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Zaidel Michigan wrote:
I refer to my previous 'kicking and screaming' post, but I don't know how you guys will bring me back after this, other than godly or DM intervention.

If Monkeygod agrees I'll jump to the next part and fix things up a bit with the party.


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*Grumbles* Paizo went into maintenance when I made my post. Short version

Still here. Still invested. Got sidetracked by the Spyro Fandom sinking its fangs into me, and me sucking at self-discipline.

Will read through the posts and catch up today or tomorrow, 100% guarantee.

Scarab Sages

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F Human Battle Auger 2/Taskshaper 2
Yass wrote:
Also sorry Alyssa that I haven't responded to your post in all these weeks, I hope to get to it soon. =/

You're fine! Real life before game, always.

Yass wrote:
Or I guess the other thing we could do is run an abbreviated version of the game and I could post on my phone on the go, less of a sprawling adventure and I'd have to move things along from the current story but it would be better than nothing.

I'm all for continuing, but I do want to do it right. If you don't think you can do a good job, then maybe we can all take turns running adventures or something. Just an idea.


Male Fae King Oracle 21(Elemental)/Druid 21

Wow,

So I didn't mean I was just gonna abandon the game mid scene, and leave the PCs in a lurch, or just kill every one off and walk away.

I'm quite capable and willing to finish this scene. Beyond that, I am not sure. We'll need to see how it long it takes, and where Yasss is when it comes to posting. Also depends on what the PCs want to do once the combat is over.


Ok, sorry Monkeygod, didn't mean to insult you if I did, just spittballing.

Actually if you guys are cool with the current slow pace then nothing else need change, just don't want to lose your attention and lose anymore players.

Thank you Monkeygod for keeping this game alive in a fun way while I am struggling btw.


Actually you know what? It's time I crank this up to 11! Screw business and time management! I shall post consistently no matter the restraints!

I shall post in the shower! I shall post on the loo! I shall post while doing homework! I shall post eating meals! I shall post changing diapers! I shall post half alseep!

I shall deliver a timely and quality game experience!

Viva le RPG!


Male Advanced Human|HP: 177/177 | AC: 27 (18 Tch, 27 Fl) | CMB: +17, CMD: 34 | F: +18, R: +18, W: 14 | Init: +5 | Perc: +16, SM: +16 Gestalt Godling, (mighty & eldrtich)/10th/MR 1 | Speed 60ft (50ft) | Active conditions: hasted/7 rds., stoneskin 132

Since technically the shadows only did strength damage, does Zaidel wake right up again or does he need additonally healing for that?


Male Archangel of Awesome Paladin of Badassery 20

You're fully healed off all the Str damage. They don't do any normal damage.

Scarab Sages

F Human Battle Auger 2/Taskshaper 2
Yass Queen wrote:

Actually you know what? It's time I crank this up to 11! Screw business and time management! I shall post consistently no matter the restraints!

I shall post in the shower! I shall post on the loo! I shall post while doing homework! I shall post eating meals! I shall post changing diapers! I shall post half alseep!

I shall deliver a timely and quality game experience!

Viva le RPG!

Wohoo!


Taking off for a long weekend, when I get back the postening will begin!


Current HP: -98 | Improved Evasion | Ki Pool: 23 | Greater Blind-Fight | Immune to all diseases, Light Fortification LG Half-Celestial Shabti Monk (Unchained) 20/Expert 1 Max HP: 459 | AC: 57; T: 46; FF: 44 | Init +12 | Fort +28; Ref +29; Will +17 (roll twice) | DR 10/Magic; DR 10/Chaotic | Resist Acid, Cold, Negative Energy, and Elec 10 | SR: 32

Posting this to all my games: Sorry for the lack of posting. For the second time this year, I got the flu, and the internet is out at my house right now (where it has been for the last two days). It should hopefully be resolved by Monday, and if not I'm going to switch ISPs. Please feel free to bot me until I am back up and running, and if I am running your game, I haven't forgotten about you!


Ya know, I kinda find it funny that your all concerned at Zaidel being dead and taken out by the shadows. But he still has his 1/Day Spontaneous Resurrection good to go. Nameless canonically stepped in and stopped that Malith from cutting him down and all that.

On a side note. Do we have the name Kammella mentioned anywhere else? I can't seem to recall that name in the RPG so far... and do I get a knowledge check to know who that name might be?


