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XCOM: Enemy Unleashed

Game Master JDPhipps

Originally assigned as UN Peacekeepers after a mysterious incident in the Middle East, a group of exceptional individuals have been recruited by a mysterious government organization after it's discovered that Earth is facing an imminent alien invasion.


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Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

I thought I improved my Smarts last advance to d8, but it's only listed in one area and the others still show d6. How do I check that?


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto
Borax Bohan wrote:
Alright. Then I'll go with Smarts to d8

Ah yes. I did improve smarts in this link:

http://paizo.com/campaigns/XCOMEnemyUnleashed/discussion&page=3#121

Thank you both for the suggestions. I'll go with Rock'n'Roll per Jon's recommendation. I think our group is a little low on raw fire power and I did sign up for as a heavy assault type of role.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Not that I'm trying to change your mind, but both Rosa and Gavril took Rock and Roll this Advance as well. If you wanted to take some abilities to boost your Leadership edge or anything else you could definitely afford to. If you want to stick with Rock & Roll that's fine, though. Just wanted to let you know you don't need to feel pressured into that option.

Also, it's worth noting that we're going to get... someone new in here soon-ish, who will likely also fill an assault role to a degree. That'll happen after this story arc is done, though.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

Another "assaulter"? Damnit! When will I get a explosive buddy!


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Nothing says they can't like bombs, Jacob.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Between Inspire (+2 to Spirit rolls) and Hold the Line (+1 Toughness) which is more generally useful? Or which would have the biggest impact on our game?

Also, what about Level Headed (2 action cards, choose the best). Is that something that's quite useful?

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

As I said, Level Headed is indeed useful.

Jacob, for example, has both Quick and Level Headed. That means he draws two cards and keeps redrawing until he gets a 5 or higher... and when I get Improved Level Headed, that goes up to three cards.

You can never go wrong with going first.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Level Headed is good, but better when compared with Quick. Without it the Edge is still useful, but you run the risk of ending up with a pair of threes or something for initiative in a round. However, when combined they generally have you going near the top of initiative all the time. In the Fallout game I was in with Gavril and Rosa, I had both Edges (Rosa's PC had Improved Level-Headed, even) and we were pretty much always the first ones to act.

When it comes to Toughness vs. Spirit, it's kind of a wash. Both are definitely good. Toughness will mean they're rolling to Unshake less often which is good on its own, not to mention it means they're a little less likely to be wounded. Meanwhile, a total of +2 to Unshake means characters will very rarely fail checks and won't be stuck without the ability to act in a given round. However, heavily combat-based characters often take Combat Reflexes which gives a +2 on its own; since you only need a 4 you automatically pass with that Edge and Command unless there are penalties. I would ever so slightly favor Toughness over Spirit, but that's just me; not having to roll in the first place beats a better roll. Either one will be good for this team though, and depending on how many people take Combat Reflexes at some point in the future I might recommend eventually taking both.

I'm going to give Jackalyn until tomorrow, and then I'll move on without her for the time being.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Will Borax get the Toughness benefit of Hold the Line as well?

If so, I'm inclined to go with that.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

It's... debatable whether or not it applies to the person in question. I believe the official answer might be no, however I tend to disagree with that assessment. I picture Command as being used not as an inspiring sort of thing but as a measure of tactical acumen (since it requires Smarts and not Spirit) so it makes sense to me that you would benefit from your own knowledge and experience.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

I haven't heard from Jackalyn despite several PMs and posts here, so I'm just going to bot her for now and assume she takes up Marksman as her Edge. If she shows up she can obviously change that, but for right now it's easiest for me and it keeps us moving. Some time today I'm going to put out some feelers for people who might be interested, and if I haven't heard from her at all by the time I've got some interested people who're ready to jump on board with this, I may invite more than one new player to the game. She's disappeared from every game I'm in with her without a whole lot of warning, so I'm inclined to believe something is up, but I don't really know. If I do take on more people and she shows back up, we'll just have a party of seven, I suppose. I was hoping to keep it relegated to six for my benefit and because of the way the new XCOM games limit group size, but we'll roll with the punches.

In other news, we'll be moving along in game some time today. I have to build more NPCs for the other game that needs updating today, but then we'll be moving ahead here too.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

I wanted to check Jacob's plan with y'all, specially Jon, so I get party approval and the DM can tell me what should I roll and how many times.

Idea is to sneak around the camp until I get to the vehicles and crates, putting two C4 there (probably placing a claymore there as well, at least partially facing the detpacks to act as 'secondary trigger' if for any reason I can't push the button).
After that, Jacob would sneak until he can get the helicopter in range.

Now the plan here has two variations: the first option would be for Jacob to unload his 'nade launcher on the helicopter, that being the signal for Jackalyn, before waiting for the mercs to run towards the vehicles and Jacob detonating them.
Second option would be to do it the other way, Jacob detonates the vehicles and amjdst the confusion tries to blow up the helicopter before withdrawing. The flaming vehicules being Jackalyn's signal here.

Sooo, any suggestions?


