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Crimson Throne


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Welcome. And thanks for hanging with me. Posting will be difficult for me until after Christmas, that's why the January start date in the initial post. Losing the long post last Thursday or Friday was very depressing, too. I've been thinking about my idea with your characters in mind. I'll need to make some changes to fit your characters better. That's cool.

I couldn't get working email from my friend the arcane caster, but that seems to be resolved now. Got to get him signed onto the boards here.

Let me grab the first character I see and start reviewing. Please talk about your ideas of Korvosa based on the little teasers Paizo has put out.

Oh. And even if your character is statted up, you're not done yet. Please take 6 skill points and put them into a useless knowledge, profession, or craft skill or two. Just for additional flavor. Hopefully I'll be able to work it into the game.

Cheliax

Still here.


Male Workaholic, level 10

I am somewhat curious, but not sure I can take on another pbp just yet. Any background on what's going on in this adventure, if I may ask?
Adventuring in Varisia looks to be cool.

Osirion

Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3

Oh, benevolent DM, Are we looking to roll characters or point buy.

Forgive me if you already said somewhere and I just missed it.

Also - how are you wanting us to do start up money?

I'll have my character cranked out as soon as I know.


I'm still here, and on top of Wicht's questions, I'll ask for a little tease regarding what you have in store for us.


Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.


Wicht wrote:

Oh, benevolent DM, Are we looking to roll characters or point buy.

Forgive me if you already said somewhere and I just missed it.

Also - how are you wanting us to do start up money?

I'll have my character cranked out as soon as I know.

Oh my poor lost post. It covered it all. OK. Character generation.

you can roll 4d6 lose the lowest, arrange scores to your liking. Or you can go for point buy. (26+1d4)

Roll start-up money. Don't worry about low rolls. This sidetrek should be pretty low combat and provide money earning opportunities. If your character absolutely needs something for image and you can't afford it, talk to me. I'll make you an offer you can't refuse.


Darthen wrote:
Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.

Good.

Teaser: Initial sidetrek will be something of a puzzle.

Hopefully 3 independent story lines can be made to converge to at least get everyone in the group known to each other. More hopefully with a degree of mutual respect if perhaps some antipathy. If it turns into a train wreck, when we begin Crimson Throne we'll rewrite history slightly to enable the group to work together.

Oh, characters may take a bonus feat from the Rise o' the Rune LOrds list. When we start Crimson Throne we can rebuild characters slightly if CT bonus feats look better to anyone.


Alex Martin wrote:

I am somewhat curious, but not sure I can take on another pbp just yet. Any background on what's going on in this adventure, if I may ask?

Adventuring in Varisia looks to be cool.

Sorry, Alex. It looks like we're full. I will definitely put you on the waiting list though.


Male Workaholic, level 10
thereal thom wrote:
Alex Martin wrote:

I am somewhat curious, but not sure I can take on another pbp just yet. Any background on what's going on in this adventure, if I may ask?

Adventuring in Varisia looks to be cool.
Sorry, Alex. It looks like we're full. I will definitely put you on the waiting list though.

Oops...didn't realize I was coming in on tail-end. No worries...if something pops up later, just give me a shake over at Flamifur's.


Male Human Fighter 3

Still here, boss!

I think I'm pretty set with background -- working into Korvosa being the "lawful" city with a non-lawful character. Just some tweaks to meet my subgroup.

I'll have maximum time available between now and mid-January, but don't anticipate having trouble keeping up beyond that (yes, I am on the academic calendar, thank you).

Off to roll dice . . . (just downloaded RPGXplorer a couple days ago, so I'm good to go).


Male Human Fighter 3/ Paladin 2

Character is started. Haven't bought equipment yet but otherwise good to go. I used Invisible Castle for character ability rolls - very pleased with the subsequent results.

Jeorik is going to Korvosa to try and find at least one of his uncles, whom he has never met.

I took the bonus skill points in Knowledge (religion) and Knowledge (nature), both of which fit the character concept I wanted. Bonus feat was Big Game Hunter.

Cheliax

Thom, I'll e-mail you the full background of my character later.

For character generation: do I assume full hit points and max gold? I saw the stat generation rule above.


Male Human Fighter 3

Character sheet up. Ready and rarin' to go.


Male Human Fighter 3
Radavel wrote:
For character generation: do I assume full hit points and max gold? I saw the stat generation rule above.

He said roll startup money.

