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Robert Downey Jr shares cryptic Avengers Infinity War poster suggesting MCU and MTVU merger
Saw this the other day on Facebook. That's a huge cast, and an interesting move by Marvel. I'm wondering if some of the characters will have just some short scenes, like Punisher, Daredevil, etc. fighting minions of Thanos in New York City.
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Norman Osborne |
Given the ongoing internal drama at Marvel, it's very unlikely we'll se any significant crossovers between the film and TV sides anytime soon.
Really, I don't care which way they eventually go, I'd just like the matter to be resolved. If you are going to constrain the TV shows to fit within the universe created by the films, then two things need to happen: 1) the occasion crossover, whether it is TV characters in a film or film characters on a show; and 2) the constraint should work both ways. The rise in the Inhuman population is one of the most significant events to take place in the MCU...it should have been addressed in Civil War. Hell....it could have aided the plot by giving a lot more reason for the Sokovia Accords to be such a pressing issue. Instead, it was ignored.
That being said, I also wish that Marvel would have the occasional stand-alone film that didn't have any of the constraints of having to take place in the MCU.
Hama |
Given the ongoing internal drama at Marvel, it's very unlikely we'll se any significant crossovers between the film and TV sides anytime soon.
Really, I don't care which way they eventually go, I'd just like the matter to be resolved. If you are going to constrain the TV shows to fit within the universe created by the films, then two things need to happen: 1) the occasion crossover, whether it is TV characters in a film or film characters on a show; and 2) the constraint should work both ways. The rise in the Inhuman population is one of the most significant events to take place in the MCU...it should have been addressed in Civil War. Hell....it could have aided the plot by giving a lot more reason for the Sokovia Accords to be such a pressing issue. Instead, it was ignored.
That being said, I also wish that Marvel would have the occasional stand-alone film that didn't have any of the constraints of having to take place in the MCU.
There is internal drama? Darn, can you elaborate on this?
thejeff |
Psiphyre,
Yeah but not sure it qualifies in my mind as a true Marvel movie. It stands alone sure, but doesn't pay heed to what's come before.
Wouldn't that be true of any "stand-alone film that didn't have any of the constraints of having to take place in the MCU"?
I mean, I guess you could have something that outright contradicted - using a different version of a hero or villain or something.
Norman Osborne |
Norman,
Example of the latter thing you were talking about? Cause I can't think of much that would be a stand alone film in a world of Inhumans, Magic, Gods, Aliens, super science, and other things.
Unless you mean Squirrel Girl.
What I mean is a movie about a Marvel comics character that is NOT set in the MCU, and as such is unrestrained by having to conform to it's canon.
thejeff |
Thomas Seitz wrote:What I mean is a movie about a Marvel comics character that is NOT set in the MCU, and as such is unrestrained by having to conform to it's canon.Norman,
Example of the latter thing you were talking about? Cause I can't think of much that would be a stand alone film in a world of Inhumans, Magic, Gods, Aliens, super science, and other things.
Unless you mean Squirrel Girl.
Is there any real point in that? Do you have such a character or concept in mind?
Norman Osborne |
Norman Osborne wrote:Is there any real point in that? Do you have such a character or concept in mind?Thomas Seitz wrote:What I mean is a movie about a Marvel comics character that is NOT set in the MCU, and as such is unrestrained by having to conform to it's canon.Norman,
Example of the latter thing you were talking about? Cause I can't think of much that would be a stand alone film in a world of Inhumans, Magic, Gods, Aliens, super science, and other things.
Unless you mean Squirrel Girl.
I'd absolutely love to see very accurate adaptations of plenty of comic stories (live-action or animated). Non-MCU films would allow them to use characters that had massive potential but were utterly wasted in the MCU (Baron Wolfgang von Strucker would be a great example...he could have been a great villain, but instead he had a cumulative 30 seconds or so of screen time). I'm not saying the concept of a shared universe is bad, but it does require some sacrifices...especially when most of the movies kill off villains, or make massive changes to characters to plausibly fit into the existing continuity.
Another example....a huge part of Scott Pym's character is guilt over the creation of Ultron, and this has played into nearly all his important stories over the years. In the MCU, not only did not create Ultron, he's also not even a contemporary hero.
Maybe you don't care about Von Strucker or Ant-Man, but as the MCU continues on, there will be more and more divergence. More and more stories will either become unable to be adapted, or will necessitate such massive changes that they will share a name and little else. We've already seen this.....the Civil War film may have had a few themes in common with it's comic namesake, but it's implications don't seem to be nearly as momentous, especially since the Sokovia Accords seemingly only apply to actual members of the Avengers.
Norman Osborne |
His name isn't Scott Pym, it's HENRY/HANK Pym.
Well damn, I knew that. Not sure how or why I typed Scott...that's Ant-Man part deux.
But yeah, Marvel has been pretty wasteful with villains. There are only three so far that haven't been rather forgettable (Loki, Kingpin, and Killgrave), and they seem to mostly be following the comic book movie paradigm of killing the villain off.
What I'd really like to see is Marvel step up their animation direct-to-video game, and emulate DC's success in that area.
Thomas Seitz |
Norman,
Not just wasteful. Completely misunderstanding their characters! I preface what I'm about to say by saying this: Guardians of the Galaxy is great. I loved most everything about it. HOWEVER! Ronan as the villain didn't make as much sense as say, Nebula or even a freaking Skrull like Paibok. I just think James Gunn saw Ronan with his hammer and was like "I need this guy!"
I really think it's a waste since it doesn't really do much to justify the fear people should have the Kree Empire. But then again, what do I know?
Marc Radle |
Hama,
There's rumors floating around that not everything is cozy between Marvel Film producers and Marvel TV producers. But that's just a rumor.
Hardly a rumor. It's been well documented that Marvel president Kevin Feige and Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter hate each other and this feud is the reason why the movie and TV universes rarely cross over. It came to a head during the filming of Civil War. Disney actually restructured Marvel so that Feige now has control of the movies and Perlmutter controls the TV shows. Both now report directly to Disney and have virtually nothing to do with each other any more.
baron arem heshvaun |
You can see the Falcon and Rhodes in the background. Are those bracers on Captain America?
Wakanda tech I would wager.
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