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Johnnycat93 wrote:
Unchained monks can't take any archetypes for whatever ungodly reason, even ones they would normally qualify for.

Because an Unchained Zen Archer would be ridiculously powerful, far more than a normal Zen Archer. Can you imagine an Unchained Master of Many Styles, or Open Palm monk, or Underfoot Adept? The devs' idea seems to be that unchained monk adds enough raw power to the base monk that allowing some of the stronger archetypes on top of it would throw things out of balance.


Oh, hi.

This time only Level 4? But, those characters would be useable in another game, too.

You forgot the specific campaign rules that will invalidate them for any other use.

I am done with these new characters/aliases creating recruitments, then never getting them underway.

If you are a forum regular, you could use your account. If you messed up some years back, theres no reason to expect harsh feelings, and even if so, no reason that should affect the recruitment.

The only reason to use a new account without naming your other alias would be trolling, as already done several times in the past months. I got fooled once too often and will not get involved in any other of these "hi I'm the new GM and want to run a game"-shenanigans.
Also fun that this recruitment goes live 2 days after the GM Fallen Herald went missing(he "allowed" you to use his format, so I believe you are familiar with him?)

Best of luck to those who choose to submit something on the slim chance this game actually does take off.
And yes, I am bitter about this stuff, and will gladly apologize to GM IFF(if and only if) I am wrong and this game actually starts and runs more then a week.


Probably not as good as your Fimbulvinter's, but I would be more than delighted to increase my lore on the matter.

Glad the background was at least interesting and hope the statics were ok.


MordredofFairy wrote:

Oh, hi.

This time only Level 4? But, those characters would be useable in another game, too.

You forgot the specific campaign rules that will invalidate them for any other use.

I am done with these new characters/aliases creating recruitments, then never getting them underway.

If you are a forum regular, you could use your account. If you messed up some years back, theres no reason to expect harsh feelings, and even if so, no reason that should affect the recruitment.

The only reason to use a new account without naming your other alias would be trolling, as already done several times in the past months. I got fooled once too often and will not get involved in any other of these "hi I'm the new GM and want to run a game"-shenanigans.
Also fun that this recruitment goes live 2 days after the GM Fallen Herald went missing(he "allowed" you to use his format, so I believe you are familiar with him?)

Best of luck to those who choose to submit something on the slim chance this game actually does take off.
And yes, I am bitter about this stuff, and will gladly apologize to GM IFF(if and only if) I am wrong and this game actually starts and runs more then a week.

Uhh,

You do realize the GM posted this morning, roughly 12 hours ago, right?

Or did you not even bother to check, and just felt the overwhelming urge to be rude?

At least now that I've seen this side of you, I can add you to the very tiny list of people I would never want in any game I too am in.

Which, I believe comprises of Johnny Panic, and like you.

Good job.


People tend to get a bit nervous when GMs with little or no history show up, produce a great-sounding campaign idea, and then vanish about the time recruitment should be wrapping up. Such high-powered games are a very, very small minority of all games offered here, and they almost never even get started, much less run for a decent length of time.

Getting burned has happened more than once to some people on this board. ^^; Once bitten, twice shy, y'know?

(Except I keep applying, because if nothing else, I usually end up with some good ideas for my other games. XD)


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I'm cautious as well, but I like exploring norse mythology.


Eh, I'll keep applying anyway. I like the ideas I come up with, I tend to come up with new and interesting concepts.


Except Fimbulvinter hasn't really disappeared. Not really. Sure, there's been a long time in between posts, but apparently he does foreign aid stuff, which I assume means overseas.

And, as I said above, he just posted this morning.

But even still, there's never a call to be rude, especially to people who are basically strangers over the internet.

Also, Mordred posted on here pretty much to just be rude and jerky. Which, I am not OK with.


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heh, looked up the thread, yeah 1,600 posts 3 and a half weeks ago and still getting some activity. looks like a lot of angry people, or perhaps desperate... I can see why someone would be angry.

I'll be honest i've specifically kept myself away from my character so that I wouldn't miss them if the GM disappeared because a few days ago or so I thought that was extremely likely.

I've written my backstory and statted them up and it was all involved then but after I just decided to stop thinking of them except in maybe what else I could buy.


@Monkeygod: I didn't say Fimbulvinter had disappeared - as far as I can tell, he's still active, so there's no problem here. ^^


@Rednal—I'd say campaigns I've joined are about 50/50 for ending in the first month. But that just means it's worth learning how to combine or repurpose concepts; and I personally enjoy character creation enough that it's usually not too bad. 3pp and high-powered games tend to end more quickly, though, as far as I can tell.


I'm not gonna lie, I kinda fall in Thunderbeard's line of thinking. When the games die, sure it's a little disappointing but I enjoy the creative process that goes into making characters for well built campaigns. It at least keeps me going long enough till I find the next long lived campaign.


sure thing, monkeygod.

Fimbulvinter has been posting. And neither have I claimed he had disappeared.

