Flynnvas Merryweather |
Guys just as a heads up, I'll be going skiing for five days from Thursday of next week and I expect my posting to be extremely limited.
Lilith Sylvari |
Where are you going this year? I think I recall you went last year too.
I am going to Colorado mid February.
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Ok guys, heading off shortly. Back to Bulgaria for the fourth ski season in a row. Ive been to places with better skiing but for the price it's just a no-brainer.
So I'll try to post over the next few days.
Lilith Sylvari |
I'd like to hear more about it later = maybe in a PM. Even see pics. I have always wanted to try skiing in Europe. It would be interesting to compare prices and experience. Have a blast and do not break a leg.
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Yeah of course. Well to give you an example of price, this trip is costing:
Private pick up and transfer from Sofia airport
Private apartment
Half board (evening meals) in the hotel next door
Use of the hotel gym and swimming pool
Ski pass for 5 days
Ski tuition for 4 hours per day for 5 days
All ski equipment hire
That costs €432 per person or £325 or $468. Ive been lucky enough to ski in France and Switzerland and the resorts I've been to have hosted Winter Olympics on the past so are incredible. But the cost is also incredible lol
Happy to tell you all about it when I get back
Flynnvas Merryweather |
I know, it's crazy. Every year I think they make a mistake
Flynnvas Merryweather |
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It's very different to the movie. But both are good in their own ways
Lenneth Barlow |
Jeebus Flynn...you and Skyfall are probably the scariest thing I've seen from a PC in a PbP so far, haha! Second probably would've been the Evangelist Cleric in my old Razor Coast game; Feather domain for a roc-like companion and Rulership variant channeling. Oh and the Flagbearer feat. Not quite as much damage output, but plenty enough and mega-support/control options!
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Yeah the mounted combat feats, combined with a flyer and a Lance and power attack are absurd when it comes to damage output. I'm really pleased with this build for what I set out to do with it which was basically make a mobile rail cannon - one hit kills. Because Sky is medium size and flyer the traditional limitations on mounted characters doesn't apply either.
Next level my favoured enemy bonus increases to +4 against undead which means I would be something like overall +14 to hit (unlikely to miss certainly mindless undead) and rolling 3d6+48
In fact, I've been meaning to speak to Fiendish about this in case I've created a bit of a monster on a synthesist summoner level of unbalance :/
Flynnvas Merryweather |
A x5 Lance/spirited charge crit is game over. Cavaliers who get all the mounted feats can also add their level x5 as damage In a challenge. Craziness
Lilith Sylvari |
Lilith is incensed. These people cut arms off of their own people and eat them. She is about to rain stone down on all of them.
Lilith Sylvari |
I am traveling starting tomorrow morning for the next 8 days - Ski Trip to Colorado (Happy dance!!!). Please bot me if you need to to keep things running. I will check in as time and internet are available.
I have no solutions to this problem but Lilith is against leaving an armed camp behind that might continue to prey on their own weak and/or people that might be wandering by. Her thoughts on the matter is simply that its better to die as a "human" than live as a monster.
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Melo, I don't know what you think about trying the Enrichment effect of Plant Growth on the poisoned land? Maybe it'll help things grow again.
Lachen Anborian |
Glad you enjoyed it.
Not always easy to find the just measure, in humor. You have to be careful not to overdo it, especially when you enter the "rude&crude" kinky side of things.
But I tried to bring a softer side in Lachen too, to show some kind emotions, to balance my nasty twist on words.
But hey, after burning cannibals alive, we got to let some steam out...
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Ok apologies in advance for Flynn's attitude but I honestly can't separate player and character frustration at the moment.
I don't think I am describing clearly enough for some of the NPCs to understand that not fighting the Whispering Way is pointless!
There was literally an army of thousands of undead that turned up and took the CASTLE we were living in. With defence then seemingly impossible and feeding large groups just as difficult because the land is poisoned I can't see that we are doing anything than competing in a race against time.
Either we, and people like us, face up to the Whispering Way or the entire world dies a slow death.
We might fail, in fact I think it is likely. But both I as a player and Flynn as a character would prefer to try rather than just scrabbling around for a few more days of survival. Like I said to Hawk, he might live ten years and have kids - only to see those children later devoured by zombies. Who the Hell wants that?
And as for feeling sorry for this bunch of cannibalistic murderers, who had ample opportunity to surrender, I'm sorry but that attitude just doesn't compute.
