hogarth |
If Chisora is out and DM does not want to run her, since she is part rogue, she could sneak out of the mine and bring the elevator to the surface to hide our presence here and go report to Allustan or something like that. Just a thought.
Vug is certainly going to return to the surface after she rests (alone, if necessary). As far as missile weapons go, three javelins aren't cutting it for her, as you may have noticed. :-)
I don't think we particularly need a rogue -- the only real benefit is the ability to disarm magical traps.
Vug's HP roll (my least favourite part of leveling up...): 1d8 ⇒ 3
Tom -- can Vug take the feat Extra Discovery from the Advanced Player's Guide? (It gives you an extra Discovery as per the Alchemist class feature.)
Lucendar |
DM, need your ruling on something:
Feat-wise, I am saving up for the Gloves of Dex to meet the 15 Dex requirement for the feats I want to take (Double Slice and 2-Weapon Defense). Can I take the feat and use it only when I meet the 15 Dex requirement or I can't take it until 5th level (my next feat) since I currently don't have 15 Dex?
Reading rage, I already get +2 on Will Saves while raging, so Iron Will seems redundant.
Lucendar |
Here is a list of all the loot (except mundane items of limited value.
Full plate +1
10 Potions of Cure Light Wounds
4 Potions of Shield of Faith
Potion of Barkskin
Potion of Bull’s Strength
Potion of Protection from Arrows
Scroll: Dispel Magic (divine)
Scroll: Spiritual Weapon
Scroll: Bull’s Strength
Ring of Protection +1
Pearl of Power (1st level)
Magic item disbursement:
3 scrolls should all go to FriarValgrim will make a petition for Ring of Protection as main combatant
Valgrim would like Potion of Bull's Strength as well
The Cure Light Wounds should be split among the 5 remaining players (2 each)
Please chime in!
Lucendar |
We need to find a mine cart or something to stock all the armors and other valuables we found inside. DM, is there an overturned cart somewhere?
By the way, who has Filge's syringes?
I know Vug wants/needs to leave but realistically, we've just invaded the cultists' complex, we're not going to be able to leave, sell the stuff in town and return and sneak back in. If Vug leaves, I guess she will have to sneak out with Chisora and then find a way to sneak back in.
hogarth |
By the way, who has Filge's syringes?
Vug has the syringe.
I know Vug wants/needs to leave but realistically, we've just invaded the cultists' complex, we're not going to be able to leave, sell the stuff in town and return and sneak back in. If Vug leaves, I guess she will have to sneak out with Chisora and then find a way to sneak back in.
She was planning to use a formula of Disguise Self to disguise herself as Balabar Smenk. If anyone asks what she's doing there, she'll tell him to mind his own damn business.
I think the time for being sneaky has pretty much passed, hasn't it? The corpses and blood stains littered around the lift pretty much have that shot to hell. :-)
Black Tom |
Let's see.
Extra Discovery is fine (as is generally anything from the APG).
No, you can't take a feat if you don't meet the prequisites.
I will try to post the handouts (the high priest's notes and stuff) when I get home, together with a writeup of the rooms you've explored.
Vug's plan sounds good, but remember that Smenk isn't exactly on friendly terms with the cult. The mine owner is Ragnolin Dourstone, a dwarf. I'll have to read up on the details. I just thought I'd let you level up before we proceed.
hogarth |
Okay, I reread some of the thread and I think I've got things straight. Vug's plan would be to disguise herself as Dourstone (not Smenk) and claim that anyone else who wants to come along is one of her bodyguards (as well as telling them to mind their own damn business, perhaps).
Then we might have to fight or sneak our way back into the mine, I suppose.
Lucendar |
The scrolls are yours, Friar. Note that clerics don't have the heavy armor proficiency anymore so you will get -6 to attack rolls wearing the full plate, unless you spend a feat or just cast spells and buff. And I'd rather you take the Selective Channeling feat, so you stop healing the enemies when you Channel! ;-)
Mark Thomas 66 RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16 |
Lucendar |
That sentence just made me twitch. Are you suggesting character pland or telling him what to create?
Didn't you see the wink? I was being sarcastic. He can make whatever he wants. Oh and Friar, can you benefit from a 2nd Pearl of Power? If yes, you should take that as well. Neither the bard nor the sorceror can use it.
Mark Thomas 66 RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16 |
Lucendar |
Here is a list of all the loot (except mundane items of limited value.
Magic item disbursement (update):
3 scrolls + 2 Cure LW + Pearl of Power - FriarRing of Protection +1, Pot. Bull's Str, Pot Shield of Faith + 2 CLW - Valgrim
2 CLW + Pot Protection from Arrows + Pot Barkskin - Vug
2 CLW + 2 Shield of Faith - Bubba
2 CLW + 1 Shield of Faith - Vulcan
Is this ok? We sell the full plate +1 and other stuff and divide the rest of loot when we have a chance.
Friar Feres |
Oh and Friar, can you benefit from a 2nd Pearl of Power? If yes, you should take that as well. Neither the bard nor the sorceror can use it.
Yes, if neither Bubba or Vulcan can use or want the Pearl, I'd be happy to take it. The last one came in handy!
Also, if no one else wants the MW light crossbow, I could use that as well - currently don't have a ranged weapon. Although if someone has a regular light crossbow that they'd like to switch out for the MW one, I'd be happy to take the regular one. Thanks!
Black Tom |
I seem to remember something about flash being away in October, but I couldn't find it when i browsed the thread. This is what i suggest: we'll have Chisora tag along for now as level 2 and flash gets to level her up when he resurfaces. If anybody cares to run her please do, or else I'll DMPC her.