Male Advanced Human|HP: 177/177 | AC: 27 (18 Tch, 27 Fl) | CMB: +17, CMD: 34 | F: +18, R: +18, W: 14 | Init: +5 | Perc: +16, SM: +16 Gestalt Godling, (mighty & eldrtich)/10th/MR 1 | Speed 60ft (50ft) | Active conditions: hasted/7 rds., stoneskin 132

You are mistaken, Fury. Everything that happened so far in the campaign is still Day One for Zaidel. He used his Spontaenous Resurrection,a nd besides the first use had a +5 racial modifier to his Cool check! I think I speak for the whole team (such as it is), that we deserve a break (from a least fighting) for the rest of the day.


Zaidel Michigan wrote:
You are mistaken, Fury. Everything that happened so far in the campaign is still Day One for Zaidel. He used his Spontaenous Resurrection,a nd besides the first use had a +5 racial modifier to his Cool check! I think I speak for the whole team (such as it is), that we deserve a break (from a least fighting) for the rest of the day.

But you only used the Spontaneous Resurrection because you were cut down by a demon right? But that's when Nameless revealed himself, by deflecting that blow and causing the demons to NOPE the f!$$ out of there.


Male Archangel of Awesome Paladin of Badassery 20

Ya know, I kinda find it funny how both Nameless and you are concerned with things happening in this game,

Yet aren't even really here to play it.

You have a grand total of 23 posts as Nameless. Aside from players who are no longer here, that is by far the lowest as all the rest of us have well over 100.

Heck, freakin Lucas, who hasn't posted since Jan 29th, has two more posts than you.

Maybe you should be less worried about things that don't actually pertain to you, and focus more on having even a semi respectable posting rate.

Perhaps, should you maintain one, people might remember the things you do more often.


... I have but one reply to that.

How far behind am I in terms of IC word count?

If I am significant behind in that regard. Then I will concede that I mayhaps should be more active in the game.

However, considering the fact that my posts are typically significantly longer than the average post I have seen so far. AND the specific way I am actually playing The Nameless Warrior and what really want to explore as an RPer in this game. I rather doubt that I am that far behind in terms of word-count, nor have I gone against the goals I am interested in for this campaign.

Sides. I'm sure Yasss has quite a bit of fun cooking for Nameless to really get me more active when the time comes.


Male Archangel of Awesome Paladin of Badassery 20

Dude, if all you wanted to do was write long winded inner monologue while hanging around the PCs like some Edward wanna be,

You could just go write on your own. You haven't actually done anything in this game since you've joined, other some straight up deus ex machina b$~+@@+%.

If you don't want to play the game, and contribute to the story, then why did you bother to sign up, and why are you still here?

As to word count, who freakin cares?!? This isn't some writing contest, it's a play by post game, with a group of other players and PCs. If your word count is in the millions, does it matter if 99.9% of them have nothing to do with the rest of the PCs? You're basically writing your own novel for Nameless.


Edward wannabe? Really? There's like several hundred historical figures and fictions characters who have that name. It's one thing to be rude and insulting to a fellow player for no reason other than the fact you don't think I'm posting enough. It's another thing to actually fail at your attempts to insult me.

You say that Nameless hasn't contributed to the game or story so far. Save for his introduction, which I admit, hasn't been as meaningful as I hoped. But what you don't seem to get is that's the entire f$*+ing point of his character! Nameless is basically designed to be Saitama but without the desire to be a Hero. A super-power character who can obliterate most threats in a single strike without ever even getting serious with his attacks, and has found himself incredibly bored and frustrated because he doesn't have any challenge left in life. Because of this, he's an incredibly passive and inactive character unless certain situations or scenarios actually force his hand.

If people here interact with Nameless. I'm going to be more than happy to interact with them in turn. Perhaps, in the future, he might actually grow attached to a character or two and thus start taking a more active role in the affairs. But until then, he, and subsequently myself, am going play the game in a reactive and not proactive fashion.

Just because its a different way of playing than the norm. Doesn't mean its a bad or wrong way of playing. As for Word Count? That's very important. Word count normally reflects the time and effort that goes into a character and the development they go through. It helps the others understand their thought process, and by reading back on how they' reacted in the past can more clearly see when they are starting to develop as a character.

