playtest 01 (Inactive)
Game Master therealthom

She wathces her first shot fly off the mark, quickly adjust and launches two more arrows into the flyer

"ugh" Elmora cries out as she gets hit in the side by the Lion "ouch"

"Grumble Grog needs grog badly...maybe your pretty hide will fetch a pretty price for Grumble Grog..."

"GROG!!!"

Yes, Grumble Grog refers to himself in the third person, infuriating ain't it? He also smells of stale alcohol and sweat. CHA6

Blackie attacks the lion attacking Grumbly.

Full Attack: 1d20+14=21, 1d6+6+1d6=11, 1d20+9=25, 1d6+7+1d6=14

"By Cayden, these kitties are obnoxious, aren't they!"

I think we're waiting on grapples at the moment

Yes, we are. Sorry. Work has become almost frantic.

As I read the grapple rules the lions have a CMB of 7+5+1= 13

base attack +7, str bonus +5, size +1

The dire lion on Sleepy is 12+7+2=21

With improved grab there's no AoO.

Elmora CMB = 7, SLeepy CMB = 11 To get to grapple the lions have to beat 15 + your CMB.

Elmora 14 + 13 = 27 . You're grappled.

Sleepy 11+ 21 = 32. You're grappled.

Please double check me . It's late , I'm tired, and I'm working too fast for accuracy.

Also, the rules (p. 150) don't seem clear to me. They don't mention an opposing check by the target. That just doesn't seem right.

Strangler: No longer wants to grapple kitties. You pound them to mush instead. Two dead kitties. Really , really dead kitties. This Octopus thing is ridiculous.

Begin Round 2

Subject to double check by the party, Sleepy and Elmora are grappled. (p. 400)

Initiative: Most of you have moved down waiting for opponents to come to you.

Tialla
Elmora

Manticore

Strangler
Grumbley
Blackie

Lions

Sleepy

Dire Lion

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Actions posted so far. You may change these actions depending on if I've handled the grappples correctly.

Tialla. Free action, drop sling; free action (Quick Draw), draw shortswords; full attack on the lion.

Full attack (1d20+13=27, damage 1d4+3=5; 1d20+8=9, damage 1d4+3=4; 1d20+13=15, damage 1d4+2=3; 1d20+8=12, damage 1d4+2=6)
Looks like 8 damage total. You will have your flanker soon. Strangler was behind you in the marching order.

Blackie attacks the lion attacking Grumbly.

Full Attack: 1d20+14=21, 1d6+6+1d6=11, 1d20+9=25, 1d6+7+1d6=14

Sleepy will fight back ... obviously, and spend another ki point for an additional FoB attack.

Flurry of Blows 1: 1d20+8=28 2d6+2=11
Flurry of Blows 2: 1d20+8=14 2d6+2=12
Flurry of Blows 3: 1d20+3=6 2d6+2=5
Flurry of Blows 4: 1d20+8=18 2d6+2=8

Elmora casts enlarge person on herself

Spellcraft DC15+SL (16)

grappled enlarge person (1d20+17=19)

Sleepy wrote:

Sleepy will fight back ... obviously, and spend another ki point for an additional FoB attack.

Flurry of Blows 1: 1d20+8=28 2d6+2=11
Flurry of Blows 2: 1d20+8=14 2d6+2=12
Flurry of Blows 3: 1d20+3=6 2d6+2=5
Flurry of Blows 4: 1d20+8=18 2d6+2=8

Wow...regular lions have a BAB of +3, and these lions have a BAB of +7! This is a souped-up dire lion, too (+12 BAB instead of +6). No wonder they're so good at grappling.

On Strangler's turn he makes another 8 tentacle lashes (and one bite) at any lions within range. (no grapples) Note that all of his damage is nonlethal, so the lions are not dead, just resting.

tentacles: 1d20+13=15 1d20+13=16 1d20+13=15 1d20+13=29 1d20+13=27 1d20+13=28 1d20+13=28 1d20+13=29

tentacle damage: 1d4+1d6+8=17 1d4+1d6+8=11 1d4+1d6+8=14 1d4+1d6+8=12 1d4+1d6+8=14 1d4+1d6+8=17 1d4+1d6+8=13 1d4+1d6+8=12

bite attack & damage: 1d20+8=10 1d8+1d6+4=12

Wow...regular lions have a BAB of +3, and these lions have a BAB of +7! This is a souped-up dire lion, too (+12 BAB instead of +6). No wonder they're so good at grappling.