What I did claim is that this could well be another of the series of games with GM's vanishing, GM's having internet problems, GM's having real-life stuff storming them, GM's breaking their limbs, GM's having more internet trouble.

All of whom share certain characteristica, among them being new accounts without a posting history and having a very similar way of wording things, or claiming to have a board history but having some vague reason about why they are not willing to reveal their former identity.

I was not here to be rude, I was here to point out that this recruitment fits that pattern before people get too excited.
(Even if, as said, the character options seem too tame this time round, with no "campaign specials"...what speaks against it is that 2 days after herald goes missing, this opens with "format herald allowed me to use"...when herald had not been answering stuff for a while before then. so fimbulvinter, without intending to play or join or post, just writes him and asks if he can copy his recruitment post...simply does not seem likely-unless, of course, he knows him in real life...)

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it most likely IS a duck. Even if there's no guarantee that it is.

The second reason I was here was to point out that I would refrain from recruitments by people who exactly fit that pattern(new account, refusing to reveal former identity) making a recruitment.

If you would never want me in a game with you, that seems simple and easily done. I have yet to see a game by one of your friends actually get past the first week of gameplay or past recruitment. Maybe everything is true, and they all disappeared for all kinds of real-life reasons, and you forgot to state you quit, and none of the GM's could inform the people themselves and had to tell you in real life so that you could post on their behalf.
But then the time I decided to become more active on the board was ill-chosen because I have seen nothing else except a series of failed attempts.

Which, to be honest, agitates me, because it could just as well be trolling. Even if they had reasons to leave so suddenly, or they all have broken internet regulary, those games will not work. If the GM keeps disappearing without notice for several weeks or months, people WILL leave.

So, yeah, if you feel it necessary, do add me to a list of people you don't want to play with. I'm comfortable with that, considering the only game we WERE in, you dropped out of without even letting anyone know whats up. Incidently, also a game one of your real-life friends was supposed to host who disappeared and has not resurfaced.


Regardless of your feelings. Being that guy is not helpful.

Sides, every high level gestalts whatever so far has gone into being npc's in the actual high level gestalt game I'm running with friends.


Aye Tark. I understand I may have overstepped boundaries, and tried to explain why I felt a necessity in the previous post.
On second note, I hope to be wrong. I honestly wish to be proven wrong. I want to see this game take off and think "damn, I should have tried instead of being bitter".

But I'm calling it. There's too many similarities with past recruitments that failed for me to feel confident about this. I'm calling it and hope to be wrong.
It's not meant rude, and as said, if it does work out I'll gladly apologize formally to the GM for doubting it.
But doubts are all that's left in my mind now.
Blame a half-dozen of other GM's who either trolled us or simply disappeared for valid reasons without any notice(and thats a biggie for me. If a GM posts and explains that some stuff in real life came up and he cannot continue the campaign, thats all understandable and fine. Happens to everybody. If the GM just disappears, and does not even show the courtesy of explaining to the players that he will not return for this and that reason...thats not acceptable. As a player, I show the courtesy of creating a believable character, posting regulary, giving advance notice if I am on holiday or will be unable to post for a few days. So yeah, I feel entitled to some courtesy from GM's too. If they just leave, thats very rude. Even a "Oh, I went in over my head, I don't think I could run a game for this kind of characters." would be better than silent absence. Of course there's things like accidents and what-not, where GM won't have posting on the top of his agenda, but seriously, in that case they should inform people when they are back online, not just ignore things as "settled" because its 1-2 weeks in the past and never show up again.)


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what makes me think this might be different is i noticed an amount of non-campaign talk not seen on the others.


Nice derail. 8/10


/* derail end */

Just the right mixture of alcohol, paranoia and bitterness combined to make me a bit too open. While all I wrote does express my opinion and beliefs, it may not have been my place to post here, regardless of wether these beliefs turn out to be well-founded or completely wrong.

So while I will not apologize for my opinion until proven wrong, I do apologize for the thread highjack and posting out of place. If anybody wants to comment to me on something I wrote here, you will need to do so via PM, as in the interest of all those not interested in the discourse, I will no longer visit this thread so there will be no discussion sparked by this.


Good spot to vent though. A little catharsis every now and then is good for the soul. Sure, it messes with the flow of the thread and can be seen as a bit of a downer. But most here seem veterans, the dm included. And I for one understand the sentiment, though I hope I won't be pushed quite so far myself.

So it's all quite understandable/forgivable. And you have been quite amicable in the aftermath. So no worries there.

ON THREAD: I'm not sure what Mythic Path I'll be taking for Hallrún. It fully depends on party composition. Probably dual paths. But which, no idea. Especially now that the arcane path is said to work for psionics.


Technically, there's an entirely separate path for Psionics... XD


Tempted to make a submission. Thinking about a Half-orc Dragon Skald/Warlord viking type who uses axes (either a battleaxe/boarding axe or a greataxe). He'd be a good sailor and would provide some arcane support/buffing from both classes. I didn't see it in the thread when I read through it, did GM Fimbulvinter mention if the campaign will involve any significant time at sea? I would assume so, given the setting, but I'd like to confirm as I have other ideas that appeal to me as well (Primalist Bloodrager/Warsighted Oracle) but they're less interesting at sea.


