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SO sorry that I haven't posted, guys! A friend of mine logged out of my account, so when I went back to my bookmarked page of campaigns, nothing was showing up as new. I'll post immediately.


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

we should sacrifice this 'friend' to the Dark Prince for such an affront!

jk, glad you figured it out.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

With friends like that...

... who needs enemies?


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

Question, re the Sin of Wrath. What are your folks opinion on when it would activate? The crit, ability damage, precision damage, and bleed are fairly straight forwards. I'm more curious about the "killing blow" thing. Would this mean doing enough damage to kill someone outright, a coup de grace, or something a little simpler, such as taking someone below 0 hp?

The former would be more difficult, but I already see that, at least for the latter, it might need to be modified to mention the level of the opponent in some fashion, to prevent the bag full of chickens approach. Like Envy's min CR=level-1.

Note: I did not include the Sin bonus in my last attack because of my questions above.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Sorry about absence...

Had an interview yesterday... thought as it was a short professional one I'd be back later on so said nothing. Only then an e-mail invited me to another one today with a raft of stuff to prepare for it...

Now back, had a nap 'cos I was knackered & now have romped back online to attend to you lot :)

As for your question, Tragen - the definition of Wrath is 'to destroy without thought' (according to Open Design's Monsters of Sin: Wrath anyway, a series I quite like when introducing the 7 deadly sins into a game!). Hence something as calculating as a coup-de-grace wouldn't be included. But let's hear what the rest of you think. This is our game after all, so whilst as DM I may have to make the call, I'd like it to be one that we all agree with...


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

IMHO and from what I read; the ' doing enough damage to kill someone outright' option is what would activate it.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

I agree with Malak. It doesn't specify that the target has to be the same CR or anything like that. So, any time when there is enough damage to kill someone outright. (to -10 hp). We could even go around killing our unconscious victims and you'd still receive the bonus. (Wow, we really are evil. :))


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

OK. Dealing that amount of damage may be tough this early on, so taking an extra wack at an unconscious/dying foe may be required at times, lol. I don't mind not using the coup de grace, since it takes so much time, and I'd need that time to move towards his next victim. Tragen doesn't do much in the way of crits, precision, bleed or ability damage, yet.

For the penalty, I'm running with: if the combat hasn't started, the penalty won't occur, but if combat stops for a parley, bam! it hits. Make sense? I don't want to have to start a combat with every potential enemy we meet (although I think Tragen would be on board with ultimately killing off everyone in the prison, and a little chatter to distract them as we move into position to strike can't hurt).

EDIT: Oh and killing someone outright is to -CON rather than -10 now, so it might be easier for unhealthy folks (so pass me the bagful of diseased pawns). It'll also do great with undead (since they pop at 0), but then I would hope we'd be allying with such vile things.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Good to know. I need to look over the spells available (sometimes Megan even lets us use other 3rd edition sources. :P) and see if there are any good ones that do Con damage. Although, it might be better for our resident magus to research, since I intend to mainly be a social butterfly.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

OK. Shall we go with 'damage sufficient to kill outright' as the trigger, then?

As for 3rd party sources, I'm open to them but would like you to tell me what you want to use first. In the unlikely event I do not have it lurking on my hard drive, I'll ask you to quote the relevant portion before making any ruling.


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

Tragen - yah it might be difficult to get that Kill often now but later you should have no problems.

Also, Malak has the Evil Domain which grants this power - Touch of Evil (Sp): You can cause a creature to become sickened as a melee touch attack. Creatures sickened by your touch count as good for the purposes of spells with the evil descriptor. This ability lasts for a number of rounds equal to 1/2 your cleric level (minimum 1). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Coupled with your Smite ability will be dangerous for those non-good enemies. It will take some coordination though.


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

That description mentions "good for the purposes of spells with the evil descriptor" so wouldn't quite work out like that.

I'm not that concerned anyhow. I just wanted the clarification so I don't add the bonus at the wrong time. As you mentioned, I'll probably not have many problems later.