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

I should clarify this is not a civilian helicopter, it's a military chopper. In game terms, this means a lot of armor and the Heavy quality, meaning only Heavy Weapons can damage it. Your grenades are not heavy weapons, so the least they can do it... make the helicopter Shaken? That's a weird thing to think, but it's the gist of it. Point being, it could still flee with the captives but could otherwise not use its weapons to fight back. The ground vehicles are also fairly well armored but aren't Heavy, meaning your explosives can easily damage them. Jackalyn is the only one who currently has a heavy weapon and therefore is the only one who can even potentially damage the helicopter. However, I'll still need to roll a lot of damage in order to keep it from being able to fly. She'd be taking a called shot on the gas tank, but if this is what you all want to do I will roll it. If this information means you want to try an alternative way to keep them from boarding or something like that, feel free. However, assuming at least Jacob keeps the same strategy...

You can roll me a Stealth roll to try and sneak up to the vehicles, and roll... a Common Knowledge check using your Explosive Devices specialty. You need a success in order to set the charges, and a raise will add damage to them as normal. Each attempt takes one action. Each time you fail, the next round you'll need to make a Stealth roll (as you're no longer keeping time with their patrols and movements, so you need to double check and make sure you'll slip past them again). Once you're done, you can take cover wherever and


Wounds: 0/3 | Bennies: 2/3 | Parry: 4 | Toughness: 8/10 (2/4) | Charisma: +2 | Pace: 6

If only Jacklyn can actually hit the chopper, I suggest that we have her fire as soon as she has her best shot, even if Jacob isn't ready yet. We can't afford to let that chopper get on the ground, otherwise we'll lose our targets.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

So how about this plan>

1. We sneak into base. Jacob plants the bombs.

2. Chase takes out Lena.

3. Bombs go off

4. We finish of Lena, and get Malik out.

My only confusion is whether we even really need Malik. Seems like Lena is more valuable for info as Malik is only leading us to Lena and the bigger org. So I'm obviously missing something because they captured Malik alive.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

I mentioned it in my post, but the helicopter has already landed. They just haven't attempted to board yet. They're probably a turn away if they roll well on a Running test. It isn't "ready to go", though, as in the rotors are not turning and it would have to get up to speed before flying away.

As for Borax's plan, it's perfectly serviceable mechanically. I'll have Jackalyn fire on her whenever you guys want her to.

There's a reason they took Malik alive. Not one that you know, necessarily, but there's a reason.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Any reason why Jacob can't plant a bomb on the inside of the helicopter cockpit? Don't know if this one has pilot doors or not.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Too many people are close by. As they're getting ready to load stuff onto the chopper and there's not a lot of cover on the way to the helicopter (as opposed to the vehicles, which are both closer and also can be hidden behind along with boxes) it would be borderline impossible to make it there without being seen. He could try, but the penalty for the Stealth check would be pretty rough.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Just waiting on a confirmation from the others that this plan is good and I'll get us moving.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

Two questions and then I post the modified plan with Borax input so the others can give it the green signal:

1)Using the McGiver edge, could I improvise a HIgh-Ex round for the grenade launcher? Initial idea is to open a 'nade canister or two and replace the charge with C4 and shotgun pellets.
2)Are there called shots for vehicles? Something like aiming at the cockpit's windshield or the door they are using to load the crates. The chopper may be armored, but his innards maybe not.

Those are my two cents regarding how could I try to damage the chopper. If the answer to those is no, here is the updated plan:

1) Jacob sneaks in and plants C4 on the crates and vehicles. He sneaks away from the bombs.
2) Chase takes out Lena or the armored guy, or both. Non lethally if possible (Shooting their legs? Shooting their weapons?)
3) The bombs go off, Jacob provides blanket bombing via 'nade launcher so the team can enter the scene with covering fire.
4) We take Malik, and if possible Lena and/or the armored guy.
5) We leg it.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

1. I don't know if I'd count C4 as a heavy weapon since I'm also pretty certain Claymores aren't and we're treating them as similar. Even if I do, though, it would likely take a bit to do that and by the time you do the helicopter could take off.

2. There... aren't? The only really vulnerable place would probably be the cockpit; while the inside of the chopper isn't necessarily all that well armored it also does house anything necessary to piloting it. If you could get to the cockpit and fire into it you might do some damage, but that brings up the issue of potentially being spotted while trying to get there. Not saying you can't try, but it will be much more difficult.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

I'm cool with whatever Jacob and others want to do. It's a game and I am all in favor of people finding ways to use their abilities/edges.

Borax thinks any plan they execute is going to work because he's overconfident.

On a side note: I recently watched a youtube video of WTC7. The third building in the 9/11 attack that fell down in a free fall on its own footprint. Only....the building wasn't hit by a plane. You know...until today, I didn't give much credence to 9/11 conspiracy talk. But having watched that video, I don't know WTC7 falls down like that outside a intentional demolition.

Then I started watching other videos and its even harder to not think stuff was going on. Apparently the vast majority of the Air Force's fighter jets were all off doing simulated terrorist attack exercises on that same day.

If any of you have the time, look up WTC7 on youtube. I'm curious what others think.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Actually, WTC7 collapsed because of debris from WTC 1. While the debris didn't cause enough structural damage to actually collapse the building, the debris was on fire. The fire eventually caught across the building and caused a collapse which just compounded upon itself until the building was no longer structurally stable and it collapsed. The big thing is that buildings like that relied on stable floors to hold part of the load, and when they collapsed the outer structure of the building is no longer capable of holding the weight. Also, the explosives, if they could level the building, would have caused a 130-140 decible shock wave that would have been heard at least half a mile away. My brother's friend is a civil engineer, and actually linked a great article a while back on a mutual Facebook friend's page about this very topic.