Cheliax

Darvyl Wrightson wrote:
Radavel wrote:
For character generation: do I assume full hit points and max gold? I saw the stat generation rule above.
He said roll startup money.

Still wiping the morning glory out of my eyes, thanks :D


Radavel wrote:

Thom, I'll e-mail you the full background of my character later.

For character generation: do I assume full hit points and max gold? I saw the stat generation rule above.

Yeah full hit points. Unless you really like the character creation process. Your call.


I'll finish up my PC later today.


Male Human Fighter 3/ Paladin 2

Starting gold = 170 gp

Hunting apparently can pay pretty well over the years.


Male Human Fighter 3
Jeorik Vandor wrote:


Starting gold = 170 gp

Hunting apparently can pay pretty well over the years.

Better than "wastrel" anyway (I rolled 130).


Male Human Fighter 3/ Paladin 2

Jeorik is finished and ready to go.

I switched Swim around with Handle Animal, bought a mule and gave her some commands she obeys (two years of training). Her name is Pax. I rolled her hitpoints and stated her up in the character description. Not a lot of money left, but enough for a couple of nights in Korvosa I hope.

Let me know, kindly DM, what changes if any I need to make to the background and such.


Jeorik Vandor wrote:

Jeorik is finished and ready to go.

I switched Swim around with Handle Animal, bought a mule and gave her some commands she obeys (two years of training). Her name is Pax. I rolled her hitpoints and stated her up in the character description. Not a lot of money left, but enough for a couple of nights in Korvosa I hope.

Let me know, kindly DM, what changes if any I need to make to the background and such.

Nice rolls. Invisible castle never treated me so well. (intense jealousy)

Spoiler:
I take it you dumped my bonus skill points into the religion and handle animal? Makes sense with the character. Background is good. Character is good to go.


Darvyl Wrightson wrote:
Jeorik Vandor wrote:


Starting gold = 170 gp

Hunting apparently can pay pretty well over the years.

Better than "wastrel" anyway (I rolled 130).

Darvyl looks good.

Spoiler:
Your skill list is pretty dense. Just out of curiousity where'd you dump the bonus skill points -- I guess 4 went to wainwright. Also please come up with three buddies from the guard, and a sargent and a lieutenant who would know you. Not stats -- just a couple sentences on each and your relationship with them.


The cast so far:

Darvyl, human melee fighter Good, with comments.
Jeorik, human ranged fighter Good.
Darthen, half-elf urban ranger / security specialist Good, with comments.
"Ghost", human rogue
[unnamed], human (?) cleric of (Asmodeus?)
[unnamed], unspecified arcane caster

Darvyl, Darthen and Ghost all know each other. That will work fine.


Male Human Fighter 3
thereal thom wrote:


Darvyl looks good.
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
4 points went to Craft:Wainwright, 2 went to Profession:Soldier (for a net +1). Will work on the other request.

Darthen wrote:
Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.

Darthen looks good.

Spoiler:
Would you mind if Darthen has been in business about a year? It will help me if he's had time to establish a little rep.
Also, can you give me a couple sentences each on his four main NPC contacts for info? Is your skill count right? Did you include all the useless bonus points, if so where? One other question on background: the mystery and innuendo is great for a public background, but I've got to know -- did Darthen kill the corpse, or just finger him? How dirty a job will he take?


Male Elf Rogue 6

Alright, I canned Ghost and came up with a Elven Rogue instead. Basically, the thought of playing a cliche rogue with attitude seemed like it would get old quick. Plus, I was originally thinking of an elf or half elven character. So, I've gone with an elven information specialist type rogue. If it works for you, I was thinking that he might work for the emissary from the Mierani elves to Korvosa. Maybe the emissary comes and goes, even for lenghty periods of time, so he/she keeps a couple of people in place in the city to act behind the scenes, keep tabs on things and generally gather useful information.

Most of the stats and info are posted, although I do need to flesh out the skills, background, description, and equipment. For flavor, I was thinking of asking if I could swap longsword proficiency for scimitar, but I could take it or leave it. It just strikes me that the latter is more elvish/roguish, and we have a couple of longsword guys already.


Keliwyn wrote:

Alright, I canned Ghost and came up with a Elven Rogue instead. Basically, the thought of playing a cliche rogue with attitude seemed like it would get old quick. Plus, I was originally thinking of an elf or half elven character. So, I've gone with an elven information specialist type rogue. If it works for you, I was thinking that he might work for the emissary from the Mierani elves to Korvosa. Maybe the emissary comes and goes, even for lenghty periods of time, so he/she keeps a couple of people in place in the city to keep tabs on things and generally gather useful information.

