be more palatable if most of them didn't suck so hard. :)
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There's an assumption in gaming that fallen angels or greedy/racist/cannibalistic dwarves/elves/halflings or insane gold dragons are cool, but redeemed devils or nature-loving orcs or Swayze-esque friendly ghosts are 'lame' or 'wrongbadfun.' I have no idea where that bizarre double-standard came from (although Drizzt carries some blame, surely, and Edward Cullen even more so...).
Yeah, that's one of the really frustrating things. Anyone that wants good members of RACE X always has that desire boiled down to a caricature of Drizzt or Twilight by those that want to shut it out, regardless of the actual details those players want or the quality of their concepts. Lost track of how many times that's happened on these very forums.
Hell, I've seen that attitude used to shut down players that actually wanted to go through the trouble of building "monster orphanages" because they didn't want to play Cullings & Genocides.
(once had a DM tell me "a Good-aligned character wouldn't do that" when my NG cleric tried to save orc babies from being butchered. Didn't hang around that group for long.)
There's an assumption in gaming that fallen angels or greedy/racist/cannibalistic dwarves/elves/halflings or insane gold dragons are cool, but redeemed devils or nature-loving orcs or Swayze-esque friendly ghosts are 'lame' or 'wrongbadfun.' I have no idea where that bizarre double-standard came from (although Drizzt carries some blame, surely, and Edward Cullen even more so...).
I guess redemption stories might be more palatable if most of them didn't suck so hard. :)
Hellboy. You don't get much cooler than that. Or more redeemed for that matter!
I read the blog to my wife and our roommate (both players in my Rise of the Runelords campaign), and they were laughing and all excited about it - until I mentioned the April Fool's part...
Then I got the cold shoulder for the rest of the evening for 'killing dreams' and so forth (;_;)
Even if Paizo can't actually publish something like this, it might be a great candidate for the next Wayfinder....
I'm not sayin' anything. I'm just sayin' (^-^)
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A Goblins of Golarion product would sell, methinks.
Goblins are playable, darn it! They are much cuter than elves.
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Hellboy. You don't get much cooler than that. Or more redeemed for that matter!
Ooh, good one! I stand (er, sit) corrected!
(once had a DM tell me "a Good-aligned character wouldn't do that" when my NG cleric tried to save orc babies from being butchered. Didn't hang around that group for long.)
As I've said before, it's easier in some groups to put NE on your character sheet if you want to play a moral character. You can say straight-faced that the baby orcs should be saved to use as slaves, and nobody bats an eye.
You then can treat the 'slaves' as kindly as you want, out of the sight of the other player characters, and educate them in the faith of whatever goodly diety you want, and if any of your 'friends' catch you, can smile a wicked smile and claim it's all part of a master plan to mess with the local faith of [insert good god here] by foisting a bunch of heretically trained orcish followers of their god upon them, tarnishing their faith, possibly instigating a heresy *and* putting these good aligned followers of Rainbow Unicorn Goddess in the awkward position of having to kill other good-aligned followers of their goddess, possibly causing them to fall from grace and turn evil, all for the low-low cost of feeding, clothing and edumacating some orc babies for a few years.
It's way easier to do good by claiming to be evil. Evil can lie about what it's doing and why, and hardly ever gets reprimanded for being duplicitious two-faced jerks. It's part of their job description!
Happy happy joy joyIt's already on the schedule.A Goblins of Golarion product would sell, methinks.
Goblins are playable, darn it! They are much cuter than elves.
When The Goblins Adventure comes out on Free RPG Day I am totally gonna snag it, read it, and try running it for my first foray into DMing a PBP game! :)
Should be HILARIOUS
Such a tease! I would totally buy this. All things goblin! Someone needs to make something like this happen.
Such a tease! I would totally buy this. All things goblin! Someone needs to make something like this happen.
See Pathfinder 2E playtest. Goblins are a core race. Don't know if it'll make it through the playtest. There is a lot of hate for goblin PCs as core, even after the explanation came out.
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Such a tease! I would totally buy this. All things goblin! Someone needs to make something like this happen.See Pathfinder 2E playtest. Goblins are a core race. Don't know if it'll make it through the playtest. There is a lot of hate for goblin PCs as core, even after the explanation came out.
sure there are haters, but every poll i have seen shows progoblin race support as vastly higher then anti goblin support, even if this was not true, paizo is not going to take goblins out,
there is no benefit for them to take them out
It turns out the joke’s punchline is 2e
Awesome find, one helluva thread necro and great comment to top it off.
Kudos!
There is a lot of hate for goblin PCs as core, even after the explanation came out.
What was the explanation? I can't find anything in the playtest forums.
This is a cool idea. Now I'm saddened that it's not a real supplement!