Here it is.

Conspiracy theories are often fun and I like to look into them, but a lot of times there's just not a lot to back them up. If we're talking about them though, my favorite it probably that the Mafia hired Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate JFK because Lyndon B. Johnson had familial connections to the mafia and they thought they could strong-arm him into being more lenient with organized crime.

That, or Flat-Earth. Those cooky bastards.

PS: By the by, you can go ahead and roll for that plan. I'll need a Stealth roll, and a Common Knowledge roll for explosive you set. Any time you fail a Common Knowledge roll, I need another Stealth check.


WTC talk:
Jon, The Evil DM wrote:
Actually, WTC7 collapsed because of debris from WTC 1. While the debris didn't cause enough structural damage to actually collapse the building, the debris was on fire. The fire eventually caught across the building and caused a collapse which just compounded upon itself until the building was no longer structurally stable and it collapsed.

Yeah, that's what was reported by the NIS. But here's the rub. The building fell on its own foot print with virtually no resistance for the first eight seconds or so. If that were normal, you wouldn't have to spend thousands of dollars to have high rises demolished with expensive explosives experts. You'd could just sent some level floor on fire with office equipment and have the building come down super neat and tidy.

Even if an office fire, which is shown as being nearly extinguished before the building collapsed, was sufficient to weaken columns, what's the probability that all the support columns fail simultaneously such that the building wouldn't tip?

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Also, the explosives, if they could level the building, would have caused a 130-140 decible shock wave that would have been heard at least half a mile away.

As a response to that common observation, more than a few people have posted actual videos where explosions are heard and people are reflexively crouching. Truthfully, though, I don't put much stock in that as definitive proof.

Here it is. I'll check out the link.

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Conspiracy theories are often fun and I like to look into them.

To be honest, I have largely ignored the conspiracy theories about 9/11. But I hadn't seen the WTC 7 video until a few days ago. One of my beliefs is that conspiracies are too hard to pull off at this level. There are too many loose ends, you need too many things to go just right. But what if that's exactly what we've seen? What if all the things that are proof of a conspiracy are right there and we are still refusing to believe it?

One of the questions that comes up in the videos is about why F-16's weren't scrambled to take out the airplanes? Well...one video explains that of the twenty some jets that should have been available, all but eight were on simulated terrorist attack training. It's suggested that Cheney was the only with the power to coordinate this. In addition, it's stated that all the military personnel in charge of aviation on that day and in that area, were promoted.

As you recall, Bush Jr. was in Florida at a grade school the day of the attacks. When told, he did nothing. Didn't leave the school, or even panic. That feels hinky. Why wouldn't he be afraid that he might be targeted?

I don't know. How much proof would it take to believe that someone like Bush and Cheney were a part of this? It's been pointed out that the subsequent legislation of Homeland Security was a financial boon for many of Bush's associates.

Again, I can't say I believe it 100%. What is the point of taking out WTC 7? I also don't believe that the WTC's were demo'd, but it was interesting to read that the NIS did not look for explosives in the analysis. Not at all. It took 411 days for the report to come out, and at that point, the evidence/debris from the buildings had been destroyed.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Tinfoil Hats:
It's because of the specific structure of the building and the way the fire weakened it that it collapses in the manner it does. WTC7 had a particular kind of layout, explained in the article I linked, which caused it to collapse in such a manner. The supports, weakened by the loss of the floors which helped to hold the weight, collapsed inward more or less simultaneously. In that sort of situation, where all the supports are buckling inward, it makes sense it doesn't tip at all. In fact, since that report was published there has been a fair amount of research on how to prevent this in similar-style buildings, which have also ceased to be built due to the danger that fire presents. It wasn't known beforehand that fire could cause a collapse like this, either. They mention that they didn't check for explosives as the building collapsed was pretty evidently caused by fire.

There are loud noises, but they aren't consistent with the kind of noise demolitions would have caused nor were they loud enough. Witnesses farther away but within the range to hear such a noise reported nothing, so it's likely what they heard was something like the generator tanks beneath the building exploding or something to that effect. You also linked the same article that I posted, which I think was a mistake.

It's fun to think about, I guess, but the big reason I don't buy it is I don't think other people involved could keep it a secret. Sure, we have people who talk about it but none of them are government officials. You know the old saying that 'two people can keep a secret as long as one of them is dead'? Someone would have spilled the beans. One of Cheney's aides or someone in the military would have brought this forward eventually. I just don't believe conspiracies like this can function.

I think Bush didn't panic or anything because he didn't want to scare the children. Remember, he was reading a book to I believe a group of kindergartners. Him rushing out and running and all that would have probably terrified them. He was trying to be calm. The other thing is, have you seen how Bush is now? He's a broken man because of the war. He spends his days doing portraits of soldiers who died because of his actions as a form of therapy.

Also, again, why blow up WTC 7? None of the planes we know of would have run into it; the only plane that went down was en route to Capitol Hill (which would have killed plenty of Bush's associates and also caused political nightmares). We have recordings from the people on that plane. If it was never going to be hit, wouldn't blowing it up be needlessly endangering yourself? How would they have even planted bombs strong enough to level the place with no one knowing? Why would they be on a timer and not something that someone had to detonate?