On Strangler's turn he makes another 8 tentacle lashes (and one bite) at any lions within range. (no grapples) Note that all of his damage is nonlethal, so the lions are not dead, just resting.

tentacles: 1d20+13=15 1d20+13=16 1d20+13=15 1d20+13=29 1d20+13=27 1d20+13=28 1d20+13=28 1d20+13=29

tentacle damage: 1d4+1d6+8=17 1d4+1d6+8=11 1d4+1d6+8=14 1d4+1d6+8=12 1d4+1d6+8=14 1d4+1d6+8=17 1d4+1d6+8=13 1d4+1d6+8=12

bite attack & damage: 1d20+8=10 1d8+1d6+4=12

Bite is lethal isn't it?

Not dead just resting...good that means the hides won't be damaged when Grumble skins them.

None of his natural/unarmed attacks do lethal damage because he's currently wearing a merciful amulet of mighty fists.

left my notes at home. Soo ... Sleepy just barely slips the grapple. Elmora is still grappled.

You rain down death and destruction on the poor kitties. Or in Strangler's case subdual damage.

I'll assume Tialla sidles toward Strangler so that she can pick up flanking if Strangler attacks her lion.

Sleepy beats up on his dire lion and notices it has previous slashing wounds.

I'll let you know the results of your attacks and your opponents reply when I get home tonight.

If the lion I was fighting is killed by another player I will spring to the one that's on Elmora with a single attack. If the one I'm fighting is alive I'll slaughter it with a Full attack.

GROGGGG!!!!!

First attack:
1d20+16=18, 1d10+6+1d6=17
second attack if I'm able to do a Full attack.
1d20+13=26, 1d10+6+1d6=20

Merciful Amulet of Might blows...interesting

Can we have a quick update of which monsters are still alive and kicking?

Hi All,

Here is a summary of battle so far.

Round 1 battle map

Round 2 battle map

Round 2: Initiatives now that some folks have dropped to match the lions:

Tialla 27
Elmora 19
Strangler 11
Grumbley 11
Blackie 11
Sleepy 11
All leonine creatures 11

Tialla full attack on Lion 1, 2 of four attacks hit, she does 8 points.

Elmora successfully casts Enlarge Person on herself.

--- The following PC/lion attacks are all simultaneous:

Strangler first throws 3 tentacles on Lion 3, squishing it and knocking it unconscious. Then reaching out with 2 more toward the one on Tialla, knocking that one unconscious too. Lastly, two more reach out for the lion on Elmora, severely wounding that one too.

Grumbly first attack on Lion 6, hits, does 17 more damage and kills it. Seeing Elmora in trouble, he then moves to kill that one.

Blackie sees that most of the lions are down or under control, except for the manticore and the dire lion. Moving to Sleepy's side, he attacks:
6 + 11: 17, hits, d6 + 4 + d6: 13 points

Sleepy hits with two FoB attacks, 19 more points on Dire Lion

Lion 1 full attack on Tialla: 2 claws +7 melee (1d4+5) and bite +2 melee (1d8+2) vs AC 25
17 + 7: 24, miss
12 + 7: 19, miss
14 + 2: 16, miss

Lion 3 full attack on Strangler: 2 claws +7 melee (1d4+5) and bite +2 melee (1d8+2) vs AC 24
14 + 7: 24, hit: 8 points
13 + 7: 23, miss
19 + 2: 21, miss

Lion 4 grapple check on Elmora: (d20 + 9 CMB + 5 circumstance bonus: 24 vs DC 15 + 7 CMB + 1 str from EP + 1 size: 24, lion hits): lion does unarmed damage: d4+5+d4+5+d8+2: 22 points

Lion 6 full attack on Grumble: 2 claws +7 melee (1d4+5) and bite +2 melee (1d8+2) vs AC 29, all miss.