- By 5th level AP, I'll be able to add the Keen property to a magic weapon (which, coupled with the +1 crit confirm crime trait, should improve the chances of the crit activation of the Sin)
- By 8th level AP, I'll be able to add the Wounding property (bleed effect activation of the Sin) to a magic weapon.
- I've been bouncing back and forth on whether or not to dip Oracle of Bones for the negative energy bleed effect (which would work on the AP's touch of corruption and/or channel neg. ability). Currently leaning towards not though, so as to keep gaining AP levels.
- Death Knell is a nice first level AP spell that can kill off pesky enemies who like to die slowly (kill outright activation of the Sin).
- If or when we become undead, some undead have ability damaging attacks (although my ideal plan for Tragen, should he survive long enough, is to go into Graveknight which doesn't have such an attack).
- etc.


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

Damn! I didnt notice that it was just for 'spells'...hmm...

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

I have been thinking, and despite being mid-escape I have decided that it is appropriate for you lot to level up. Please do so as a background task, we can carry on exploring the gaol at the same time.

Hit points I do as roll OR take one-half of your hit die, but you must decide before rolling what you want to do.

Those of you who have played with me before know that I don't hand out XP, I just say PING! every so often & let the whole group level up. Keeps things nice and simple and lets us get on with playing the game!


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

HP: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12

+1 Base Attack
+1 Fort & +1 Will
+1 0 level spell & +1 1 level spell

6 skill points

+1 Bluff, +1 Diplomacy, Knowledge/History +1, Knowledge/Religion +1, Perception +1, Sense Motive +1


HP 17/17, AC 18/ 14/ 14, Fort +5, Ref +4, Will +1, CMD 17(18) Damphir Cad 2

Fighter (Cad) 2

BAB: +1
HP:: 1d10 + 1 + 1 + 12 ⇒ (3) + 1 + 1 + 12 = 17
Saves: +1 fort
Bonus Feat [Exotic Weapon Proficiency; Dueling Sword]
Dirty Maneuvers (Ex) +1

Skills go up by +1.

Ouch.. Bad luck on the hp roll.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Grrr. :) Choices, choices. Stay a sorcerer or multiclass? :P

I'll stay a sorcerer. It will be interesting at any rate. :)

Taking half HD for hp.

Also, everyone remember that we get +2 skill points per level (if that's still agreeable with you Megan) from the original character creation rules. (Otherwise, Shalastar would be rather stupid.)

+1 BAB
+1 Will Save
+1 1st level spell per day
+1 0 level spell known (mage hand)

Skills: 1+2+1

Bluff
Diplomacy
Stealth +2


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

Is that half round down, half round up, or half round down on even levels and half round up on odd levels, or something else?

+1 BAB
+1 Fort & Will
Touch of Corruption
Unholy Resilience
5 skill ranks: Craft (armor), Intimidate, Perception, Ride, Stealth


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Most characters have an even-numbered hit die. So halfing it isn't that difficult. :P d6=3, d8=4, d10=5, d12=6. :)

This was not intended in a snarky tone. No offense intended.


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

So half round down is what you're saying.

Half would have a .5 in it. For example: a d6 has possible values of: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. You'll note there are two numbers to the left of the 3 and three numbers to the right. The true half-way point would be in between the 3 and 4 so that there were three numbers above and three numbers below. Another way to look at it is by calculating the average, sum them all and divide by 6= 21/6 = 3.5

Half of 6 may be 3, but half of a d6 is 3.5


male Elf Bladebound Magus, Level 3 -1 con -1 dex

I thought long and hard about investing in stealth, since it seemed like it would be a good idea. Alas, the fact that Sotha is a strength magus, combined with the lack of stealth in class made it a loosing proposition, so I went with Vanish instead.

I took half HD for hp
+1 BAB
+1 Fort and Will
Spellstrike
+1 cantrip and level one spell per day
+2 spells known (Vanish and Shield)
+7 skill ranks (Climb, Intimidate, Knowledge (Local) +2, Knowledge History, Linguistics (Infernal), Perception)

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

I shall be kind: half round up :)

And yes, you may retain the +2 skill points per level. Look, you're bad guys. With the forces of good arrayed against you, you need every edge you can get!


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

Sweet! I didn't know about the bonus ranks before.

added ranks to the following - +1 Intimidate, +1 Knowledge/Nobility, + 1Perception, +1 Spellcraft


Male Human Scroll Scoundrel (Rogue) |16/22 hp|AC 18, T 14, FF 14|Fort+2 Ref+7 Will+0|Init. +4|Perc. +7|

HP: 1d8 + 11 + 2 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 11 + 2 + 1 = 22 Nice!