Making posts such as (no examples from this RP) 'Looks Left. Looks Right. "Let's do this." '. Isn't exactly great in incentivising people to play. No matter how fascinating your character might actually be.


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Male Advanced Human|HP: 177/177 | AC: 27 (18 Tch, 27 Fl) | CMB: +17, CMD: 34 | F: +18, R: +18, W: 14 | Init: +5 | Perc: +16, SM: +16 Gestalt Godling, (mighty & eldrtich)/10th/MR 1 | Speed 60ft (50ft) | Active conditions: hasted/7 rds., stoneskin 132

The Waskally and Fury sit down at a bar. The Waskally orders two beers, sliding one over to Fury.
"Listen, Fury", TheWaskally began. "It's totally cool that you want to play aloof characters. I'm currently playing one in another campaign, but I hope it's temporary because this character is still figuring out the new team dynamic. I get it! And I hear you when it hard to be engaged in a game, but ultimately: it's a two-way street. It's important, particularly in pbp that you show the GM that you wish to be engaged. I recommend if you haven't posted anything in 2-3 days, post something. Even if it's just:"

The Nameless Warrior checks his cuticles, finding the whole discussion with the fey queen tedious.

-or-

The Nameless Warrior looks at the surrounding street vendor wares; looking for anything of interest.

TheWaskally sips his beer to clear his dry throat. "Also, this is a team effort. Zaidel specifically asked The Nameless Warrior to go and help V.K. because he was in danger. With no posts in a long time, Zaidel assumed you just stood still while the godling ran into help the avian god. Right now, Zaidel doesn't think well of The Nameless Warrior, and might call The Warrior out on it after the battle. But you could also argue that The Stranger (a enemy specifically created to engage you, because the giant worm wasn't interesting enough) delayed you."
TheWaskally stands up and finishes his beer. "Look", said TheWaskally at the seated Fury, "I'm heading back to Gameplay after I put Zaidel back on. All I'm saying is post more. Let the GM and players known you're still playing. In case you haven't seen, we're getting our asses handed to us and we could use a Nameless Warrior right now. Al-Lammar could use The Nameless Warrior right now."
With that TheWaskally heads back to Makeup to play Zaidel once more.


While I couldn't have expressed it as eloquently as TheWaskally did, I certainly agree with his overall assessment. Nameless, you can't go expecting for us to fall over ourselves to include you in the story when you don't make much attempt to involve yourself. What I said before still stands, both in and out of game. In story terms V.K. is very devoted to the party that Nameless hasn't tried at all to become part of. In out of game terms, if you want us to include you in the story, you need to allow yourself to be included.


Male Archangel of Awesome Paladin of Badassery 20

Literally, the only reason you've gotten away with this is because it's a play by post.

If you pulled this s*$* in my real life game, I would have kicked you out months ago.

Also, for quite some time, all you did was hide from every one. How in teh Nine Hells is anybody supposed to interact with you if they didn't even know you were there!!!

Liriiestil was the only one who could spot you, cuz Nameless is a freakin 30th level PC. And, he didn't care, because you gave him no reason to. All you did was creep. But, you weren't a threat, either, so he didn't see any reason to call you out.

Lastly, this game started with 10 PCs, Nameless included. That means you had 9 other PCs to attempt to build *anything* resembling of a relationship.

But, you chose to creepily hide. Then, you finally showed up to pull you Deus Ex Machina crap, but you don't post enough for any reasonable follow up.

Let's say Zaidel was overwhelmed with happiness thanks to you saving his life, and got into a convo with you.

With your crappy ass posting rate, you two would probably still be in the woods, where the Balor jumped us.

And the thing is, this is your norm. You had similar awful posting habits in Storyteller Shadow's Greyhawk game, even disappearing for an entire month, with zero explanation.

I'm so done with Nameless, I might kill him off just so I don't need to deal with him any longer....

Scarab Sages

F Human Battle Auger 2/Taskshaper 2

Can I but in here?

Voice of Awesomeness, MonkeyGod, whatever- politely, you have no reason to talk.

You have, consistently, ignored players that you didn't feel like interacting with. So, there's that.

Now, I don't want to get into a big discussion here, because, frankly, this may be my favorite game here. But, if you have a problem with someone, there's a way to go about it. There's a polite way to ask someone to post more, not mocking them or cursing at them. What you just did- is not.