Manticore flies up to 45' height and then shoots a volley of spikes at the giant octopus:
10 + 8: 18, miss
9 + 8: 17, miss
16 + 8: 24, hits, d8+2: 3 points
16 + 8: 24, hits, d8+2: 7 points
16 + 8: 24, hits, d8+2: 4 points
6 + 8: 14, miss

Dire Lion full attacks Sleepy 2 claws +13 melee (1d6+7) and bite +7 melee (1d8+3) vs AC 20:
16 + 13: 29, hit, d6+7: 10 points
18 + 13: 31, hit, d6+7: 9 points
10 + 7: 17, miss

Summary of conditions:

Fantastic! Just one comment: a creature with Improved Grab does natural weapon damage (bite damage, in the case of lions) instead of unarmed strike damage on a successful grapple check.

Fantastic! Just one comment: a creature with Improved Grab does natural weapon damage (bite damage, in the case of lions) instead of unarmed strike damage on a successful grapple check.

Thanks, I'm sure I made a few mistakes. I think I got Strangler's AC in octopus form correct, but not 100% sure. I'll correct all the mistakes pointed out for the next round. I also neglected to add some of the human racial bonuses to Sleepy's stats (2 points to stats, favored class bonuses, etc.), so I'll look at that too.

Elmora will attempt to break free from the grapple.

1d20=14+7CMB+1STR+1SIZE=23 ...

Without some means of flight, Tialla's pretty much useless now. I don't think her little 1d3+1 sling is going to make much of a difference to the manticore. Anyone got any suggestions?

I think a Channel Energy from the cleric might be helpful about now...

Seeing the land battle is well in hand, Strangler casts Air Walk on himself to confront the manticore.

Seeing the Octo-Druid and the Monk in hard shape, Bartimus pulls forth his battered mug, raises it in a salute and says, "If you don't heal 'em mate, their stories won't be worth the tellin'!"

Channel Energy (attempting to catch the Monk and Octo-Druid in the burst): 5d6=22

22 healing to Octo and Monk!

Seeing the Octo-Druid and the Monk in hard shape, Bartimus pulls forth his battered mug, raises it in a salute and says, "If you don't heal 'em mate, their stories won't be worth the tellin'!"

Channel Energy (attempting to catch the Monk and Octo-Druid in the burst): 5d6=22

22 healing to Octo and Monk!

I'm assuming Bart will try to position himself to catch the monk and druid? I noticed he doesn't have Selective Channeling, so if any lions are in the burst, they too will be healed.

Dang...too many lions between the druid and the monk. Well, go with your heart. :-)

Black-Eyed Bartimus wrote:

Seeing the Octo-Druid and the Monk in hard shape, Bartimus pulls forth his battered mug, raises it in a salute and says, "If you don't heal 'em mate, their stories won't be worth the tellin'!"

Channel Energy (attempting to catch the Monk and Octo-Druid in the burst): 5d6=22

22 healing to Octo and Monk!

I'm assuming Bart will try to position himself to catch the monk and druid? I noticed he doesn't have Selective Channeling, so if any lions are in the burst, they too will be healed.

If I might revise, attack the dire lion in front of me now and I'll move to channel next round. Sorry, missed the map, which is VERY helpful by the way!

Attack: 1d20+14=21, 1d6+7+1d6=17, 1d20+9=29, 1d6+7+1d6=16

Possible crit on the second shot: 1d20+9=11, 1d6+7+1d6=13 No confirmation!

Round 3
Battlemap

Correction from round 2, Elmora only took bite damage in round 2, d8+2: 8 points.

Initiatives:
Tialla 27
Elmora 19
Strangler 11
Grumbley 11
Blackie 11
Sleepy 11
All leonine creatures 11

Tialla whips that little sling of hers up towards the manticore: d20 + 3: 23, crit confirm d20+3: 19, confirmed, (d3+1)x2: 4 points.

Elmora attempts to break the stranglehold the lion has on her: 23 vs DC 27 (15 + lion's CMB: 3 base + 5 str + 2 improved grab), failure, Elmora is not free.