I think, all in all, that it's just too unlikely. It seems far too difficult to orchestrate something like this. Too many moving parts, you could never keep it under wraps. It would've come out at some point, you know? Someone involved could have gone to any news station in the country and spilled the beans, and they would have.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Spoiler:
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It's because of the specific structure of the building and the way the fire weakened it that it collapses in the manner it does.

If they had an engineer who designed the building say this was intended, but I haven't seen that.

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The supports, weakened by the loss of the floors which helped to hold the weight, collapsed inward more or less simultaneously.

The probability of that happening in a fire that is initiated from one side of the building is near zero. It isn't possible for an office fire to simultaneously weaken all the support columns to the same degree at the same time, and then have all the columns collapse at the same time.

If you do some research, you'll see that the temp needed to melt steel is around 1300C. An office fire peaks out at about 900C. That's only enough to weaken the steel. So that means the rate and degree to which the columns are affected is going to be highly variable.

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It wasn't known beforehand that fire could cause a collapse like this, either.

That's because it's never happened. There have been hundreds of office fires since the advent of the high-rise/skyscraper. I have never seen a report of an office fire collapsing an entire steel framed building in its footprint. And lord knows buildings have caught fire and burned hotter than the one in WTC7.

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There are loud noises, but they aren't consistent with the kind of noise demolitions would have caused nor were they loud enough.

That's part myth. Explosions needed to cut through steel columns aren't excessively loud. Thermite burns through steel in seconds and it does not generate loud explosions. In fact, the presence of iron nodules at the WTC7 site is what has convinced a lot of engineers that thermite was used, because you only get those nodules when you melt steel, not when you weaken. Also, shaped charges channel their explosive forces, so they aren't excessively loud unless you're in the direction of the charge. But the idea that people testified about hearing true demolition charges is not a compelling fact for me, so I tend to discount it. Also, I can't tell what is what from a video.

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but the big reason I don't buy it is I don't think other people involved could keep it a secret.

But go look on you tube. There are scores of people claiming to know that it was an inside job. I don't know if they are credible, but it's ironic to think that if any of these people are telling the truth, we're not listening. This is compounded by the fact that you'll have some people who will flat out lie or misrepresent what happens. My favorite line in Men In Black is that if you want people to ignore the truth, give the story to the National Inquirer. LOL. As you may recall, Tommy Jones says it's the best news for their profession.

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I think Bush didn't panic or anything because he didn't want to scare the children.

I don't buy that. Bush Jr. is not the brightest man in the world and he's a little out of touch. I'm more likely to believe Bush had trouble grasping the significance of what was happening.

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He spends his days doing portraits of soldiers who died because of his actions as a form of therapy.

That doesn't exactly disprove that he might be complicit in 9/11 :)

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How would they have even planted bombs strong enough to level the place with no one knowing?

In the main WTC towers, there is actually a LOT of talk about the elevators were blocked off for weeks before the attack and there were armed guards preventing anyone from accessing the elevator shafts. One of Bush's cousins or brothers was a board member or part owner of the company doing the elevator work.

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Also, again, why blow up WTC 7

That question bothers me too. Any possible answers from the rubble are destroyed.

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I think, all in all, that it's just too unlikely. It seems far too difficult to orchestrate something like this. Too many moving parts, you could never keep it under wraps. It would've come out at some point,

you know?

I do. That's exactly my thought process on the matter.. But then I look at all these testimonies from governmental officials and engineers and I am wondering if i am ignoring what is right in front of my face?

I think the reality is that you and i are both imposing our reality on the facts. It's easier for us to believe that something like this isn't possible. Or, more to the point, we both believe if this really happened, then there would be congressional hearings and the news would be talking about it. But guess what? Bush controlled the government and he refused to talk about the investigation beyond the NIS report. In addition, the government only handed over 25% of the documents requested and then it redacted most of those.

If you do enough searching, you realize that there were media members talking about it and asking questions. I just never paid any attention to it at the time.

And here's something else that occurs. I did some research on Stalin back in WWII. The USSER routinely perpetrated public deception and fraud. True, the Russians controlled the press unlike the U.S., but the point is the governments do attempt to hoodwink the public. The rely upon a large percentage of people, undoubtedly like you and I, who have a hard time the government could get away with something so brazen.

Now...do you think there's any truth to Roswell and Area 51?


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Spoiler:
By my (admittedly limited) understand, the reason the building collapses the way it does is because the floors themselves gave way, which is what caused the inward collapse. The floors of that building were partially responsible for holding the weight of that building, and thus when they suddenly collapsed within the structural integrity of the already compromised steel collapsed in the only reasonable direction; inward. They collapsed together because the last thing keeping the building intact--the floors inside--collapsed into one another in rapid succession. If stress was already on those points of connection, when that stress is removed via the floor falling it the supports will then collapse in the direction of that (now removed) stress point.

Plenty of people talk about it, but I guess my point is that someone important would have leaked it. One of Cheney's aides or a senior White House staffer, some high-up military official or perhaps one of Bush's buddies who supposedly would have benefited. There are, by necessity, too many people who could possibly know of that conspiracy for none of them to have stepped forward. One of those people with insider information would have gone forward with it at some point in the last sixteen years. Not only that, the level of secrecy... one paper left on a desk at the wrong time or one overheard phone call destroys you whole plan.