Most of the stats and info are posted, although I do need to flesh out the skills, background, description, and equipment. For flavor, I was thinking of asking if I could swap longsword proficiency for scimitar, but I could take it or leave it. It just strikes me that the latter is more elvish/roguish, and we have a couple of longsword guys already.

Brilliant. I like the concept. I'll check him out tomorrow. Scimitar for longsword? I'm inclined to approve Both are d8 damage right? What about crits?


Male Elf Rogue 6

Actually, I'd be given up damage for a bigger crit range - 1d8, 19-20/x2 for longsword, and 1d6, 18-20/x2 for scimitar.

Oh, and I'll review everything I can find regarding elves in Golarion before I flesh out the background.


Male Elf Rogue 6

Keliwyn is done and ready to go.

What's that? You're having a bad day? Wow, I'm truly sorry to hear that. Hey, let me buy you an ale and you can tell me all about it. By the way, the district's captain of the guard is a neighbor of yours, isn't he? You mind if I ask you a few questions? You know, you look hungry, let me get us some dinner while we talk.


Here is the background of Iñigo.


Male Human Fighter 3/ Paladin 2

I put the six free points in Knowledge (nature) and Knowledge (Religion).


Thom, considering that Iñigo is part of the nobility, would it be possible for him to start with breastplate armor, starting cash notwithstanding?

Also, can Iñigo take the Law Devotion feat from Complete Champion and Spontaneous Domain (Fire) Casting as an alternative class feature from PHB II? These feats would complement Iñigo's role as a Judicator, i.e. police/judge/jury/executioner. Korvosa is still a frontier compared to Cheliax.

For your ready reference, please see the following:

Spoiler:
Law Devotion (Su): The power of law assists you in combat. Once per day as a swift action, you can summon the power of law to aid you. Upon activating this ability, you immediately gain a +3 profane (in case of an evil deity) bonus on your attack rolls or to your AC until your next action. At the beginning of your next action, you can reallocate the bonus if desired. This effect last for 1 minute. This bonus increases to +5 when you attain 10th level, and to +7 when you attain 15th level. If you have the ability to turn or rebuke undead you gain one additional use of this feat for each three daily turn or rebuke uses you spend.

Spontaneous Domain Casting: You do not gain the ability to spontaneously convert prepared spells into cure or inflict spells.

You can convert stored spell energy into the spells of one of your domains. Pick one of your two domains. You can "lose" any prepared spell (other than a domain spell) to cast any spell of the same level or lower on that domain list. Your choice is permanent unless an alignment change, deity change or other dramatic event leaves you incapable of accessing the domain. In addition, when preparing spells you can fill any or all of your domain spell slots with cure or inflict spells (depending on whether you would normally convert prepared spells to cure or inflict spells) of the same level.


thereal thom wrote:
Darthen wrote:
Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.

Darthen looks good.

** spoiler omitted **

Thom:

Spoiler:

Having him in business for awhile was something I thought of initially. It would explain how he got his money/gear and built his contacts up. He is still young so a year seems about right. That will allow him to have the contacts you want info on without it feeling rushed. I will try and come up with something in the next day or two. How much detail do you want on the NPCs? You said a few sentences so just a quick bio on them? Thalus will be one of the contacts since he has already used Darthen before. Feel free to use Thalus as an NPC if you are so inclined.

I did forget to add in the 6 bonus points you gave. Those have been put into Profession (investigator) 4 ranks and Knowledge (Geography) 2 ranks.

Spoiler on the corpse:

The official got word that someone was snooping around sticking his nose where it did not belong. He grabbed a couple other corrupt guards to confront him in an alley. Out numbered he was able to use the narrow alley to hold them off. Before long a couple of Thalus' thugs came on the scene. Recognizing Darthen they crept behind the guards and flanked them. After the battle he explained to the thugs what he found. They searched the corpses, took some papers, and gave the guards' meager gear to Darthen. The thugs hauled off the officials corpse whose head later turned up on the doorsteps.

I just quickly threw that together. Darthen is neutral so chopping a head off to me sounds more cold blooded than I like. Even trying to explain it as a good idea didn't sound right.