All actions from here on are simultaneous
Strangler casts air walking upon himself this round and succeeds. He moves upward 10' (1/2 speed)

Grumbly whacks away at the lion Elmora disengaged from: d20+16: 27, d20+11: 24, 1d10+6+1d6: 14, 1d10+6+1d6: 19

Blackie continues to pummel the dire lion gouging Sleepy, two hits for 33 points of damage

Sleepy does a normal FoB vs the dire lion: 1d20+8=26, 1d20+8=21, 1d20+3=7, 2 hits: 19 more points

Manticore flies up to 70' height and then shoots a volley of spikes at the now floating, giant octopus:
d20 + 8: 12, miss
d20 + 8: 27, hits, d8+2: 10 points
d20 + 8: 22, miss
d20 + 8: 13, miss
d20 + 8: 13, miss
d20 + 8: 21, miss

Lion 4 maintains grapple, does bite damge
d20 + 12: 27 vs DC 24 (15 + Elmora's CMB: 7, + 1 size, + 1 str)
d8 + 3: 7 points

Dire Lion full attacks Sleepy 2 claws +13 melee (1d6+7) and bite +7 melee (1d8+3) vs AC 20:
d20 + 13: 16, miss
d20 + 13: 26, hit, d6+7: 10 points
d20 + 7: 24, hit, d8+3: 10 points
Free grapple check: d20 + 14: 16 vs DC 32, miss

Status:

Strangler the Octopus glubbers with rage at the cowardly manticore. He gains a little more altitude and then blasts the flying lion with a gout of divine flame!

flame strike, DC 16
9d6=28

Elmora will hold her action, waiting for Grumble to free her.

GRumbel will full attack the lion on Elmora. In addition I will activiate my Lion's Shield! "Roar"
Axe attacks:
1d20+16=25, 1d20+11=22

Axe Damage:1d10+6+1d6 =10, 1d10+6+1d6 =16

Lion shield Attacks:1d20+14=16, 1d20+9=10
"crummy shield doesn't want to attack its own!!!"

Possible dmg for the 16 on the shield:2d6=10

"Have at you RUG!!"

Elmora will hold her action, waiting for Grumble to free her.

Why doesn't Elmora just cast a spell (e.g. Glitterdust)? The Spellcraft DC is pretty trivial -- DC 17.

Remember -- being grappled is way, way less painful than it is in 3.5. You can even make (one-handed) attacks normally, if you want.

Elmora, Elven Summoner wrote:

Elmora will hold her action, waiting for Grumble to free her.

Why doesn't Elmora just cast a spell (e.g. Glitterdust)? The Spellcraft DC is pretty trivial -- DC 17.

Remember -- being grappled is way, way less painful than it is in 3.5. You can even make (one-handed) attacks normally, if you want.

I apologize I wasn't clearer. If you look at the map, there is only one target left - the manticore. Grumbly did, indeed, send the lion on Elmora into the lion-afterlife, in round 3.

Blackie will cast lose Holy Smite to cast a Cure Critical Wounds spell on Sleepy.

Healing Smite-Down!: 4d8+9=26

Elmora quickly recovers from the lion, and draws back her bow three times, launching flaming death at the manticore1d20+8=25, 1d20+8=15, 1d20+3=22 (reduced attack numbers due to large size.)

damage for possible hits.1d10+1+1d6=6, 1d10+1+1d6=14, 1d10+1+1d6=8

therefore grumble doesn't attack this turn.

so he doesn't use his lion shield for the day.

Round 4

Battlemap

Initiatives:
Tialla 27
Elmora 19
Strangler 11
Grumbley 11
Blackie 11
Sleepy 11
Manticore 11

Tialla: full attack w/sling: d20+14=24, d20+9=18, d3+1= 2, d3+1=4, 6 points.

Elmora full attack, hits with first, third attacks: 14 points

Simultaneous attacks:
Strangler flame strike: Reflex save, d20 + 7: 14, fails, 28 points

Grumbly grumbles something about missing out on all the fun

Blackie's CCW brings Sleepy back up from the dying.

Manticore's last volley at Strangler:
d20+8: 9, miss
d20+8: 23, miss
d20+8: 12, miss
d20+8: 10, miss
d20+8: 10, miss
d20+8: 11, miss

End of round, everyone is still alive, lions, dire lion, manticore are down.

Now that this encounter is over, I would appreciate any thoughts on this. We should round up the relevant points and post them to the playtest reports forum. Let's use the discussion thread to organize our thoughts.

Link to the horned devil playtest encounter.