Bush is smarter than people give him credit for. His advisors and Cheney himself just... lied to him a lot. You can say that gives credence to the fact that maybe Cheney was involved and Bush wasn't, but I disagree. If people came out and admitted that people lied to Bush about stuff, I can't believe no one would have done it about 9/11. And if he was involved, I think Bush would have said something by now; he is, very clearly, horrifically traumatized by his decisions and how they impacted the lives of other Americans. I don't think he could keep it a secret. That, or someone with a score to settle or who belonged to the other party would have said something at some point.

Yeah, the USSR manipulated people, but they had so much more control. I guess the biggest thing is that, well, I don't believe the government is that competent. I pretty much refuse to believe that our government could actually physically manage such a thing. Government is so wasteful and inefficient that such precision is beyond them, in my opinion. I'm actually more inclined to believe that the government originally fabricated stories of them perpetrating 9/11 in order to make them seem scarier and more competent than they actually are.

Also, my brother's friend as I said works in demolitions but is a private contractor. If he thinks how it collapsed checks out, I'm inclined to believe him. There's probably stuff about that collapse that we don't understand simply because we aren't trained to.

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Aliens exist. That's just a fact. In an infinite universe, other intelligent life has to exist. In fact, an infinite amount of other intelligent life forms exist. By that logic, some of them must have evolved before us and thus are far more advanced technologically than we are. However, I don't believe they've ever visited Earth, or if they have I don't think we caught them.

It's just so statistically unlikely that aliens like 'the greys' would ever evolve anywhere. Why would intelligent life from another planet look anything like us at all, really? Why would they be bipedal and roughly humanoid? It's far more likely they'd evolve to look much different than us and appear to be utterly... well, alien. Amusingly enough, the Alien movies are far more accurate to what you might theoretically expect to find when it comes to alien life. Again, I also don't believe the government could keep it under wraps anywhere near as well as it did.

However, Area 51 is definitely responsible for UFOs. I just don't think they're alien spacecraft. It's an Air Force base, so it's probably a bunch of crazy s&~! they're testing that people have caught wind of.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

You can't have a conspiranoic conversation without the mad Irish guy:

I will start by saying that I have a strict policy of not mentioning foreign stuff 'unprovocked'. What with wounded feelings, deceased relatives and the usual matter of respect.

That said I made my fair share of research regarding 9/11 and I find the whole attack interesting. The claim, later turned a meme, that jet fuel can't melt steel beams was proved to be fake as the temperatures obtained by igniting the fuel -specially concentrated in a place like the plabe's deposit- could have dealt enough structural damage for the WTC to go down like it did. Which this I establish that I believe the planes did bring down the buildings but bear with me.

How come, as Borax mentioned, no F-14 (correct me if that wasn't the standard combat jet at the age) was stationed and ready to take down the planes? I can understand that the pilots perhaps were already dead and the terrorists indeed piloted them, but air traffic controllers are pretty exhaustive at their job... a non responsive pilot combined with a clear change od route would have sound any alarms and jet's would have been deployed.
And later investigations and media publications showed that the NSA (or the CIA, can't remember) did investigate the terrorists due to suspicions arised by their training and nationality.

So I think the real conspiration lies there. Same as Bush' dad trained Bin Laden for a purpose and later turned rogue with the USA turning a blind eye until he was a menace... either it was a massive f@&! up on the secret service's part or the whole deal was orchestrated to motivate the population's payche to align with the long list of stuff that the USA would later start in the Middle East.
Wars are never liked by the people, unless people feel that some payback and justice are needed.

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Now on a simmilar note, look at the Boston Bombings. Around the dark and strange parts of internet (the least dark of them being 4chan), photographs surfaced of wounded and paramedics after the attack. And I s#*% you not, the same people appeared dressed differently in different situations. Either a lot of twins and triplets worked there or were affected, or some fishy stuff went on. I don't deny the Bombings per se, that would be crazy, but I do think the attack was at a time were antiterrorist campaigns sat at an all time low and needed a boost. Take the suspected terrorists, a pair of teens that weren't the type for that sick thing. During their 'arrest' one of them was gunned down by the police, the other was too wounded to speak there and I don't remember him ever getting out of ICU. Circumstancial evidence like black powder and some sort of manifesto was found at their home.

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And now I want to direct you all to the long list of terrorist attacks happening here in Europe. If you make some research you wilk find that in each and every one of them the Secret Services had investigated the perpetrators but decided that they weren't likely to attack. And I mean each and every terrorist attack, no exception.
So, either no European country has a Secret Service worth s%*~ or there's some shady stuff going on and orders to let the terrorists do their thing.
Casualties range from minimal to average, but the population's impact is so great that Europe, a region that traditionally have hated with a passion any political movement that was even a tad close to fascism/nazism/far right, has seen an increase on right wing and fascist movement support so huge, during the last two years most of the countries' elections have been won by them.
And the antimuslim movements are at an all time high, believe me. Countries like France, whose muslims are mostly third and fourth generation migrants and therefore completely integrated, suffer from it.

