The Legacy of Marianasu - DM Downrightamazed

Game Master downrightamazed

Response coming in a bit :)

Traveling tonight for 4 hours to family, so may or may not have access. Hopefully Kyras will get a break and be able to pick up the convo. Wei/Chu? Have anything to add for flavor?

Response inbound princess, digest that for awhile. Poor Min. :p

Got it! Can't wait to see what Min does with what he got.

Hopefully, my message wasn't to bad lol :)

What's going on with Dry Heaving Min?

Stuff. Min's having a rough day. :)

I'd like to make it clear, not My fault. :P

I had no idea I would get to use the tattoo and that spell anytime remotely close to this soon!

I am pretty happy with the results......

DM will have to weigh in on how I am abusing the tattoo spell reservoir and the call the void spell..........

I think of it like Bel taking people on a "bad trip"

Message from beyoooooond...

Lol the "what's wrong with him" was about Min. I forgot to say she looked at him. Crap.

Man, I can't wait till Damian's gruff, iron will meets Kyras' passionate, fiery temper.

EDIT: Speaking of Damian, you pitching in with Aylaeth here bro?

Should there be an initiative or can Bel really just whip out the void as a preemptive strike? Cause that void is gonna affect both Kyras and Azami. Or are we just rolling with it?

Otherwise, that's a nifty trick. What's the save DC?

Well, since none of your were in battle, wouldn't it count as a surprise attack? Or would that not fly as most of you were expecting, and thus perhaps ready, for a fight?

Not sure, but Kyras rolled initiative, expecting (one might say "inviting") an attack. I'll let Kyras decide if he wants to RP it or require a roll.

Either way, Belsarious broke the peace.

Phone dying, so likely nothing more from me for a bit. If we are attacking, there's my initiative.

I rolled the Initiative for anyone to try to disrupt him. Belsarious will have to roll Initiative if he wants to interrupt it with the void. Let's at least get all the Initiative rolls in before we break out in heavy PVP. (And remember, don't kill another player in PVP. That's rude.)

Negative ghost rider kyras went for the abomination.....

I would be plenty happy to say the point was to block the grabbing of the thing rather than to catch anyone in the area of effect, that way K-man can choose whether or not to go into it......

@Kyras no way the void can kill you, unless you are way low on hit points......

BELSARIOUS will save dc 22 :) or be dominated.

Also unless you readied an action then Kyras has the right of it. Roll initiative and make it fair. If you had a readied action then wouldn't bluff checks be require or else someone would be wondering as to what you were up to?

Don't forget the -2 to the Initiative roll, Belsarious, from the earlier successful Intimidate. Chu seems to have the current lead at Initiative 25.

In a high-stakes situation like this, let's be sticklers about the rules. We don't want this turning into Calvinball.

Doesn't intimidate only last for one round? (or a few, depending)
Surely that's long past by now.

And LMAO! Calvinball! Best.Game.Ever!

I also did not technically cast a spell...

The spell was cast this morning into the tattoo, I merely brought it back out, which stickler wise would chijitsu reacting to not spellcasting but reacting to the void itself appearing.....

So first need to resolve the void coming and Kyras choice on entering the area adjacent to me....or not.....

So what's actually going on?
I saw it more as threatening an area with an AoO....on the area not the guy, which I think is irrelevant to initiative, but could be wrong......

If I rolled a 20, my intiiative would only be 24......which means I can't win initiative, but I was adjacent to the thing to have a talk......

It's probably getting close to finishing up. Kyras beat the Intimidate DC by more than 15, which added three rounds to the duration.

Activating the tattoo is a standard action, as the rules state that it is essentially the same as a standard item. You can't activate a magic item as an attack of opportunity.

Speaking of intimidate...heh heh

I guess the question is for the DM to resolve.......The question is as you approached taking out the cloth and not addressing me can I make the area uncomfortable for you to enter as a standard action, before you get into it?. Then you would have to chose to enter the area or not.

Or does initiative cancel both positioning and readied actions?

I am not certain......any others have thoughts on the weirdness?

I guess the next question is if it actually stops kyras from grabbing it, I would say no. As nothing in the spell would do that.

......Then dominate person comes into effect.......

Activating the spell is a standard action. It is essentially a spell completion item. Depending on the mode of activation it may or may not provoke.

Ideas about positioning and readied actions don't really exist without Initiative. We could casually say "I ready an action to do x if y happens, but in truth, readied action impact your place in initiative, and assume you are in a reactionary mindset. If you are trying to stop someone from doing something, react to it, or otherwise impact their action, you roll initiative and proceed normally. Having said that, you could have a surprise action if the other person is completely unaware you may act.

As an objective observer, it looks like straight initiative, then order of initiative, with no surprises. Remember that during the first round of actions, a nonsurprised person is still flatfooted and faster-acting characters still have the drop on them. People get the concepts of surprised and flatfooted confused a lot.

Hope I was helpful. Now I'm gonna go find out which Sera sister loves me the most.

I was seeing it play out more cinematic....ly, as K approached saying far enough and then having dialogue. His post was way too many actions, coming in hot from on high grabbing the item, and then (actually not sure did he stop there?) Or did he head out?.....

Which his rush in from where.....would have taken how long......movement is rules to.

Positioning and timing seem to be the major things. I felt I had plenty of time, that if he rushed I could still void the area before he arrived.

Activating the spell is a standard action. It is essentially a spell completion item. Depending on the mode of activation it may or may not provoke.