"I'm so done with Nameless, I might kill him off just so I don't need to deal with him any longer...."- This is borderline bullying, and truly, I have no issue with reporting you to the Paizo boards if I see more posts like this.

Politely, BACK OFF.

Thank you.


Male Archangel of Awesome Paladin of Badassery 20
Alyssa Mirai wrote:

Can I but in here?

Voice of Awesomeness, MonkeyGod, whatever- politely, you have no reason to talk.

You have, consistently, ignored players that you didn't feel like interacting with. So, there's that.

Now, I don't want to get into a big discussion here, because, frankly, this may be my favorite game here. But, if you have a problem with someone, there's a way to go about it. There's a polite way to ask someone to post more, not mocking them or cursing at them. What you just did- is not.

"I'm so done with Nameless, I might kill him off just so I don't need to deal with him any longer...."- This is borderline bullying, and truly, I have no issue with reporting you to the Paizo boards if I see more posts like this.

Politely, BACK OFF.

Thank you.

You keep saying that I ignored people I didn't feel like interacting with, which, is interesting, since I haven't played my PC in quite some time.

Meanwhile, I absolutely recall you flat out ignoring me when we were having that discussion about killing bad people. So, et tu Brutus?

Also, *IF* I did ignore somebody it was NOT intentional. I have been trying my hardest to keep up any conversations with my fellow PCs.

Now, if this was while I've been GMing, well then I apologize, I didn't exactly want to begin my GM run when I did, but I stepped up to help Yasss.

All that said, Nameless is intentionally avoiding/ignoring the PCs. As Zaidel said, he called him out, to help Vulture King, but, I guess he was too busy not posting to pay attention to that.

Scarab Sages

F Human Battle Auger 2/Taskshaper 2
Monkeygod wrote:

You keep saying that I ignored people I didn't feel like interacting with, which, is interesting, since I haven't played my PC in quite some time.

Meanwhile, I absolutely recall you flat out ignoring me when we were having that discussion about killing bad people. So, et tu Brutus?

Touche.

My point remains the same- next time you want to have a discussion with someone, try a little tact. That's all I'll say on the matter.


Male Archangel of Awesome Paladin of Badassery 20

I stupdily assumed Zaidel was going to go and post in game based on the end of his post here,

And I just remembered that he just had posted in game and that I was waiting for no reason.

Sorry about that, I will get replies up tomorrow, including something for Alyssa.

However, it's 5am for me, and I need sleep!!


Or.

You know.

People can make mistakes?

I mean. Just saying. That's a possibility there. That the reason that Nameless didn't get involved in the fight with VK was because I messed up? I think my reasoning at the time was Z wasn't saying 'Hey, can you help?' but was instead was saying 'Hey, you here to help?'. Which isn't the best reasoning regardless.

I see there being nothing wrong with my lower post rate, but higher quality posts. Through yes, in other campaigns, I do struggle to be consistent. It's a flaw of mine that I'm trying to work on. And I will defend my choice to play Nameless as strong as he is, and with his personality choice, to the death. But I can admit that I have fumbled in the exicution in some areas.

Still, does mean that Z or VK can call Nameless out on his inaction afterwards, that's something I'll happily reply to. Silver lining there.

Also. Why are you b&%+*ing at Nameless being a level 30 superwarrior, whilst VK is a f!!~ing god? Ya know, someone with literal Dues Ex Machina abilities?


Alyssa Mirai wrote:
My point remains the same- next time you want to have a discussion with someone, try a little tact. That's all I'll say on the matter.

I fully agree, if there's going to be a debate either keep it civil or take it to PMs.


Male Fae King Oracle 21(Elemental)/Druid 21

Because, the entire crux of your whining, both in and out of character is a direct result of the level of character you're playing.

Your stealth mod is +54, which means your result ranges from 55-74.

My perception is a 40, giving me a 41-61, while VK has a 39, which is a 40-59.

I only saw you cuz I got lucky or you were unlucky, but most of the time, you'll evade notice.

However, my biggest problem has been Nameless, and to a lesser extent you yourself,

Complaining that nobody has formed any sort of bond with him. Nobody has role played with you. You're this awesome, legendary badass, but it seems like we PCs don't care.

Except, maybe it's more like 'Hey, that dude was literally unknown to us, then showed up, and saved the day, which is cool, and maybe it would be nice to RP with him, but man, he like never posts, and there's all this other stuff going on, so nevermind, I'll just go with the group, sorry spooky sneaky man."