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Before speaking of aylliuuums, I want to take everything I said and postulate my personal moral of the story:
Every generation needs a nemesis, a vile enemy, someone to hate with a passion so we stay docile and forget the s&*+ that goes on in town.
Russians are too​ trite for that job anymore. China is trying his best to not be like Russia. North Korea is almost a joke. And in general no country works for that, because if a single one or a federation of them attacked our lands like this the masses wouldn't rest until the NATO attacked.
But islamic terrorists? They have no distinct region of origin that you can target except for the casual 'France/USA/Rusia has bombed an ISIS base in X' news that keep the fire burning. They are our age's boogeyman, we have been told anyone can be one of them.
They are a perfect for our malcontent and hate, and they will for as long as there is need for them.

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Now on the matter of aliens. The universe isn't huge, it's infinite. Which means that there are infinite planets and many chances for a planet to evolve life.
But the chances of said life evolcing to the point of sentience are narrow at best. We aren't the norm, in fact we are strange as f+@& and have gotten to where we are by sheer luck.
There was an anthropology theory regarding civilizations and spacefaring whose name I can't remember, but the sum up would be the following:
Any sentient being race and civilization has to get through a number of points of extinction during their history.
The first or firsts are catastrophic and endemic to their environment and habitat (like the Ice Age and the meteors during the... jurassic? cretacic? my knowledge here is fuzzy at best).
If they manage to adapt and survive through it/them, they become a Class 2 Civilization and have to face the ones caused by their own civilization. Great wars, pandemics and instability (WWI and WWII anyone?).
If they manage to thrive despite them, they have to face the last: overpopulation, lack of food and resources. Is during this point of extinction, theoretically, that the civilization would turn to spacefaring research, population control and/or overplanet farming/mining/stuff. If they'd manage to develop it and survive, they'd become a Class 3 Civilization. That's what is usually meant by post-scarcity societies.

We Earthlings sit comfortably at Class 2. The overpopulation menace seems real but distant, and we yet have to deal with the whole 'Complete Nuclear Obliteration' event.

I'm a spaniard and I'm not that proud of my ancestors. We were great at two things: genocide and mass enslavement. And that's only five centuries of our planet, the aliens could research us and see that no matter the distance and lack of connection... each and every earth civilization have killed without reason, with reason and for sport. We are damn good at it as a whole and, linking to the conspiration tirade I spew, we need only to feel morally obligated to not feel any remorse for it.

So I too think there is, or at least there has been, extraterrestrial beings. But I can't be sure if they all died when still living in caves, they nuked each other out or simply hungered to death. But let's be honest, if they managed to establish themselves in a global peace, with no hunger and scientific advances that would shame us... the second they take a peek at us they'd either turn tail or destroy us before we evolve and destroy them.
We have a history of being bloodthirsty, ruthless bastards.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

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As mentioned, no planes were there in order to take them out due to, amusingly enough, terrorist attack exercises. That's another thing... do you really think they'd be that cheeky? I don't. The US does however have a history of training insurgents to fight on our behalf. Sooner or later, that dice roll was not going to go well for us.

Part of the problem with talking about terrorist attacks and those attackers being investigated is that we as societies tend to believe it's way easier to pick out these sorts of things than they are. For another American example, look at school shootings and how people try to 'profile' the shooter after the fact and fit them into a mold. The fact of the matter is, there's basically no profile for a school shooter other than 'white male'. They try to pin it on video games, on violent media, on being a loner, or on mental illness... but none of those are consistent. However, we still have that sort of ingrained in our culture. After Columbine, tons of 'loner' kids were targeted as potential school shooters just for being outside of normal social circles, which just ostracized them more. Ironically, if that profile were true, that would have made them more likely to be a school shooter. We have the same sort of profile for a terrorist, even if we won't admit it. Most people, culturally, think Muslims (and by that, I really just mean Arabs because people rarely differentiate) are the most likely group to be terrorists. This is despite the fact that, in America, the most likely demographic to commit a terrorist attack is 'straight white Christian male'. We think that we should be able to catch people because they fall into that 'profile'. Popular shows like Criminal Minds don't really help that. Fact of the matter is, criminal profiling is insanely difficult and not very precise. Psychological profiles are so insanely hard to get.

As for the people in the same outfits, are you sure you aren't thinking of the Sandy Hook shooting? That's the only place where that was reported to my knowledge. The big thing with the Boston bombing is that there are two guys who 'are a better match' in the crowd. The guy supposedly had the right model of backpack--you know, because backpacks are unique--and was wearing a hat that corresponding to a private military contractors emblem. Coincidentally, that emblem looks a lot like the Punisher's signature skull. People ignore how easy it would be to hide a backpack somewhere and pick it up later, or swap it, or what have you.

Also, the brother who was not killed by police is still alive, and testified at his trial. He was convicted and put on death row.

Fact of the matter is, tons of people go under investigation and weren't found to be a threat before they killed people or committed some other kind of crime. You have to remember that they likely never actually talk about all the people they catch who do fit a profile. It just isn't good news, comparatively. So, we associate them with their failures rather than successes because failures are more public. That's called availability bias, for those wondering. I believe that's more likely than that any political group could reliably cover up all these attacks.

As legitimately interesting as I find this subject, I would like to get us moving... so Jacob, if you would please? Also, if we could wrap this up before our new players come in, I'd appreciate it. Somehow, I'm not sure this is the right way to set up a welcoming committee.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Spoiler:

I have to say that reading your responses is like reading something I wrote.