Lucendar |
What's so hard to understand. We weren't planning on staying weeks, just a few hours till you came back. Totally defensible room with limited access and a balcony. So you'd rather do the "Yes, I'm Ragnolin, just giving these 5 guys a tour, don't ask any questions bit." That seems more unreasonable to me, but whatever, it worked.
DM, just let us know what the resale value of this loot is (Valgrim took a MW greataxe and MW morningstar and Feres the MW crossbow):
8 Rusted full plate (value 100 gp each)
2 Half-plate
Full plate +1
4 MW Greataxe
6 Composite longbow (+2)
2 MW Morningstar
Blade of silver ceremonial dagger (50 gp)
Golden necklace (100 gp)
Silver ring with emeralds (200 gp)
Golden chalice (250 gp)
Silvered dagger with jewelled hilt (150 gp)
Fist-sized bust of dwarf wearing gem-studded crown (2400 gp)
Blood-red ruby (800 gp)
*EDIT* Add a jeweled bracer worth 1000 gp to list
Lucendar |
Ah, ok.
8 Rusted full plate (value 100 gp each) = 800
2 Half-plate = 600
Full plate +1 = 1325
4 MW Greataxe = 640
6 Composite longbow (+2) = 900
2 MW Morningstar = 308
Blade of silver ceremonial dagger (50 gp)
Golden necklace (100 gp)
Silver ring with emeralds (200 gp)
Golden chalice (250 gp)
Silvered dagger with jewelled hilt (150 gp)
Fist-sized bust of dwarf wearing gem-studded crown (2400 gp)
Blood-red ruby (800 gp)
Jeweled bracer (1000 gp)
Total: 9523 + 125 + 20 pp + 200 = 10,048
Divided by 6: 1674 gp each
hogarth |
What's so hard to understand. We weren't planning on staying weeks, just a few hours till you came back. Totally defensible room with limited access and a balcony. So you'd rather do the "Yes, I'm Ragnolin, just giving these 5 guys a tour, don't ask any questions bit." That seems more unreasonable to me, but whatever, it worked.
I just don't understand how Valgrim can be so sure that no one is going to come down that hall in the next 8 hours; isn't that enough time to expect a change of guards? Or if someone does come and sees that the guards are gone, I don't see how the group will be able to fight their way out.
If I heard a story about bank robbers breaking into a vault on Saturday night and then deciding to take a nap until Sunday morning, I'd submit that story to "America's Dumbest Criminals". But to each his own. :-)
Black Tom |
Valgrim asks Bubba to drop by Allustan's while he's in town and leave him 1300gp from his share for the Gloves of Dex +2 (that should complete the 2000gp price we had bargained for).
That is actually the price for him to start making the items. You still have to pay the standard 4000 gp for them.
Lucendar |
That is actually the price for him to start making the items. You still have to pay the standard 4000 gp for them.
Market Value of Gloves of Dex +2 is 4000gp. If someone is making them, it only costs them 2000 gp. That's what I thought he was charging me, the creation costs. If he's charging me MV for the item anyway so he can get a 2000 gp profit, then Valgrim will cancel the deal and use the 2000 gp for something else.
Black Tom |
Black Tom wrote:That is actually the price for him to start making the items. You still have to pay the standard 4000 gp for them.Market Value of Gloves of Dex +2 is 4000gp. If someone is making them, it only costs them 2000 gp. That's what I thought he was charging me, the creation costs. If he's charging me MV for the item anyway so he can get a 2000 gp profit, then Valgrim will cancel the deal and use the 2000 gp for something else.
OK.
Black Tom |
Black Tom wrote:That is actually the price for him to start making the items. You still have to pay the standard 4000 gp for them.Market Value of Gloves of Dex +2 is 4000gp. If someone is making them, it only costs them 2000 gp. That's what I thought he was charging me, the creation costs. If he's charging me MV for the item anyway so he can get a 2000 gp profit, then Valgrim will cancel the deal and use the 2000 gp for something else.
OK.
Lucendar |
Concerning you all: I don't want to deny you the fun of all the new options, so I will give you the opportunity to retcon your characters as needed. All I ask is that you keep the general flavor of the character - I think you know what I mean. Also I haven't had time to check everything (but what I have seen looks balanced), so I reserve the right to veto any changes. That said, you may swap feats or class abilities if you feel that it fits your character. Preferably we'll implement the changes next time you level up (or just anytime when you're resting). I want to do everybody at the same time, so if you're not making any retroactive changes, please let me know.
Is this policy still in effect? I wanted to know if he could switch his ranger combat style to the 2-handed weapon style listed in the APG. If not, that is fine also.
Black Tom |
Black Tom wrote:Concerning you all: I don't want to deny you the fun of all the new options, so I will give you the opportunity to retcon your characters as needed. All I ask is that you keep the general flavor of the character - I think you know what I mean. Also I haven't had time to check everything (but what I have seen looks balanced), so I reserve the right to veto any changes. That said, you may swap feats or class abilities if you feel that it fits your character. Preferably we'll implement the changes next time you level up (or just anytime when you're resting). I want to do everybody at the same time, so if you're not making any retroactive changes, please let me know.Is this policy still in effect? I wanted to know if he could switch his ranger combat style to the 2-handed weapon style listed in the APG. If not, that is fine also.
Looks like an excellent opportunity to implement the policy. What will his bonus feat be?
Black Tom |
Loving the options and feats in the APG. Ideally, I would like to swap my 1st level feat for Steel Soul, take Power Attack as 2nd level combat style, and have taken Cleave for 3rd level feat. Let me know if this is is possible.
Yeah, go for it.