Because that's exactly how Lir thinks of Nameless/Fury. You have a really cool character, and I would love to RP with you, but you barely post, and when you do, you don't do anything that warrants him interacting.

Think of this in a real life setting: We're all attending the same party.

Lir is the super popular guy, getting all the attention, but giving it all back in spades, so everyone enjoys his presence.

Zaidel is the really nerdy kid, but he's also one of those nerds who loves to work out, and does martial arts, and wrestling, so he's not the skinny dork, but rather the badass who's also into video games.

Vulture King is the oldest one there, looking out for everyone, making sure nobody gets too hammered, but if they do, he takes care of them, and scares off anybody tryin to mess with the drunk kid.

Alyssa is one of the few girls, but she fits right in, and man is she sassy if you cross her. She's also the one organizing all the cool games and activities.

Kei is kinda the odd ball loner, but he's super nice, and sweet, and ultra polite, so the rest of the party goers let him hang out, and it turns out he's pretty cool, just in a different way than they are used to.

Finally, there's Nameless(Yea, only using the PCs still active).

He's the dude who sits in the corner, preferably in the shadows, watching everybody and not saying a word. Nobody really knows or remembers he's there. However, everybody else decides to go outside to do something, and they don't invite Nameless, cuz nobody knows he's there, so he blows up and gets pissed and demands to know why nobody's talked to him.

And, that's a problem.


Liriiestil wrote:
Because, the entire crux of your whining,

... But I'm not whining? At all? Anywhere? All I did was note that the same action from Nameless was missed twice now? And I don't really mind all that much, as mistakes happen?

I mean, yeah. I probably could up my posting consistency, and I probably could do more to actually be part of the group. Especially as Nameless has sooooooo much history lurking in the shadows that it should hopefully be incredibly fun to play around with when it starts coming to light.

But, I'm not complaining about it at all. If I gave that impression, I'm sorry I did. Especially as I can't debate the fact that I haven't been the best on engaging on my end.


Would people mind if I wait until the gunslinger actually attacks until making my post? Because I'm currently not able to think of too much to do in response.


We'll I'm back and ready to post. On another note is there currently an out of game issue I need to step in on or do you feel your conflict is well in hand?


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Male Advanced Human|HP: 177/177 | AC: 27 (18 Tch, 27 Fl) | CMB: +17, CMD: 34 | F: +18, R: +18, W: 14 | Init: +5 | Perc: +16, SM: +16 Gestalt Godling, (mighty & eldrtich)/10th/MR 1 | Speed 60ft (50ft) | Active conditions: hasted/7 rds., stoneskin 132

No. We addressed our concerns to Fury. We'll see how things progress.


Fury of the Tempest wrote:


On a side note. Do we have the name Kammella mentioned anywhere else? I can't seem to recall that name in the RPG so far... and do I get a knowledge check to know who that name might be?

Kammella has been mentioned at bit and she had a post of her own at one point but she is an up and coming character that the party will get quite involved with shortly. At the moment she is a virtual unknown to the multiverse at large, but I can drop a knowledge check if you like for rumors. Otherwise we can play it out more natural and RPey.


Yasss Queen wrote:
Kammella has been mentioned at bit and she had a post of her own at one point but she is an up and coming character that the party will get quite involved with shortly. At the moment she is a virtual unknown to the multiverse at large, but I can drop a knowledge check if you like for rumors. Otherwise we can play it out more natural and RPey.

Hmmm... whilst it might be tempting to go for a Knowledge Check if she isn't well known to the multiverse at large. I think it would actually make for a better RP for Nameless to actually be as clueless as everyone else when get to meet her. Especially when she's sending lackeys out for Nameless' blood.

What about Roland King through? Same result?


Roland is much better known, you may roll knowledge on him if you wish.


Male Fae King Oracle 21(Elemental)/Druid 21

It's a good thing I always hit preview and scroll up to check if anybody else replied before I post, or I would missed Alyssa's question, and had a very out of place comment, lol


Neat! I'm going to guess that it's Knowledge, Local?

Knowledge: 1d20 + 49 ⇒ (15) + 49 = 64


You know all available knowledge about Roland: A bounty hunter and mankiller of legendary skill Roland has been stalking this world for as long as anyone can remember. Said to be immortal by the locals this is in fact partially true.

