The Root of All Evil

Game Master Edward Sobel

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Human Gestalt Archaeologist/Fighter 3 | HP 26/26 | AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | Fort +4 Ref +6 Will +2 | Per +6 | Init +5

oops, sorry about that.......yes, my computer!


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Happy Thanksgiving US Folks.


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current party xp is updated in the xp tracker.

congrats you are all now level 3.


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Woo. Hope to be leveld up by tomorrow!


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Hello out there? anyone else still playing this?

Silver Crusade

M (male) Aasimar (anglekin) paladin 3 /bard (arcane duelist) 3

Haven't had time to level up lately
55-65 hour weeks at work
Soooooooo tired


Male Human (Tien-Min)
Remaining:
1st: 8/8 2nd: 6/7 3rd: 5/5 4th: 3/4 | Dancing Lights: 3/3 | Current buffs: Extended mage armor
Sorceror 8 (HP 35/35 Resist Elec 5| AC 18, T 13, FF 11 | F 5 R 7 W 6 | Init +7 | Percept 13)

Family is visiting. Will probably not have time to level up until late next week/weekend when they've left. That being said, you don't need to wait on my account. I can just be a bit behind temporarily.


Incredibly busy with last week of school and finals. Maybe we should just take a week off?


Human Gestalt Archaeologist/Fighter 3 | HP 26/26 | AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | Fort +4 Ref +6 Will +2 | Per +6 | Init +5

Also busy, hasn't had time to level yet. Tis the season .....


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I was actually referring to the in game activity, I knew you guys wouldn't have leveled yet.

Silver Crusade

M (male) Aasimar (anglekin) paladin 3 /bard (arcane duelist) 3

Oh, same reasoning
Also I'm not feeling the paladian pirate thing
Could I retrain to bloodrager?


Human Gestalt Archaeologist/Fighter 3 | HP 26/26 | AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | Fort +4 Ref +6 Will +2 | Per +6 | Init +5

apologies for the lower energy level....things in RL should slow down after the holidays and allow me to focus on the important things like gaming!

hope to have my level done in a day or so...


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Conner K. wrote:

Oh, same reasoning

Also I'm not feeling the paladian pirate thing
Could I retrain to bloodrager?

If you want you could have conner leave and then have the new character join on the ship. instead of rebuilding.

but this really will not be going all pirate, ships are the primary means of transport, and the Shackles had the best fit for the terrain I wanted for this adventure.

assuming you guys go to Haanex, you will have a crypt to explore and a treasure hunt (all on land)

And a chance to see what nefarious plans Daresh has brewing.

Silver Crusade

M (male) Aasimar (anglekin) paladin 3 /bard (arcane duelist) 3

Oh, so we could do like a legitimacy shipping business (plus ya'know adventuring) in a land dominated by pirates, that could be cool. Maybe later we'll fight pirates and try to bring law to the region hmm
My mind is mush right now, daresh was the one with the gnolls yes?

Ok, cool I don't have to abandon this combo, that's good, it really starts to get to the primary features of the build next level. It would be a shame if I were to abandon the build so close to that, now I'm glad I don't have to.


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Leveled up! Only a week late. Felix got a bunch of toys to play with.

Felix has a loot sheet in his character tab if you guys want to remember what we've got.

And looking over his history Felix has a certain pirate crew to hunt down that took over the ship he used to be on.


Human Gestalt Archaeologist/Fighter 3 | HP 26/26 | AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | Fort +4 Ref +6 Will +2 | Per +6 | Init +5

finally leveled up, sorry for the delay!


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merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone.

I would like to get a roll call of who will be continuing.

I want to start moving this forward on Monday.


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. Happy New Year!

