I know of a necromancer that slayed a god like dragon, animated it's corpse into an undead, and called it fluffy. He was arguably the most powerful and cunning villain of his universe. A prime example that seriousness is not proportional to ability. xP
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As to party conflict, I pretty much prefer the round about methods if it's really unavoidable. You have no excuse to hold back on healing wounds on a good day, but removing major curses and conditions cost coin. If your not in favor with the priest you better have a fat wallet, otherwise why would they waste the resources. Or why would anyone want to loan you the resources. Pure jerks have no friends or allies and that's a bad place to be when fortune kicks you in the lower regions.
Edwin, yes, please drop your background into your profile including the fact that you hail from Hillsfar originally.
I have no problem with PC versus PC combat. However, I would suggest that all PC combat be non-lethal by default without mutual consent.
I've not seen PvP work here on the boards. I'd say heated debate but no fighting. IN fact, I'd prefer to run multiple factions than have PC spill each others blood...
Leaving the possibility of PvP open is something of a cornerstone of Evil games though (though it rarely comes about)
True but I think THAT works better Table Top, I can send you the links to the threads where I've done it, it wasn't pretty...
Im pretty well set against pvp in general but i am curious Shadow. why do you think pvp works better at a table than in pbp?
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Im pretty well set against pvp in general but i am curious Shadow. why do you think pvp works better at a table than in pbp?
People can read body language and have full discussions if they feel something is pissing them off. Writing often does not convey the same message as speaking, especially speaking in person.
Gaming with a group at the Table you don't know and handling PvP I think would be much the same as on the boards.
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I will board the 'Rather not have PvP but if it comes to it may thw odds favor me'.
Vlad prefers having allies because that means body shields, buffs, healing and manpower. He really isn't a jerk, quite the opposite, but he isn't a paladin or another goody two shoes so if he is crossed and the treason outweights the traitor's utility... Well, that act will probably start a long chain of events that hopefully ends without a traitor.
For example, let's say Dorn crosses Vlad. Instead of going pants on head retarded and attacking him I'd probably try to frame him for a major crime, bribe some guards to get him beaten twice a day and once he is set to be executed, bribe other guards so he gets to be the one doling out punishment. That will be the Bastard Style.
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while true, personally I feel like a more important bit is getting to know your fellow players and what they consider generally acceptable and being open with each other and accepting whatever the boundries are
if you guys don't want any backstabbing at all that's fine
if you want all backstabbing to occur with out of character permission, that's fine
if you only want backstabbing that happens outside of combat, that's fine
if you want a less restrictive sort of thing with the only rule being
"try not to actually be a dick" that's fine
the important part is knowing ahead of time and that the DM has final veto
Well, Suni isn't evil. He won't try to backstab you or anything. Infact the worst he'll do is steal your gold then use it to pay for his nightly pleasures.
After all, any day he doesn't earn at least 10gp/Have some fun for an hour he get a hangover the next morning.
The only thing disappointing here is that none of you are beautiful women :P
And with potions of alter self, anything is possible. ;)
Well, to be honest, Suni is a womaniser. Although he is bisexual, he prefers to keep that to himself. And honestly he wouldn't go for you :P he likes his elves.
Also, would my Carnal attraction trait apply to my lore (Black market)?
I have never been involved in PVP on these boards. The closest was when a PC got mad at mine for doing something they considered "theirs" and got all huffy about it.
That said, as a PC Dorn has zero interest in betrayal and such. He finds it a waste of time and effort without gain. If someone is not useful then he just ignores them unless they become a threat. Then he acts accordingly. By that I mean he gets rid of them with overwhelming force, not a very half measure sort. But just insulting him is never going to force his hand, just annoy him. In which case he gets others to do things rather then himself.