Added one skill rank to each of the following (the modifiers take into account armor check penalty): Acrobatics +7, Bluff +10, Diplomacy +8, Disable Device +7, Disguise +8, Escape Artist +7, Intimidate, Kn: Local +8, Kn: Nobility +8, Linguistics +9, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Sleight of Hand +7, Stealth +7,

+1 BAB
Reflex Save increases by +1
Gains Evasion and Fast Talker Class abilities


Female Dwarf Forgemistress 2

Hit Points: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8

+1 BAB
+1 Fort and Will
+1 0th level spell
+1 1st level spell
+1 Appraise, Knowledge (history), Knowledge (nobility), Knowledge (religion), Linguistics, Perception, Spellcraft

New Rune: Featherlight


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male Elf Bladebound Magus, Level 3 -1 con -1 dex

I think Targi has it wrong. I think contentedness is what she's feeling right now, not happy. Happy would be pulling that ring off the finger of someone she killed.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

lol.... :)


HP 17/17, AC 18/ 14/ 14, Fort +5, Ref +4, Will +1, CMD 17(18) Damphir Cad 2

Hey guys. A heads up from me here.

I'll be moving this summer, end of July most probably, so my internet might get hectic during that time but bigger news; I just got accepted into Reykjavik University where I'll be studying for a BSc in Computer Science for the next three years, starting august 19th. I don't know how that will impact my schedule or my ability to play play-by-post, time will have to tell.


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

Congrats on the University acceptance Jack. Good luck! Hopefully you'll have time to keep gaming but understandable if you dont.


male Elf Bladebound Magus, Level 3 -1 con -1 dex

Good job. I understand what you mean, I recently started back to school for a Bachelor's in Computer Science as well, and it can be taxing on the free time. If you are anything like me, don't let the math get you down. The only time I've ever felt anything but a burning hatred for Calculus so far is the few times that it actually looked like computer science.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Wonderful news! Even better if you can still bob by here to play...

Is this place a haven of Computer Scientists or something? I am trying to get back into school to learn how to teach it...


male Elf Bladebound Magus, Level 3 -1 con -1 dex

Well, there is always that stereotype that says the sorts of folks that play a game like Pathfinder are the same sort of nerds that would have been proclaiming the superiority of Mac OS 7, or teaching themselves Fortran just because, though I've been surprised to discover that the demographics of my computer science class don't bear out that notion, especially with regards to the number and attractiveness of the girls in the class. Though I am in the entry level class right now, so it's possible that some culling will occur.

In answer to your question, I have no idea, though I can't help but wonder if it has to do with the fact that the users on this board tend to be older than most online communities I've been a part of. Actually, I don't know if that's true either, but people here seem quicker to offer their age, mostly in relation to how long they've been playing.


Male Human Scroll Scoundrel (Rogue) |16/22 hp|AC 18, T 14, FF 14|Fort+2 Ref+7 Will+0|Init. +4|Perc. +7|

Haha, far as I can tell people from all walks of life play on here. I'm an actor myself.


HP 17/17, AC 18/ 14/ 14, Fort +5, Ref +4, Will +1, CMD 17(18) Damphir Cad 2

I'm sure Todin has it right, I'm gaming with a houston PD detective here f.ex. and I'm a professional chef myself, though I'm looking to school myself out of the kitchen.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Interesting Todin, where do you act? Stage/Screen? Anything I might have seen you in?

Developer

Congratulations, Jack.

My home group consists of a graphic designer, a teacher/lawyer, a shipping professional, a retail manager, a systems analyst, an entomologist, and an archaeologist/game developer. A few others who have been part of that group include a pastry chef (formerly a martial arts instructor) and an IT technician. When I organized Pathfinder Society games in the Southeast, I was quite amazed by the wide variety of professions and background represented.

We come from all walks, and I find gaming is all the more interesting for that variety.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Me - started off as an academic botanist, switched trades after the doctoral work to a computer programmer, got into this web-thingy early, was a college webmaster then moved into teaching at community college level, now trying to get the qualifications to teach in schools.