Silver Crusade

M (male) Aasimar (anglekin) paladin 3 /bard (arcane duelist) 3

I'm still here and peak is over
Thank the lord I now actually have time to play


Male Human (Tien-Min)
Remaining:
1st: 8/8 2nd: 6/7 3rd: 5/5 4th: 3/4 | Dancing Lights: 3/3 | Current buffs: Extended mage armor
Sorceror 8 (HP 35/35 Resist Elec 5| AC 18, T 13, FF 11 | F 5 R 7 W 6 | Init +7 | Percept 13)

Still around. Bit distracted with family time right now though.


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ok got three. this part of the adventure is a good place if I have to recruit again.

you guys are finished with the manor and Amelia (well mostly) the next leg is to discover what Daresh's plans are.


Human Gestalt Archaeologist/Fighter 3 | HP 26/26 | AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | Fort +4 Ref +6 Will +2 | Per +6 | Init +5

four!


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Yayy 4


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I'll give Mickey one more day then we move on without him.

also anymore discussion as to what you guys want to do next? if not I will move you forward as necessary.


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Well Felix will be on the lookout for the ship he was on that was captured by pirates. But other than that good to move on. We should find some place to sell our loot and buy some gear by the way. I still have the loot sheet on my profile.


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ok I am moving forward tomorrow.

You will be sailing toward the town of Haanex which is the coastal town identified on the pieces of the map you have obtained.

map piece I am talking about

the other map piece


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Hope all is good DM.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

I'll be ready to start again this weekend
Sorry for holding people up.


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I have had a very busy week... but I will get us moving again...


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OK all, I have set up a Pintrest board for this game. I need everyone's e-mail to add you guys to the board and allow us to share game related images. I will still be linking things here as well but I thought allowing you guys to also be able to add to it might be fun.

the board is private so only those invited can view it which is why I need e-mail address to send the invite.


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OK talked to Mickey, and he has decided to leave the game.. I am sorry he has decided to leave.

we can continue on or would you guys want a new player?

Also right now I am so dang angry.... I lost my Office 2016 back-up install DVD and I also lost the Office back-up thumb drive as well.

Which of course is irrelevant since I lost the Licence number as well.

so I had to re-purchase Office 2016 for the new laptop.

I hate my crappy memory.....

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

I know that pain.
I cannot find my one note stuff and nothing else opens that type of file


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been working long hours ahead of the blizzard we are expecting. I will try to move the story tomorrow evening. and I will probably be snowed in on Saturday and barring loss of power will be available almost all day.


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any thoughts on Mickey leaving?

new player or just move on as is?

right now would be the best time to add a new player.

also Felix: did I give you any information about the slave ship in your back story?

If not I have an interesting idea that I want to discuss with you concerning that.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

We could use a dedicated caster but we don't need anybody, because we have a lot of partial casters and we're all rather solidly built.


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Ohh.. yeah I remembered the basics of my character sheet but not the details. Let me push the plot on a bit.


Human Gestalt Archaeologist/Fighter 3 | HP 26/26 | AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | Fort +4 Ref +6 Will +2 | Per +6 | Init +5
Lord Foul II wrote:
We could use a dedicated caster but we don't need anybody, because we have a lot of partial casters and we're all rather solidly built.

Agree, 'nice to have' but not a 'have to have'.


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Same as everyone else. Nice to have someone new. But not necessary I think.


Male Human (Tien-Min)
Remaining:
1st: 8/8 2nd: 6/7 3rd: 5/5 4th: 3/4 | Dancing Lights: 3/3 | Current buffs: Extended mage armor
Sorceror 8 (HP 35/35 Resist Elec 5| AC 18, T 13, FF 11 | F 5 R 7 W 6 | Init +7 | Percept 13)

Do I not count as a dedicated caster? Although admittedly since I'm crossblooded, I do have a lack of variety of spells, especially right now/at early levels. :/

I think we should just continue as is. 4 people isn't a bad party, and recruitment tends to slow things down.


So sad that semester just started or I would ask to step in as I have not gotten to try gestalt yet. I have been following the thread since recruitment, but I am not sure I would do another game justice while I am trying to get my feet under me on campus.