[rant]Over[/rant]
What I will say is that I love that this game is giving me a real emotional response, albeit a lot of anger right now lol. So very well done Fiendish :)
GM Fiendish |
Hi Flynn!
First off, thanks, conflict is the heart of all drama so glad you are engaged with the story :)
So, I think it of paramount importance that I confirm you are describing things well enough to get your point across. Let's face it, Flynn's logic is nigh-unassailable. Dealing with the source of the problem is the only long-term solution. But putting that logic aside, that doesn't mean that everyone you meet will believe that, want to attempt it or even think it possible.
In the case of Hawk, he believes it's the right thing to do, and may even intend to do it in the future, but right now he doesn't want to be a part of the party. Yes even though it means his own chances of survival are smaller, yes even though the chance of succeeding against the cult on his own versus with the party are smaller.
This is because the principles he still clings to were not upheld by the party's actions, and he isn't in a mental place where his principles would be eroded out of necessity to adapt.
In the case of the NPCs you interact with, they all have individual morale and happiness sliding scales. Each NPC has a different personality, values different things, and reacts differently to events. Some are 'easier going' and 'lower maintenance' than others, but they all have one thing in common, their opinions of your actions matter greatly to their morale and happiness.
For instance Hawk is a good man at heart, he doesn't like letting people down and even with the world as it is he tries to do the right thing, even if it means decreasing his own chance of survival. He would give his last food to a starving child he met on the road. He was happy to defend the group, but became uncomfortable when the group got aggressive rather than seeking a peaceful solution. When peace was achieved and the party again initiated hostility, even though the party justified it to themselves, it became too much. It's akin to going on a quiet pub crawl with some friends of friends, and finding yourself walking home with strangers at 1 am and they've all decided to break in to a house and vandalise the place. He might not have left the group then, just retreated in to himself. But because Lachen had said he was leaving, he took that opportunity to get away. Sel of course had her own reasons for going with them both.
Tali was *not* a good woman at heart. She was a survivor who was loyal to those who she realised gave her the best chance of surviving. She would not have balked at sacrificing one member of the group to ensure the survival of the rest, and would have no second thoughts at wiping out anyone not on her side. If she were here instead of Hawk, she wouldn't have batted an eyelid and would now be happily looting bodies and shouting at hut doors alongside Flynn.
What I'm trying to say is don't worry about it, Flynn is entitled to his anger that others can't or won't see the world the way he does!
Lenneth Barlow |
Yes, this last little segment has really upped the drama and tension and has been really enjoyable (from a player perspective) to participate in! Still kinda mulling over my next gameplay post since I'm trying to decide just how Lenn will react to all of this. I can definitely say that she's not sorry that they came calling at Whitecliff, but she does have some doubts about how the last few minutes have turned out.
And I'll miss the character of Lachen, foul-mouth and all. LE, I hope you'll turn back up with another character at some point because you're entertaining to play with!
Flynnvas Merryweather |
I totally get it, and whilst I could argue with the 'breaking into someone's house' analogy because that implies the person whose house it is was an innocent party and let's not forget that these are self-confessed cannibals.
At the risk of sounding dramatic, I would say it was more like we broke into a Nazi concentration camp, rescued some prisoners of war who were awaiting execution, told the guards to surrender, they didn't and so we took them down.
Either way, I can see that Flynn and he have a difference of opinion that can never be resolved, I just hope we don't stumble into his animated corpse one day :/
This whole episode is not me being frustrated with you, the game, or any other player I hasten to add.
Flynn spent months alone seeing from a unique vantage point just how screwed the world is. He met Lives and they spent a significant amount of time together and yet within days of finding new people he was killed. That was a big deal for Flynn. So the prospect of seeing people adding to the chaos caused by the Whispering Way, or not being willing to fight for the world they are taking for granted really p*sses him off.
Still, this is all part of building rich characters and an even richer world for them to play in so kudos to you Fiendish and everyone else who is contributing to this great game.
Man... I'm trying to think what Polo would have done here...
PS: I miss Polo :(
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Lol I was just thinking, I hope Lillith shows up soon and backs me up so that I'm not the only one who looks like an insensitive dick.
Flynnvas Merryweather |
I think the difference is Polo was a pragmatist and Flynn is just driven by hate for what's happened
Lachen Anborian |
Polo was a great character, and Flynn isn't that bad. Or so a litle bird told me...