For example if Vlad annoys Dorn. Vlad will suddenly find everything cost at least double for him. Guards will no longer give him access easily and start strip searching him at every gate. Private company will suddenly avoid him as rumors of him having crouch mites make the rounds. Vlad will find himself to have a very difficult life indeed for some time. That's the merchants way. ;P
But seriously, I doubt we will ever get beyond a few arguments and dirty looks. Which is fine, we don't need to like each other. Just tolerate and work with each other for our own interest. You know the traditional bad guy system. :)
P.S. Talk to Dorn about the local brothels. He is a healthy young man after all, he knows all the girls/places that won't try to kill/steal from you.
No need, I have a huge bonus on finding that already. You need poison, Alcohol, corpses? Just ask this guy.
Also, can I apply a Rouge archetype to the Unchained version? So long as it doesn't replace anything that doesn't exist?
Great, I was thinking of going for the Kitsune trickster then. Rather than the Counterfeit mage, however that sorta gets rid of my major trapping abilities.
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So Dorn, do we agree (and the party if they like to) on a 'No dicking over the rest' treaty? In fact I'm willing to upgrade that to the 'Combining the Merchant and Bastard Styles against common enemies' treaty.
Regarding to brothels, I am torn. On one hand Vlad would totally go for it given a vast amount of money and a huge ego in need of a boost... On the other hand I think he is enough of a megalomaniac to highly regard the conquest part of secual encounters, highly enough to see as cheap paying for it.
I guess I'll discover it the moment someone proposes a huge party at the finest brothel.
Also, can I apply a Rouge archetype to the Unchained version? So long as it doesn't replace anything that doesn't exist?
Yes.
This is going to be an interesting party.
Say dread, if you're going to drop a mythic rank. Do you know when that might be around in regard to levels?
I'd rather avoid PVP if possible, and if it came to it (characters seriously vying against one another that it came to blows or assassination) I'd be sure to discuss it in the group first.
Disagreement is another thing entirely, and is pretty normal. Even good-aligned parties will have people who disagree on the best way to go about doing something.
Backstabbing is an issue. If someone works to get Pox into an unfavorable position, I'm not going to have my character acquiesce and go quietly just because that would avoid conflict. He's going to do whatever it takes to protect himself. So I think we have to be careful about how we set up certain circumstances to begin with so that it stays at, say, disagreement, and doesn't go to fighting.
Ultimately I think we can work together. A few rough patches are to be expected.
ETA: Ninjaed by several posts. I'm certainly willing to agree to what was discussed above.
Pox I would say when.
Let's just say sooner than later, we're going to bum into a little "theological difference".
Don't worry if I didn't get to you yet, the Mirrormanes' are working their way around the room ;-0)
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One thing I've learned over the years is that adventuring parties, specially evil ones, need either common goals or a link that 'forces' them to work together.
Without that link or goal it is harder to move things forward in an orderly manner, mostly because each of us would probably want to do a different thing.
Hell, even if we all were backstabbing jerks -and from the last posts I gather we are not- that goal or link would contain the backstabbing and scheming towards the enemies of our group. Truth be told, the only difference between a good team and an evil team is the methods they are willing to use to get to their final objectives.
And that's why I'd rather have us be like the Brotherhood of Mutants instead of some weird Game of Thrones' shady alliance... Together we achieve much more than alone.
Now, who wanna be my Mystique? Paging Suni, this is a role you were born for!
Pox I would say when.
Let's just say sooner than later, we're going to bum into a little "theological difference".
Yes, for sure but even if the group splits in two over it, you'll all find yourselves in the same place! Serendipity!
One thing I've learned over the years is that adventuring parties, specially evil ones, need either common goals or a link that 'forces' them to work together.
That's why I made it a Zhentil Keep Lawful Evil campaign with a focus on the Gods. :-)
This is going to be an interesting party.
Say dread, if you're going to drop a mythic rank. Do you know when that might be around in regard to levels?
I may drop the first around 8th level.
The second around 15th level.
The last post 20th (if I feel the need to).
So 2 to 3 Mythic Tiers.
*becomes chaotic evil soon*
It's not my choice, will of the gods and such. Who am I bit a humble half-janni to question their will?