Curious what 'dedicated caster' means. I assume Tatsuo would qualify as my mental image would be the gestalt of two caster classes, but maybe you have something more specific in mind?

Silver Crusade

M (male) Aasimar (anglekin) paladin 3 /bard (arcane duelist) 3

Completely forgot you were a sorcerer in addition to being a summoner.
I've been distracted
I just meant someone with 9 level casting, we still don't have dedicated divine but between bard spells, inquisitor spells and paladin mercies and spells we don't really need that


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Well AinvarG hello,

first I had no idea that the game had lurkers. so thanks for that.

second lets see what you come up with first and then we will let the group decide.

third.. I am a bit jealous as you are in two Wrath games and I cannot get into a single one (or one that lasts beyond the few opening scenes.)


I don't lurk many games, but once catches my eye, I generally follow it for quite a while. I don't remember why this one caught my eye - might have been the gestalt recruitment, actually.

I have to no credit on getting into those games - I had previous relationships with both DMs (I've been in at least three games with each of them) and I believe I was actually invited into each of them - one as a replacement, one as an original character.

Well, if I was going to try to roll something up, I would just as soon as it be with input from the other players, anyway. I tend to get analysis paralysis when I'm trying to decide between all of the characters I haven't played yet.

If you want me to - and you don't mind some inevitable delays in posting when classes get the better of my - I would be happy to give it some thought. I need to review your build rules first, so I will go do that.


This is off-the-cuff and subject to heavy editing:

I might be doing this in the wrong order, but I did some scanning to see if any races and/or classes caught my eye. For some reason, a kitsune appeals to me - a slender white-furred female that remains in human form almost always because among humans, there often is a certain prejudice against fox-folk, and among kitsune, there are sometimes certain expectations of great things about white-furred individuals. She's just trying to find her way and the pressures of her people's expectations and the negative attitudes she has encountered among humans - well, they have just caused her to run away - she hides from other kitsune via her travels and she hides from humans in plain sight - by wearing human form.

In human form, she is a petite girl with pale eyes somewhere between green and yellow and paler hair, just a shade darker than a white gold. She often wears a robe-like garment - another form of hiding - that disguises her slight figure, making her look stockier and perhaps male as long as she hides her face in the depths of the hood. Many have mistaken her for some sort of religious, perhaps a monk.

She could probably remain hidden indefinitely, but she has an altruistic nature that keeps getting her in trouble because she cannot stand aside. Helping the victim of a mugging angered the mugger that was really trying to scare the individual away from that part of town, giving a little bit of coin to the beggar that the shopkeeper just wants to go away, small kindnesses that someone else takes offense to keep happening.

For the class, I'm torn between two gestalt combinations. I would like to try the arcanist (white mage) archetype (never noticed it until I was scanning today, but the combination of arcane casting and healing appeals to me). The other half of the gestalt is more fluid. Both the oracle and the rogue are natural fits for the kitsune. Oracle might be less necessary as a healer if she's able to heal with her arcane slots - but is it enough healing? The combination of an INT caster and a rogue is always appealing. With racial DEX and CHA bonus, rogue would be a natural choice. I'd prefer to go with an Unchained rogue, if that's an option.

TL:DR; As a first draft, I am offering a white-furred female kitsune arcanist (white mage)/rogue (unchained) or arcanist (white mage)/oracle (mystery TBD)


Female Human Weapon Specialist | Wounds 10/15 | Insanity 10 | Armor 4 | WS 29;BS 52;S 35;T 39;AG 50;INT 31;PER 31;WP 35;FEL 34;Awareness 41

Wow. You've already put a lot of thought into your character. I'd say you should pick whatever you feel like playing the most.


Well, that was time that should have been spent elsewhere, but it got my creative juices flowing, so I let them roll.