@Lenn: no, I won't come back with Lachen, or another character, not in the immediate future. I will continue to read your stuff, just as I did before. I enjoyed playing that character, I enjoyed the action and drama, even the antagonism between some characters (mainly with Flynn&Lilith), which, IMO, added some realism (even in case of global zombie attack, there will still be some loudmouthed duckhead "anti-heroes" like Lachen. Well, maybe not duckhead, but you get the point.^^).
Some players, unfortunatly, don't click along. I won't say more on the subject.
That's why I took the responsability to step out the game, and I hope you'll better enjoy it now that I'm gone, cause Fiendish is doing a tremendous job as a GM and storyteller.
@Lenn (bis) just read your last (spoilered) post, you naughty girl.;-)
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Sad to see you go Lachen :(
It's obvious that he and Flynn didn't get on but to my mind that just added to the realism and enjoyment of the game. After all we aren't all Paladins!
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Good to see you Eric, welcome to the game!
Just so you know I was fully prepared to shove my Boots of the Cat onto your feet and push you off the cliff. Hope there's no hard feelings!
Lilith Sylvari |
I am back and catching up on all my PBP games. I am more behind here than any other, which speaks well of all of you. And I look forward to catching but worry that I have sorta missed my chance to react to many things as they were happening.
I will say that I completely agree with Flynn's position on the attack on the camp. and that is both in character and out of character. Lilith takes a large step back towards LN with this scene playing out which is not exactly the direction I wanted her to go. And with Hawk rejecting her she will likely retreat inward and become the quiet mage type for a while as she tries not to regret her decisions.
OOC I feel completely justified in our actions. Hell, I would feel justified in executing most of the adults in this camp who allowed such atrocities to go on. You do not cut the limbs off living village members and eat them to punish them for failing to find food that is not out there.
Let me remind you from Lilith's point of view what happened:
1) We killed the champion and evil leader.
2) We told the people that they were now free of that evil and that they needed to lower their weapons and we would talk.
3) The wizard introduced herself as an angry wizard and explained what she was going to do if they did not lower their weapons.
4) She did what she said, casting a spell that while demonstrating both her power and ability to do what she claimed she would, did not kill anyone. With that she even rolled a nat 20 intimidate.
5) She then told them she would burn people that did not lower their weapons.
6) When the group was fired upon she again did what she had said she would do. If she had had a fireball I would have used it.
7) She then explained that if the people continued to fight she would summon a beast to fight back. Finally the people stopped fighting. The could have lowered their weapons at any time and Lilith would not have attacked further.
Flynnvas Merryweather |
Welcome back Lillith!
Yeah I think you and Flynn are on the same page aside from the fact he isn't going to summarily execute anyone.
That said, no need to feel you need to justify yourself, you acted totally in keeping with your character and the situation and now we just have to deal with the aftermath one way or another.
Melo I think also gets it except he is looking for strength in numbers (pack mentality) which is also great RP for him and once we have addressed these villagers I'm hoping he will be able to find the source for this poison.
Lilith Sylvari |
Hard for me to see how others are not reacting as negatively to a group that catches and eats people coming to them looking for help. They also eat the limbs of the weaker members of their own group, before presumably eating the rest of them at some point. I know there were influenced by their evil leader BUT there has to be some accountability here. Everyone saw what was going on and at least went along with it.
I guess eventually this group would have eaten itself out of being a group and the problem would have fixed itself, except for the people who happened to wander by and got murdered.
Lenneth Barlow |
Hey, definitely no hard feelings on my end regarding how Lilith and Flynn have handled things so far. The character conflicts have added depth to the game without being out of control, I feel.
As for Lenn, I think she knows that in the long run they've done the right thing but having Lachen and Hawk leave on top of the brutality needed to break the evil village leadership and then whatever is happening with Aura...it's a lot to process. Just give her some time and she'll come around, I promise.
Lilith Sylvari |
So I was gone again. I helped my 22 year older daughter move this weekend and just got back. (10 hour drive - ug!) So sorry for my being away. She had no internet and is getting her new place (a house0 connected tomorrow. I was just busier than I thought I'd be but am catching up now.
I guess just assume that Lilith is pining about Hawk leaving her for a while. I am actually quite sad about it myself. :(
Lenneth Barlow |
Hey folks, as a heads-up I wanted to let you all know that pending a clean preemployment check (which I don't anticipate being an issue since I don't do drugs and I'm good at hiding bodies) I should be finally rejoining the workforce within the next couple of weeks. As of now I'm not sure what this will mean for my posting rate but I'll be sure to keep you updated as I learn more! :D