He will take just about any job. Although murdering people is not something he does. He will defend himself and doesn't have any remorse if the person dies.

Since this was his first official contract getting the guards gear was a good way to explain how he got started.


Male Human Fighter 3
thereal thom wrote:


Darvyl looks good.
** spoiler omitted **

Requests answered on the sheet. Ready?


Darvyl Wrightson wrote:
thereal thom wrote:


Darvyl looks good.
** spoiler omitted **
Requests answered on the sheet. Ready?

Looks good.

Spoiler:
I like the mix of your guard buddies. Great variety. Left to myself I would have made the sarge the good guy; Lt. , the bad guy. This gives the sarge good reason to really despise you. Very nice. Steer clear of him.

Darthen:
The NPC don't need much detail. Just a sentence or two. Profession, relationship with you mostly. Thalus counts. I will be using him.

Spoiler:
The original corpse story was great as flavor . Added notes of menace and mystery to the character. And the ambiguity is perfect for general consumption. I just needed to know.

You and Darvyl might want to work out your relationship. Have you employed him as muscle? From his guard days does he question your propriety in the matter of the head?


Iñigo wrote:

Thom, considering that Iñigo is part of the nobility, would it be possible for him to start with breastplate armor, starting cash notwithstanding?

Also, can Iñigo take the Law Devotion feat from Complete Champion and Spontaneous Domain (Fire) Casting as an alternative class feature from PHB II? These feats would complement Iñigo's role as a Judicator, i.e. police/judge/jury/executioner. Korvosa is still a frontier compared to Cheliax.

For your ready reference, please see the following: ** spoiler omitted **

Breastplate: OK. Is it shiny? Does it come with a gleaming plumed helm?

Law devotion: Concept ok. Looks a little overpowered to me. I'd be inclined to water it down.

Spontaneous Domain: The idea of spontaneously casting domain spells is very cool. What irks me on first impression is that it also bypasses the spell domain requirement.

Are either of these 2 feats prerequisites for something you want later?

Cheliax

thereal thom wrote:

Breastplate: OK. Is it shiny? Does it come with a gleaming plumed helm?

Law devotion: Concept ok. Looks a little overpowered to me. I'd be inclined to water it down.

Spontaneous Domain: The idea of spontaneously casting domain spells is very cool. What irks me on first impression is that it also bypasses the spell domain requirement.

Are either of these 2 feats prerequisites for something you want later?

Yes on the breast plate being shiny and being accompanied by a plumed helm.

Spontaneous domain casting is an alternative class feature, it replaces spontaneous casting of inflict spells. It does not bypass the domain spell requirement, as Iñigo is sitll obliged to maintain a domain spell which he cannot convert to a Fire Domain Spell which may be an inflict spell. However, Iñigo is not precluded from using the domain slot for a Fire domain Spell.

The Law Devotion feat is not as overpowered as it may seem in the light of the fact of Iñigo's choice of deity, Asmodeus. Iñigo would have to rely more often on his personal ability rather than the assistance of others. Moreover, the 1-minute duration of the ability means that it can only be used at most for only one encounter per day and although Iñigo can invoke the ability again by spending 3 rebuke attempts, still that is a delicate balancing act that may put greater pressure in later game play, i.e. when there are a lot undead.

These feat and ability are not intended to be prerequisites for later feats. However, I am trying to build up Iñigo as a warrior-priest, a direct contrast to his rival, Paracount Julistar, an variant scholarly cleric. Julistar appeared as the leader of Her Infernal Majestrix's Expeditionary in Entombed with the Pharoahs.


Male Human Fighter 3
thereal thom wrote:


You and Darvyl might want to work out your relationship. Have you employed him as muscle? From his guard days does he question your propriety in the matter of the head?

Darthen:

Spoiler:
I took the liberty of reading your background to facilitate this; you're of course welcome to do the same. Darvyl's from a not-terribly-good neighborhood himself. There may well have been chance encounters after Darthen went on the streets. But more recently, I wonder if Darthen might have approached me about being a contractor in his business (more on the bodyguard side, of course). Darvyl is good in a fight or just to head off trouble (Improved Disarm FTW).

Thoughts?


Radavel wrote:
thereal thom wrote:

Breastplate: OK. Is it shiny? Does it come with a gleaming plumed helm?

Law devotion: Concept ok. Looks a little overpowered to me. I'd be inclined to water it down.