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I guess the biggest thing is that, well, I don't believe the government is that competent.

This has been my standard response for the last 15 years or so, but something just occurred to me, referring to it as a "government" conspiracy is probably inaccurate on my part. Something like this isn't orchestrated by the "government" as a whole. It's organized by individuals/entities outside the government and then covered up by a few key people in the government, like the President and the Secretary of Defense.

I saw a news clip of the Bush Jr. after the NIS report had been made available. Bush kept saying that he wasn't going to talk about the "intelligence gathering." In other words, Bush was stonewalling the free press on all levels regarding 9/11 under the auspices of protecting intelligence gathering state secrets and methodologies. I can totally believe that rank and file who might be asked to destroy documents or evidence would buy into that, assuming they had any idea whether the stuff they were doing was even that important or necessary. In other words, when the President starts talking "national security," I can imagine a lot of people are going to take it at face value.

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Plenty of people talk about it, but I guess my point is that someone important would have leaked it.

I've totally subscribed to that philosophy, but when it comes right down to it, that isn't really a scientific or provable conclusion. You and I both believe that something of this magnitude couldn't be contained, but then that's assuming any one person has enough information to truly expose it. If some Air Force Captain is told to schedule his training on X day...and he notices that everyone else is doing the same...and he realizes that something is clearly up...what can he do with that besides leak it to some fringe reporter who is willing to risk his or her career on a 9/11 conspiracy theory?

To put it another way, anyone who knows enough to leak it, would know that doing so is likely to get them killed given the atrocity that said organization had planned out and executed. And since we have no idea of who might have been involved, potential loose ends could have been eliminated shortly after and no one would have thought to connect said person with 9/11. Others may know the truth, or suspect it, but have no way to prove it. Without concrete proof of what was said by who and when, you're just another YouTube video.

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There are, by necessity, too many people who could possibly know of that conspiracy for none of them to have stepped forward.

It's one thing to know of a conspiracy, and it's quite another to be able to prove it to the national public. And it's a level beyond that to be brave enough to do so and see it through. Look at what's going on with Trump. You have high ranking officials who refuse to disclose info in public despite the witch hunt.

We know that at least individuals in the U.S. government have been involved in illegal and unethical practices:

1. Iran - Contra

2. CIA and the Sandanistas and the drugs.

And this is ignoring the conspiracy theories on Pearl Harbor :) I guess I believe it's naive to think that there aren't people in our military-industrial complex that are beyond attempting to control the public through fear. Yeah, sounds like a skit from V for Vendetta, but Homeland Security would never have been allowed if not for 9/11.

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Also, my brother's friend as I said works in demolitions but is a private contractor. If he thinks how it collapsed checks out, I'm inclined to believe him.

I'd love to talk to a structural engineer at some point, but I doubt a room full of structural engineers/architects would all agree on what is possible.

I'll repeat, I don't believe the two main buildings were demolished with explosives. Regarding WTC7, it's impossible to know, isn't it? It's certainly possible the building responded in a way that exposes gaps in the field of engineering.

In any event, it's almost ironic to find your opinion exactly mirroring mine of even a week ago.

Area 51:

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Aliens exist. That's just a fact. In an infinite universe, other intelligent life has to exist. In fact, an infinite amount of other intelligent life forms exist. By that logic, some of them must have evolved before us and thus are far more advanced technologically than we are. However, I don't believe they've ever visited Earth, or if they have I don't think we caught them.

I have to laugh because this is like reading my own exact thoughts on the subject:

Statistically, life on another planet seems a certainty and the fact that such life has found us seems a near improbability. But I would add that any sentient beings that have the ability to locate us in the vastness of the universe and then travel here, would be so far beyond us, it's hard to imagine that they'd even bother with us.

What I find far more plausible is something like Independence Day. Some huge colony of organisms traveling through space, stoping to colonize.

And yet...I saw this awesome documentary about Roswell and the UFO/weather ballon found by the farmer. The show essentially said the farmer brought the object to the local military base and it was reported by the base commander as a UFO...then the story was changed to a weather balloon. Only the guy at the base who saw it, knew what whether balloons looked like. There's this great point in the show where we see a picture of some letter the on-base commander was sending or had sent and people were trying to resolve the words on the letter in hopes of proving that the commander had, in fact, reported it as a UFO.

The show also has reported testimony from a pilot who flew the alien bodies out and there's some discussion about the nurses who assisted with the autopsies. It was done so well, I just ate it up. Good times.

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Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

@ Jacob

Enjoyed reading your post, especially since you're living outside the US.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

Well, I do love reading the global News, gotta be knowledgeable if you want to be a learned person. Or that's what I've been taught!

Regarding the gameplay post, if I understood Jon correctly, my turn should end there (As each retry to set charges would require an aditional turn of action).
I left the part where I sneak out until I know for sure the following: that I need or don't need any more Kn. Explosives rolls to make the vehicles and crates go boom (i.e. this one is enough), that i need or do not need to roll sneak again and if this should be done following any Initiative order or I can keep doing stuff until I give the signal.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

You can keep going. Just remember, a failed Knowledge check means you're doing another Stealth roll. I'll roll when you're done and we'll go from there. I highly suspect they won't see you, though, at least st first.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

Aaaaaand done. Rolled Stealth again, just in case I needed it.