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One thing I've learned over the years is that adventuring parties, specially evil ones, need either common goals or a link that 'forces' them to work together.That's why I made it a Zhentil Keep Lawful Evil campaign with a focus on the Gods. :-)
i was not aware of the godly focus when I was recruited and put my character's deities down as Tiamet and Sharres
Is that an issue?
My character was raised by a dragon and taught by a cleric of tiamat, so not a problem for me.
One thing I've learned over the years is that adventuring parties, specially evil ones, need either common goals or a link that 'forces' them to work together.That's why I made it a Zhentil Keep Lawful Evil campaign with a focus on the Gods. :-)i was not aware of the godly focus when I was recruited and put my character's deities down as Tiamet and Sharres
Is that an issue?
Nope. There are plenty of Bainites present!
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Now, who wanna be my Mystique? Paging Suni, this is a role you were born for!
In good time, Although at this time I can also become a Fox rather than just a human...
And I also worship Mask... Who I believe is killed during the time of troubles and later resurrected? After pretty much the worst time of FR History. I mean... I Donno. He's still worshiped.... Ah, the sundering brought him back!
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Yes, for sure but even if the group splits in two over it, you'll all find yourselves in the same place! Serendipity!Pox I would say when.
Let's just say sooner than later, we're going to bum into a little "theological difference".
I actually have the character in another game based on Marrow/Spyke
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Now, who wanna be my Mystique? Paging Suni, this is a role you were born for!
In good time, Although at this time I can also become a Fox rather than just a human...
And I also worship Mask... Who I believe is killed during the time of troubles and later resurrected? After pretty much the worst time of FR History. I mean... I Donno. He's still worshiped.... Ah, the sundering brought him back!
He did not die was just hiding.
As I said before, if you work for me Vlad their are plenty of rewards for doing a good job. :)
Jeez I take a little break and the post start flying. xD
P.S. Dorn worships Azuth and Oghma, Mystra is to restrictive in this age and more so in the future for Dorn's taste. Not to mention worshiping her gets you killed in his home town so yeah.
No theological issues for me so far. Kyorruel is not very religious, which I guess is the closest you can be to an atheist in the FR.
No theological issues for me so far. Kyorruel is not very religious, which I guess is the closest you can be to an atheist in the FR.
Keep in mind that NOT worshipping any God makes you faithless in FR and thus unretrievable upon death. Just a heads up ;-)
Feel free to stab at the Spy too Kyo, this is sort of the Bainite/Zhentil Keep version of roasting marsh mallows ;-)
To be faithless is worse than death.
I shouldn't have compared him to an atheist. Was a poor choice of words. What o meant was that he doesn't pray exclusively to any one god but rather he venerates the gods who fit his ideals. For gameplay purposes ill designate one as the main source of his prayers though.
And no I wasn't actually aware that's how it worked.
I shouldn't have compared him to an atheist. Was a poor choice of words. What o meant was that he doesn't pray exclusively to any one god but rather he venerates the gods who fit his ideals. For gameplay purposes ill designate one as the main source of his prayers though.
And no I wasn't actually aware that's how it worked.
Yep a weird rule but I like it so I keep it.
I'm actually in the middle of walking home. I missed my train stop because I was absorbed with reading the barrage of posts I missed while at school. So I'm just about to finish a 6.5 km walk from the next town over. Ill be posting in the next 15 minutes. Just have to get home and take a few minutes to cool off.
I was able to post a quick question while walking but didn't want to stop for a gameplay post.
I'm actually in the middle of walking home. I missed my train stop because I was absorbed with reading the barrage of posts I missed while at school. So I'm just about to finish a 6.5 km walk from the next town over. Ill be posting in the next 15 minutes. Just have to get home and take a few minutes to cool off.
I was able to post a quick question while walking but didn't want to stop for a gameplay post.
You are the only player I have with their priorities straight! In an ideal world, game should come first!
Post is up and Kyorruel's racism begins!!! Yay!!!