Extraordinarily Awful Orphan Adventures

Game Master Minister Pain

Look upon my works, ye orphans, and despair.

would if i could but i can't. Despairing i mean...

also hello everyone

Oh look how I quiver in my boots. From your halitosis I mean.

Hey all. :)

Shifty eyes scan the room waiting for more bad news. Acting cool though, he is the most relaxed person in the orphanage. Fingers tapping against the wall he keeps his back to.
"Yeah. I am despaired all right."

"You-you want me to go on the expedition, Professor? But-but...I thought no one was supposed to see me...I thought I would be staying here..."

Leera looks stricken and is rather taken aback. She hides her mouth and mumbles from behind the lace spilling out of her cuffs. She doesn't make eye contact with the Professor but looks down and to one side.

No further explanation is offered, and soon Leera is alone with her fellow orphans who have also been voluntold for the expedition.

"I...I hope this goes ok..." Leera looks ready to cry.

If everyone could get HP, AC, Saves, Init, and perception in their stats line I would be very grateful.

Wonderful! Let the suffering commence.

How terrible. I had hoped we'd all find something more pleasant to do. But, like all hope, it turned out to be false.

I'd actually like to point out that Agana CAN heal Leera. The Kinetic Healer ability is not a positive energy effect.

Hmm...interesting. Kinetic Healer doesn't explicitly state that it is positive energy based.

Kinetic Healer

Element aether or water; Type utility (Sp); Level 1; Burn 1; see text
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance yes

With a touch, you can heal a willing living creature of an amount of damage equal to your kinetic blast's damage. Instead of paying the burn cost yourself, you can cause the recipient to take 1 point of burn. If you do so, the recipient takes 1 point of nonlethal damage per Hit Die he possesses, as usual for burn; this damage can't be healed by any means until the recipient takes a full night's rest.

However...

Void Healer

Source Pathfinder Player Companion: Occult Origins

Element void; Type utility (Sp); Level 1; Burn 1

This functions as kinetic healer, except it heals undead (and others healed by negative energy).

The implication is that Kinetic Healer must be positive energy based in contrast. But RAW can be argued here...

How would you like this handled, DM Pain?

There is also a fluff argument to be made. It wouldn't make sense to treat Agana's healing as a burst of positive energy, because she does not have power over positive energy. She has power over water and blood, which somewhat implies that the healing is caused by physically manipulating the target's body in a gruesome and unpleasant manner.

Edit: Wait, does the rules text for Kinetic Healer actually say "living"? Drat, I've been wrong the whole time.

Never mind, I guess! That's so weird.

In defense of your original interpretation, "living" =/= "positive energy" only. A Dhampir is a living creature who responds to positive/negative energies in reverse

True. I suppose that doesn't entirely rule it out. Let's wait for Pain's ruling.

In the interest of causing grief (and given the wording of Void Healer), Agana's Kinetic healing will harm Leera.

That's settled, then.

Sorry, long weekend. Ven is ready to go. I'll have a post up this evening. :)

Since it seems this going to be a lengthy chat, switching to discussion to prevent clutter. :)

I'd like to think Ven doesn't know everybody personally, Girls are confusing and he is a loner anyway so he keeps to himself. He probably knows Ren and hates him a little, in the way that you hate someone who is loud and obnoxious. Buthe also in the way you hate someone you know can kick your ass with anything they have to hand...

I have basically been thinking about it like elementary school. You probably know who everyone is even if you don't have a personal relationship with them. So I suppose reintroducing yourself just to reaffirm it might make sense, but I doubt there is a complete lack of any knowledge unless there are really that many orphans running around. If it's just us...well, we would obviously know one another unless we're only let out of our rooms one at a time. :P

I mean, if you guys want to have a whole introductory session, I guess we can, but since we already have everything about this setting against us, it feels like we should assume camaraderie to make our party cohesion easier which gets tough to roleplay when you have a bunch of loners who have no reason to trust each other otherwise. Given our relationship to Togren is already established to be semi-adversarial (or at least fear based), we probably need to be at least friendly.

I'll concede to the group's feelings though. I'm here to roleplay, so I can do mistrustful and scared just fine. I just think it may be tougher to explain why Leera would stick her neck out for you guys though unless cohesion just gets unexplainably handwaved...which is not something I prefer.

its a good question. Aisling at least i imagine would either be new or out often enough to were she is mostly known only by appearance.

Ren likely served as a lightning rod of sorts for the other orphans, simultaneously bullying the others in line, hiding their(our) shenanigans and taking those punishments that the adults could not pin specifically on the others. Leadership skills of a 12/13 year old, you may have a love/hate relationship with him but you likely hate the adults more.

Plus he is not adverse to swiping you guys something to eat if'n you got sent to bed without dinner... Which Of course, makes him the "Cool" guy in his own eyes at least.

Plus he is not adverse to swiping you guys something to eat if'n you got sent to bed without dinner... Which Of course, makes him the "Cool" guy in his own eyes at least.

Well that might come in handy now, it seems.