Also, I realized that perhaps the Claymores I placed at the end perhaps required a check too. If that's the case, or placing them after doing all of that is too much of a stretch, please feel free to roll for me or ignore that part as you see fit, just so we put the action back on track.

I also wanted to apologize beforehand if I have done too much, I got a tad excited about getting the explosive spotlight for a while, I must confess.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Oh no, not too much at all.

Now, onto the show!


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Jacob, Quick doesn't increase your Pace, just means you can't draw below a five. Fleet-footed increases your Pace. I think you also have that though, so it's not a big deal.

Both of your wounds are from one attack, so you can soak both of them at once.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Are my edges having any effect?


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

So far, no one has rolled to Unshake so Leadership itself isn't having any effect. Last round Rosa would have been just outside the range of your Edges (it has a range of 5" and I assumed she moved 6") so it didn't benefit her, although it did benefit Gavril; I mistakenly said he was Shaken, but he was not and he didn't roll for it.

Also, I missed it again this round; Jacob should only have 1 Wound. However, the other attacks dealt enough damage even with +1 Toughness that they caused wounds.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Remembered it this time! Saved you a Wound, not too shabby. Remember on your turn, you get a +1 to Spirit rolls to recover from being Shaken as well.

Also Borax, once this fight is over you'll receive an extra Benny next time they reset. Forfeiting a turn for in-character reasons (despite me not calling for a Fear test that could have forced it) was an excellent choice and it felt really fitting in the moment, as did his bit of panic-induced ingenuity. You'll actually have 4 Bennies, so once you spend it it'll be gone, but it gives you an extra in-between points where they refresh.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

My Shaken rolls says Vigor, but I realize that it should be Spirit. I roll the same die for both, so no need to reroll.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Borax, if you manage to Soak both wounds, you also don't drop your weapon. She made a called shot to the arm, so you drop what you're holding. If you don't succeed, make a Strength roll at -2; if you succeed on that, you still take whatever Wounds you failed to soak but keep hold of your weapon.

Grand Lodge

Male
Abilities:
Strength d6 Agility d8 Spirit d6 Smarts d8 Vigor d6
Stats:
Toughness: 5(7) Parry: 5 Pace: 8 Run: d10 Charisma: 0 Bennies: 3/3
Skills::
Fighting d8, Notice d8, Repair d8, Investigation d4, Streetwise d6, Stealth d8, Shooting d8

I'm not sure if it was your intention, but I already hate the mysteriousan with a passion.

It's a bittersweet feeling, I love to hate my enemies. Makes me more engaged when I plot their eventual, explosive filled, bloody demise. Kudos to Jon!

But hey, unless Lena and the defenders kill us, we got ourselves a couple interrogation volunteers! I vote we let Jackalyn do her schtick again, if only because Lena is a bastard that dragged us into this.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Good to know you already hate him, Jacob.

Borax, at this point shooting her with the Arc Thrower would still take a -4 penalty. The shotgun's maximum range with no penalties it 12", which is the total maximum range of the Arc Thrower. You can move 6" in a turn without any sort of penalty, but then you have to draw the weapon (which incurs a -2 penalty). All in all, your minimum penalty with the Arc Thrower is -4. If you have a sidearm on you (if you don't you realistically would, so feel free to say you have a basic one) that would only incur a -2. You could draw the pistol and move in this round, then move in farther next round and draw the Arc Thrower for only a -2 penalty.

Also, you do roll a Wild Die as well for that Strength test, so feel free to roll and see if you keep hold of your weapon.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Out of curiosity, how many times has Lena soaked damaged?


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

... 5? Just went back and double-checked. The only time she has successfully taken a Wound was Jackalyn's first shot. Every other time, she has managed to roll obscenely well, and thus only has 1 Wound. She's by far out of her own Bennies though, and has eaten through half of the ones in the common pool for GM-controlled characters. She can only try and soak a few more times before she's out.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

Is the common pool for the entire adventure start to finish or just the scenario?


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Basically, common pool bennies reset every time your bennies reset. The GM has the same number of common pool bennies as players. GM-controlled Wild Cards (what you guys are, which is why you have a Wild die) only get 2 Bennies but can access the common pool as well. Lena burnt through her bennies and is now using the common pool.


Toughness: 7 (Flak vest: 9) Parry: 6 (Bayonet: 7) Wounds 0/3: Rounds=5| Shooting d10 | Notice d6| Fighting d10 |Survival/tracking d6| Healing d6 | Stealth d6 | STR 6, AGI 10, VIG 8, SMA 8, SPI 8
Weapons:
Desert Eagle (.50) 15/30/60 2d8 1 w8 r7 — AP 2, Semi-Auto

well, I'm here to let you know on behalf of the GMWC union, Lena's dues have just quintupled. And next time the bennies refresh, she gets -2 bennies.


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

I'll make sure to remember that.

Note to Self: Give Lena the Great Luck edge...


Male Human Brawler 8/Bard (Archeologist) 2/Slayer 5
House Rules:

Are people waiting to see if Lena goes down before they continue their actions? I'll roll for her Soak and stuff then, just in case. Let's see how she does...

Vigor; Soak: 1d8 ⇒ 7
Wild: 1d6 ⇒ 5

She takes a Wound, so now she has two. She still has one Benny left.

Next time I update in Gameplay I'll give you an update on Malik.

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