Ideas about positioning and readied actions don't really exist without Initiative. We could casually say "I ready an action to do x if y happens, but in truth, readied action impact your place in initiative, and assume you are in a reactionary mindset. If you are trying to stop someone from doing something, react to it, or otherwise impact their action, you roll initiative and proceed normally. Having said that, you could have a surprise action if the other person is completely unaware you may act.

As an objective observer, it looks like straight initiative, then order of initiative, with no surprises. Remember that during the first round of actions, a nonsurprised person is still flatfooted and faster-acting characters still have the drop on them. People get the concepts of surprised and flatfooted confused a lot.

Hope I was helpful. Now I'm gonna go find out which Sera sister loves me the most.

This. Exactly. After having just gone through one busted combat due to wonky initiatives, I cannot stress the importance of holding to initiative in PvP. Once the your in turn based combat, ya can't do anything besides an immediate action or AOO. A declared prepared action is cool, but you still have to go by your turn. I can say 'prepared action to slap Kyras if he does something goofy' but if he has a 20 and I've got an 18 initiative wise, then he's able to complete the stupid before I get to go smacky.

Traveling tonight for 4 hours to family, so may or may not have access. Hopefully Kyras will get a break and be able to pick up the convo. Wei/Chu? Have anything to add for flavor?

Wei is a bit out of his depth right now. Hasn't adventured in decades, and now all this fun stuff since this morning. He doesn't have any personal stake in the current events, so he's just following Chu's lead.

Maybe I'll throw in some flavor tomorrow before I head off to entertain bikers.

Chu is just pissed off. Lol

In three days the entire empire has been turned on its head and the last thing he wants is another battle in the streets. He's starting to regret leaving the library... ;)

Azami is quietly hoping she doesn't have to kill her friend here.
*no possession, no possession, no possession!*

Just a friend? Hmph!

With Day Three not even over yet, that's all she'd be pressed to admit to in public, Kyras-san.

Besides, they need to have a "discussion" about what happened in the Undercity--in as much as Azami "discusses" anything.

Hmmm, I seem to have lost my dot and missed this last bit of discussion. Which is really annoying...wonder what Maiathreen would have done if he was there for this confrontation... Oh wait...there'd be bodies Mai's not patient or diplomatic. Unles Min directly told him to stand down...it might work.

Kyras wants to skip straight to the relationship, fast mover that one...

So I was looking at the Mythic Adventures stuff...and I really love the legendary weapons stuff...but the abilities...I don't know just seem lackluster I mean you can end up with a major artifact at the end and yet...there doesn't seem to be a way to give it artifacty abilities look at the Tarnhelm you can become a dragon for as long as you want. Why can't I make a sword that transforms you into a demon for as long as you want or until dispelled? How? There isn't a way and yet the legendary weapon ability can make you a weapon as powerful as that and yet the most powerful thing you can get is semi immortality.

It's odd to me I mean granted to many abilities and you can get abusive with it but it just seems a bit underpowered for what it's supposed to become.

If there's one thing I've learned, it's to never underestimate my players' abilities to "get abusive" with basically anything.

Ain't that the...hey wait Boss that's not directed at me is it? ;p

Also the question in this case is for my Tiefling for WotR. I'm trying to give him. A "devil trigger" ability. That's activated by having his greatsword which will eventually become a major artifact of awesomeness. Thinking about using the Tarnhelm as the basis 2 mythic points and have a demonic form. But don't know how go about it...

Hahaa, naw, not directed at you. It's directed at all players, myself included. "Getting Abusive" isn't necessarily a bad thing, you know; it shows the players are thinking and keeps a GM on his/her toes.

Hey guys, wanted to say I'm really impressed with how that whole standoff went down. Easily one of my favorite moments, ever. I've re-read that page of posts three times now and the way it went down is just completely f!#+ing amazing to me. Thank you all for being so ridiculously awesome and working together to resolve the initiative question, etc. in the coolest, most story-appropriate way possible. You are all amazing, and I once again am reminded how phenomenally lucky I am to be able to GM for so many tremendously great players.

Thank you!

I wanted to make sure I pointed out how great the standoff was, because I see from the OOC here that there was some frustration, but to me, as an objective set of eyes coming in after the fact, you need to know that it reads really well, and is a real nail-biter.

Wait till sir D sees the void.

I suspect min/lin to ask about it at some point.

I have never optimized Belsarious nor felt the need to just hanging out with his "buds"

I'm glad you approved of his things went down boss man. It was a fun moment and things will get more interesting later. It was a fun confrontation though mainly felt bad for Belsarious but that's how the dice goes. ;)

So, Azami indicated that they (Kyras and she) need to do some other things before they go to the palace. Is that kosher? I can't tell from the large post whether you recognized this or not.

Her intention is to go to the place Takagami told her to go, as well as deal with the things I told you of in email. There things/discussions Must happen before they go to the palace.

Also, did Kyras get the glass?

I saw that Yeo told Damian and Aylaeth they were at the east gate. So, I had them walk at least part of the way, with the hope it will be in the same direction as the place Takagami told them to go.

Cool. That Damian/Kyras meeting may happen Soon!

What's the difference between the gates?

Finery? I do not believe Azami owns anything like that.

Another chance for Bel to streak.....

Awww Chu, she thinks you're on her side. As usual, can't trust palace types.

Wonder if we all shouldn't go over to MoW soon.

If we do then Min will be coming with us. :)

Its not a for sure thing as anyone higher ranking then Chu can veto his requests for support and that'll be that. Which i am fully prepared for that eventuality.

However i expect a quiet battle between ninja really soon. Lol as i am sure i am the last person issuing ninja to follow you two...

Don't know why...but I really want Maiathreen to meet Chu.