I have found an error with Ren Cooper. Apparently the feat "Catch off Guard" is a bonus feat for Cad Fighters upon attaining 3rd level. Alas, he selected this as his first level feat. I would be happy to swap out with another now before anything more unfortunate happens and pick it up at third or pick an alternate for the 3rd ascension later with should he survive.

Wacky weekend - the folks were visiting and I've been too busy entertaining to post anything (not that I care about any of you horrid children anyways). I'll get something up tonight or tomorrow morning.

Adjusted Ren, feat replacement removed catch off guard for improved trip

Leera's internal monologue is about the fact that we're kids.

There's technically a reason for the minimum age requirements for the classes we are all taking, Aisling, so that's really what my comment is about. While what you wrote in your OOC text is 'mechanically' true, we are still roleplaying children, and children just don't have the life experience our class roles otherwise indicate.

I don't have any problem with Aisling making such claims. I did think it odd you described Aisling more like a ranger than a warrior out to protect knowledge, but that's your prerogative as the archetype name is just a concept not a hard and fast rule. :D

But Leera, in character, is going to think Aisling is just being a boastful tomboy.

I'm pretty sure Agana in on the same page as Leera regarding the explanation of our age v. ability. Our skill and power are entirely derived from instinct and natural talent, but only represent actual life experience in the slightest degree.

Aisling's experience in life may have included being taught early on how to hunt and survive. But that is not Leera's, so her perspective will definitely be skeptical until Aisling can actually demonstrate it.

Leera will still probably give Aisling a hard time about calling herself an "assassin" though. :P

All ya'll arguing and jawin and I'm just sitting here eatin my biscuit and playing with my dino. Also being bitter and planning to murder our benefactor but that is just something we are all thinking I would imagine. ;)

Ren just trying to get Dear Father to pay for our dinner (via public shaming)

I'm pretty sure Agana in on the same page as Leera regarding the explanation of our age v. ability. Our skill and power are entirely derived from instinct and natural talent, but only represent actual life experience in the slightest degree.

Yup. She hasn't had any combat experience yet, and she's not eager to learn. She's taught herself to control her power well enough that she doesn't kill anyone by accident, but that's about it.

Lol, considering the description given about the Kineticist class' awakening being a possibly traumatic event, I consider obtaining level 1 Kineticist is basically like 'this just happened.' Level 2 when the Kineticists defense kicks in is the 'you finally figured out how not to kill yourself with your own power' moment.

@DM Pain: Should we be expecting the pace of posting in this game to be relatively slow? I only ask in case you are planning for it to move quicker, or if you're waiting for specific cues from us before you post.

Not waiting for any cues but I've definitely fallen behind on my pacing goals - I've had some mysterious matters to attend to these past days. I'm going to try to pick up the pace this week.

Blast! The most convenient time to post is always never! I've just been fired from my job (for sleeping) and tomorrow I'm flying to New York (not for sleeping). Posts may be a bit slow this week, but we shall prevail! We, here meaning we the players, not the characters, who most certainly won't prevail.

You have my sympathies.

I'm so sorry to hear that.

No sympathies necessary, I'd already been searching for a new one and I was barely working there anyways and I've got enough savings to support myself for a good bit in the meantime.

Just in case the situation escalates to violence, and I am by no means trying to insinuate that it will, Venthrus, you'll probably want to update your character to level 2 like the rest of the orphans.

Huh...? Im not level 2? I thought I was, sorry. I'll do that.

I'm level 2. I just have to input my AC. I missed it, I'll fix it now.

Leera holds a melee weapon? That's an odd choice for a kineticist. You know you can't use Gather Power if you're holding a weapon, right?

Leera has a melee weapon. That's not holds. And a kineticist gathering power is a flashy, loud affair. There will be many moments where such a thing would be very undesirable. Not to mention being unable to act on any AoOs since you're not threatening unless you have a weapon or Improved Unarmed.

Edit: Oh, and since kinetic blast provokes AoO in threat range, having a back up means of attack isn't a foolish plan.

FYI: posting without flair, busy schedule and got power back in Detroit area.

So... how about that weather?

Got power and snow. yay me. I think Ren did not really post an action per se. Right now he is full of psuedo bluster but he is all about malicious compliance and petty revenge. So he knows he will get beat up no matter what. might as well enjoy the experience until retributuion.

pardon the spelling and grammar.

We are at 14 days since the GM posted in Discussion and 15 in Gameplay.

I put a lot of time and thought into this character, so I am sad to see the game dying so quickly. I really hope that's not the case...

I really do like this group, and it would be disappointing to just let it die. Not that we can really do anything about that with no GM.

TBH, I like the concept. I love your characters. I will keep this in back of mind. Perhaps GM was not ready for launch. I'll not fault the GM for the attempt, everyone has a learning curve. It is why I do not GM. I lack the time to coordinate all. I will keep this campaign marked just in case he comes back.
See ya'll on the boards later. Good hunting.

I hope the game does come back. Like everyone else, I really like the concept and the characters involved. Here's hoping.