Spontaneous Domain: The idea of spontaneously casting domain spells is very cool. What irks me on first impression is that it also bypasses the spell domain requirement.

Are either of these 2 feats prerequisites for something you want later?

Yes on the breast plate being shiny and being accompanied by a plumed helm.

Spontaneous domain casting is an alternative class feature, it replaces spontaneous casting of inflict spells. It does not bypass the domain spell requirement, as Iñigo is sitll obliged to maintain a domain spell which he cannot convert to a Fire Domain Spell which may be an inflict spell. However, Iñigo is not precluded from using the domain slot for a Fire domain Spell.

The Law Devotion feat is not as overpowered as it may seem in the light of the fact of Iñigo's choice of deity, Asmodeus. Iñigo would have to rely more often on his personal ability rather than the assistance of others. Moreover, the 1-minute duration of the ability means that it can only be used at most for only one encounter per day and although Iñigo can invoke the ability again by spending 3 rebuke attempts, still that is a delicate balancing act that may put greater pressure in later game play, i.e. when there are a lot undead.

These feat and ability are not intended to be prerequisites for later feats. However, I am trying to build up Iñigo as a warrior-priest, a direct contrast to his rival, Paracount Julistar, an variant scholarly cleric. Julistar appeared as the leader of Her Infernal Majestrix's Expeditionary in Entombed with the Pharoahs.

Radavel, I will seriously consider your arguments.


Guys, probably won't be able to post until after Christmas. Merry Christmas to you all.


Thanks for offering to run a game, Thom, and Merry Christmas, everyone.

I'll tip one to ya'll tonight in toast to having fun with you in the new year.


Billzabub wrote:

Thanks for offering to run a game, Thom, and Merry Christmas, everyone.

I'll tip one to ya'll tonight in toast to having fun with you in the new year.

I'll raise one to meet that!

<clink>


Male Human Fighter 3

Thom,

I unpacked my skill list for you for a Christmas present!


thereal thom wrote:
Guys, probably won't be able to post until after Christmas. Merry Christmas to you all.

Wow this week has just been crazy. This is the first time I have been on the computer in two days. I will not be on until the day after Christmas at a minimum. So Merry Christmas to all of you. I hope you get what you have asked for. :D


Darthen wrote:
I hope you get what you have asked for. :D

What we asked for, or what we deserve? ;)


Pat o' the Ninth Power wrote:
Darthen wrote:
I hope you get what you have asked for. :D
What we asked for, or what we deserve? ;)

No one should get what they really deserve.


Radavel wrote:


Spontaneous domain casting is an alternative class feature, it replaces spontaneous casting of inflict spells. It does not bypass the domain spell requirement, as Iñigo is sitll obliged to maintain a domain spell which he cannot convert to a Fire Domain Spell which may be an inflict spell. However, Iñigo is not precluded from using the domain slot for a Fire domain Spell.

This is the sentence that I object to:

"In addition, when preparing spells you can fill any or all of your domain spell slots with cure or inflict spells (depending on whether you would normally convert prepared spells to cure or inflict spells) of the same level. " I don't like being able to drop inflict spells in for the domain spell. To me it violates the whole metagame premise that the domain spells are for flavor, and the in game premise that a diety wants his clerics to have a certain flare. I am fully prepared to accept spontaneous domain casting without that sentence.

Radavel wrote:


The Law Devotion feat is not as overpowered as it may seem in the light of the fact of Iñigo's choice of deity, Asmodeus. Iñigo would have to rely more often on his personal ability rather than the assistance of others. Moreover, the 1-minute duration of the ability means that it can only be used at most for only one encounter per day and although Iñigo can invoke the ability again by spending 3 rebuke attempts, still that is a delicate balancing act that may put greater pressure in later game play, i.e. when there are a lot undead.

I admit that I missed the 1/day and 1 minute limits on the spell. You're right this is basically a one encounter feat. That goes a long way toward making it more palatable. Do you agree that the bonus is either all attack or all AC? What makes you think a good-aligned DM like me would use undead?

Radavel wrote:


These feat and ability are not intended to be prerequisites for later feats. However, I am trying to build up Iñigo as a warrior-priest, a direct contrast to his rival, Paracount Julistar, an variant scholarly cleric. Julistar appeared as the leader of Her Infernal Majestrix's Expeditionary in Entombed with the Pharoahs.

Wow. I thought you had come up with Julistar and the S&M queen on your own. Are there any other good back-ground flavor bits in there?

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