Local roleplayers do everything from managing a swimming pool complex to stocktaking, welding, teaching, astronomy, computing, logistics... you name it, someone probably did it at some time.

By the way, I love the way the party is coming sort-of together yet still maintaining their wicked and selfish ways! Keep it up.


Male Human Scroll Scoundrel (Rogue) |16/22 hp|AC 18, T 14, FF 14|Fort+2 Ref+7 Will+0|Init. +4|Perc. +7|
Shalastar Lerin wrote:
Interesting Todin, where do you act? Stage/Screen? Anything I might have seen you in?

Stage, mostly, and a few student films. And highly doubtful, as I'm making my professional debut this summer with a Shakespeare company in New England.


HP 17/17, AC 18/ 14/ 14, Fort +5, Ref +4, Will +1, CMD 17(18) Damphir Cad 2

Sorry guys, I've got to much on my plate. I need to bow out here.


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

@Megan: I've been looking into the new FMG archetypes (like Malak's Unholy Barrister). I noticed one for the anti-paladin: Lord of Darkness. I'm thinking about maybe going that route. Since the changes start at level 3, I figured it should be fairly seamless. Is that OK?

@Jack: Sorry to see you go. We warned you about drinking on the job. I guess your character ended up drinking himself to death, lol.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Awe... bye, Jack. It was nice having you for a while.

If we recruit again, lets wait until after we're out of the prison. I think it would be easier.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Tragen, of course you may take that route if you fancy it.

Jack, sorry to lose you. Do you want to go completely or be written out in such a way that you could come back if things change for you?

Shalastar, that sounds sensible. There isn't anywhere else you lot haven't been that could contain any more convicts for you to gather up!


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

Thanks, it's definitely under consideration. Although I lose the ability to remove fear immunity up close (like vs. those nasty paladins), the +4 Intimidate with the small possibility of a command (on everyone but the paladins and other immunes) is kinda cool.

Oh, I tend not to post much on the weekends anyhow, but it's even less likely this long weekend, as I have family over.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Megan? Hope you're alright. We were waiting to hear if anything interesting awaited us in the dining room, kitchen, or outside. :)

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Job interview this morning... then fell asleep :)


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

Note: I'll be up at the cottage from tonight (after 4 or so pm EST) to Sunday afternoon. There's no internet up there so I'll likely be incommunicado for that period. If I'm lucky, I'll have some cell reception, so I might try to at least keep up with things (posting ain't easy on the phone, so no guarantees of that) in the interim.

At some point, it might be an idea to open up a discussion on expected posting frequency, notifications of absenses, etc. I'm super excited about this adventure path, and I want it to continue.


Male Human Cleric 3 - Unholy Barrister

Enjoy your trip Tragen!

And I couldn't agree more about establishing some posting expectations and such to keep the continuity rolling.


Male Fetchling Sorcerer of Lust 3: 10/10 (13) hitpoints; 2 Con dmg.

Yes, I think Megan's been out for some other job interviews. I have her as DM for a Curse of the Crimson Throne AP. But hopefully she'll be back in the swing of things soon enough. :)

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

I'm here...

Next interview is on Thursday 6 June. Also VERY busy with ENnies judging for the next couple of weeks.


    Angelkin Purifier 5
HP 31/50 {effects: none} | AC 18 Tch 12 FF 16 | F +3, R +3, W +3 | Init +2 | darkvision, perc +4
Dailies:
Alter Self 1/1, Channel Positive Energy 3/6, Sacred Scourge 4/6
Spells:
1st: 6/6, 2nd: 3/4

I'm less concerned about Megan's posting. She's doing a great job. Good luck on the interview.

What frequency is preferable? EDIT: I wouldn't want to commit to more than once a day. Work can get busy for me and prevent me from posting much.

Regardless of the frequency that is settled upon, we should notify folks when we'll be away, so that Megan can bot us or we can fade into the background while we're gone, so that we don't end up waiting for posts. If Megan needs to take some time (interviews or whatever) we can just RP a bit, if the situation warrants, or wait for her expected return, if not (e.g. mid-combat). Or even chat in here to discuss our plans for our characters or something.

Is Targi still around? I've noticed John's (the player/developer) posting elsewhere fairly recently. Has he dropped out or perhaps he hasn't been getting updates?

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