Though his bounty hunting exploits are numerous in this modern age he is in fact immeasurably ancient, having been the lover and friend of the Seer that founded the Apogee Society in ancient times.

When that mighty civilization fell he was struck by the horrific Blackfire curse, the details of this doom are unknown but it is said he will walk the world until the day the Blackfire consumes his soul.

Honorable, if a bit humorless, Roland is well known as a reliable hired gun that gets the job done, even if his prices are a bit outrageous...


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... So Mythic Improved Vital Strike is kinda, slightly... broken.


After non-lethal damage exceeds a character's maximum hp it turns into lethal damage, unfortunately for Roland =D


Would Careful Stab be of use at this moment in time to ensure that I don't accidentally end up killing Roland? Or if not, I believe that Golden Legion’s Stayed Blade would allow me to not kill Roland if I don't want to.

I'm kinda indecisive about it honestly. On the one hand, not knowing his own strength, and accidentally obliterating foes that he had just intended to knock out, does very much fit Nameless' forte... on the other hand, is meant to be so damn good, that he's the type of guy to hit someone that damn hard... but not actually kill them.

... Then again. We do have a god around here. Reviving him shouldn't be too much of an issue, right? And I could always pick up GLSB later, to reflect the fact that my character has better learned how to control his incredible strength.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

How in the Nine Hells do you have well over 1k added to your damage? Is it all from Mythic Vital Strike??


Monkeygod wrote:
How in the Nine Hells do you have well over 1k added to your damage? Is it all from Mythic Vital Strike??

Well, not all off it, various different Mythic, Epic and 3PP sources came together in order to give me a damage bonus of 89 (at the time of writing). It's simply that Mythic Vital Strike took that 89 damage, and multiplied it by a factor of 16.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Thought so,

As such, I would like to institute the following 'fix' from Legendary Games:

Replace the rules text for the Mythic Vital
Strike feat with the following: Whenever you use Vital Strike,
Improved Vital Strike, or Greater Vital Strike, multiply the Strength
bonus, magic bonus, and other bonuses that would normally be multiplied
on a critical hit by 2 if you are using Vital Strike, by 3 if you are using Improved Vital Strike, or by 4 if you are using Greater Vital Strike.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll leave that up to Yasss whenever or not that fix is implemented. Sure, it would be a pretty significant nerf to Nameless' DPS potential... but even the nerfed version lets him easily do 350+ damage with a single attack, so it's not like its going to make him incredibly weak for it.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Yea,

Well, it's either that, or I start bringing out s&!+ that literally nobody else can hurt and that would roflstomp the whole party,

Or we implement a fix from a company made up of people who worked on the Mythic Adventures book from Paizo, and who are famous for their awesome Mythic work....

Just remember, I have access to books that you can't play with, lol


Monkeygod wrote:
Just remember, I have access to books that you can't play with, lol

Are you sure about that?


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Do you really wanna challenge me to kill Nameless??


Male Human (advanced) Godling

HEY! We are now working as a team! Anymore fighting between you two and I will b!+<h-slap both of you back to The Age of Legends!! GET ME?!


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

It's not fighting, it's simply stating facts.

Even without factoring in Nameless, the party power disparity is huge. Zaidel and Alyssa are both rather strong, but something like the nightcrawler is mostly out of their league.

Meanwhile, Kei is easily holding his own vs it, and has dealt a fair amount of damage.

Add in somebody like Nameless, *especially* with him able to deal well over 1400+ damage in a single hit, and that disparity widens massively.

Should I want to actually challenge him, I would more or less need to create a custom enemy just for him.

Were I to do so, it would easily wreck the rest of the PCs.

Meaning, I would either need to single out Nameless, which I am not overly keen on, or murderize every one else.

In Mythic Hero's Handbook, there's an entire section about fixing some of the crap wrong with the base system created by Paizo.

Which, the authors of the Handbook know first hand, because many(if not all) of them worked on Mythic Adventures as well.

This is our first time running into one of the said problems: Stacking multipliers.

The book address Foe-Biting, Mythic Power Attack, Mythic Vital Strike, and Unlimited Buffing.

I see no problem with implementing the various fixes, as they come up, should they be necessary. In this instance, multiplying all of Nameless' base damage by 16 is quite insane.

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