I figure, as the potential new guy, that I should be making an effort to plug any holes that the party feels need to be plugged. Healing seems to be a big one, which the white mage can kind of fill, but not like a channeling cleric or oracle. She can do much what a non-channeling oracle can manage, I think, and I will pump up UMD ranks for wand usage.

I'm leaning toward the rogue for skills more than combat. You guys certainly seem to have that angle covered. I might be able to deliver some damage as a sniper and will gear up with that in mind, but if she never grips a sword, that will be just fine.

But I'm always open to advice/criticism/suggestions from those at the table. As I have said at another table recently, some sugar makes those bitter pills a bit easier to swallow, of course.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

Wow, the that's quite a bit of story and RP stuff for "just off the cuff" very nice.
I like the flavor and feel like she'd probably get along with my paladin pretty well.
I'm guessing CG?

As to the mechanics...
I'm not a fan of the white Mage archetype
It burns through arcana points incredibly fast if it tries to actually act as healer
And I've found that 90% of what a rogue can do a vivisectionist can do better so long as you have a decent INT, and vivisectionist would give you healing. But with the unchained and glory archetypes (plus maybe something to give you sneak attacks more often like scout or pet trainer) you can still be quite viable
My suggestion would be either to drop arcanist to go oracle/either rogue or ninja
OR to drop the white Mage archetype and rogue for vivisectionist/arcanist.
Alternatively you could go with some other duel caster combo, but be careful not to mix two classes with different casting stats for primary casters
If you're looking for which mystery to choose, lunar and heavens would both work out flavor fully.

Personally I feel the first (oracle/rogue) is more in line with what you were originally planing

Some archetypes to look into
scout rogue archetype
pet trainer rogue archetype
street magician rogue archetype if you want just a little arcane for flavor
glory rogue archetype


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AinvarG wrote:

I don't lurk many games, but once catches my eye, I generally follow it for quite a while. I don't remember why this one caught my eye - might have been the gestalt recruitment, actually.

I have to no credit on getting into those games - I had previous relationships with both DMs (I've been in at least three games with each of them) and I believe I was actually invited into each of them - one as a replacement, one as an original character.

Well, if I was going to try to roll something up, I would just as soon as it be with input from the other players, anyway. I tend to get analysis paralysis when I'm trying to decide between all of the characters I haven't played yet.

If you want me to - and you don't mind some inevitable delays in posting when classes get the better of my - I would be happy to give it some thought. I need to review your build rules first, so I will go do that.

yeah that is usually how it has been with Wrath games. I got invited to one but the GM vanished before he opened a thread.

anyway. this game is kind of laid back. we go in spurts when it comes to posting.

There is a lot of story that gets revealed bit by bit.


My turn to "wow" - that's a lot of analysis, LF2. The choice of the arcanist was because I have yet to try the class, so there's not a lot of analysis in the choice. I will have to consider your suggestions.

I'm not familiar with vivisectionist at all, so that's of interest just because it's new.... Hmm, reading the archtype, I'm not feeling it. I think I will pass on that one.

Unfortunately, I am currently stuck with HL in demo mode while I wait for Lone Wolf to allow me to renew the license for a new machine, so my trial-and-error is limited for the moment. Hopefully, they will reply before the weekend. YAY! They contacted me before I completed the post!

I think the white mage doesn't give up a lot to have the ability to do some healing. I will have to keep in mind the downside, burning through arcane points. UMD with scrolls and wands will be her primary source of healing, if she's doing the healing. Or, to put it another way, the plan is for her to be more arcanist than white mage.

The Glory Rogue archetype seems to be all-win, no downside. I have seen mention of it, but didn't think to look here for the specifics. Is that archetype available, DM of the Coins? I still like Unchained Rogue. Would I be able to do both of those?

And can anyone tell me how to do gestalt in Hero Lab? I have the community package added for gestalt, but I'm not seeing the gestalt "class" option.


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for Gestalt for Hero Lab start here

also check here

As for your build I would like to stick to Paizo stuff only please

a little more on Hero Lab stuff

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