You can submit multiple characters. Though, at most 1 will be selected. To prevent it becoming just 1 person and their 6 characters talking to themselves. Fun as that might seem.

Don't recall explicit information regarding seafaring, but it is at least heavily implied, and makes a good background either way.


Is path of war allowed? I don't remember hearing anything about it, and it's definitely a step up beyond psionics, so that's an important GM call


He seems to have said so explicitly in the Class section of the recruitment post, so I assume so. He mentioned that it will be 'reskinned' as divine powers from the gods (probably Njord if I build with the Skald idea). I might have missed some change to that though, so it is obviously up to GM Fimbulvinter.


Oh, right, my bad, missed that—I thought all the 3pp stuff was on an ask-and-you-shall-receive-type system.


Yeah I kind of imagine Ragnvald's maneuvers to be exactly as the Harbinger class mentions, literal curses from dark powers.

Ragnvald is going to be interesting in that slightly dark way. He's definitely channeling that old Norse fatalism.


When is the deadline for this again? I sadly haven't been able to finish up my character yet, but it would be easier to force myself if I was aware of the deadline.


Apparently I forgot to say this anywhere, so I'll put it here as well as in the alias. Thorgrim will be going the Trickster mythic path with possibly a bit of path dabbling into Archmage. His role will be somewhere between classic skill monkey/trap finder and arcane debuffer who tries to stack every possible condition on the enemy at the same time. Somewhat a support class, but also a halfway decent melee combatant.


I'm selecting Guardian for mine, but I may choose Hierophant instead. Blessed Companion does look inviting.


I guess I never placed that for my character either. Looking at the hierophant for mine.


Right now I'm pretty well split. Archmage seems okay but I'm not a full caster by any stretch. So maybe trickster? Champion?

I'll just put down undecided until I see that character actually in-game.


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my character doesn't use full CL for a lot of her spells so archmage will really help her. :D

sphere of power spells specifically get better at certain caster levels so this is way better than the others for me, also none of the mythic paths really work with natural attack builds.


Er... Champion adds a LOT of usefulness for natural attack builds... (Fleet Warrior, for instance)


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thunderbeard wrote:
Er... Champion adds a LOT of usefulness for natural attack builds... (Fleet Warrior, for instance)

I will have pounce next level or so (didn't pick it up because didn't want it too early) I could pounce at level 1 with SoP casting, just that's all my character would be able to do at that point. XD


Bandw2 wrote:
I could pounce at level 1 with SoP casting, just that's all my character would be able to do at that point. XD

Is... that a spell? Paizo products' balance extensively works to make it difficult to get pounce in any form before level 8-10.

But Champion also has abilities like Imprinting Hand, Mythic Weapon Training, and Maneuver Expert that could be useful to a character focusing on natural weapons.


Alteration Sphere + Bestial Reflexes trait, allowing someone to Shapeshift into something with Pounce.


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thunderbeard wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
I could pounce at level 1 with SoP casting, just that's all my character would be able to do at that point. XD

Is... that a spell? Paizo products' balance extensively works to make it difficult to get pounce in any form before level 8-10.

But Champion also has abilities like Imprinting Hand, Mythic Weapon Training, and Maneuver Expert that could be useful to a character focusing on natural weapons.

SoP is balanced around non-gestalt, if i went that route, i'd literally be able to do nothing else

you get 1 trait until CL 5 and all forms have 1 nat attack(alteration sphere doesn't use prefab animals from the bestiary), so i'd have pounce on a single nat attack unless i put a talent on greater transformation, giving me a whole another trait so i could grab claws or something, and then my form would never get better til level 5, when i could maybe add another nat attack or something. And if you have all these talents and full CL you probably don't have full BAB. if I had 3/4 CL i'd be stuck until lvl 7 until i got an extra talent.

like I said, there really isn't a reason to get it that early. also you can't get like a pounce with 4 claw attacks a bite and what not.

as for the abilities you listed, gaining more CL for duration, enduring armor, Resilient Arcana, shapeshifting mastery seems very useful to what I intend to do and those are just first tier abilities. :D


It helps if you take the Shifter class. XD You can pick up a permanent Pounce at Level 10 with it, spending your talents on things to prepare for it.

(Meanwhile, Neve is just manipulating plants and such...)


I remember he said 2 weeks at some point but when exactly IS the end date?


Alright, since this recruitment has run long enough to potentially lose track of some characters, I'll attempt to make a list (some people may be missing, point it out or repost the list with an addition).

Characters in progress:
Hallrún (Escheton) — Half-Elf Aegis/Psion (stats, no story)
Plungo Mu’un (Moon Papa) — Jotun Paragon/Monk (Tetori or Unchained, not sure which, no story or stats)
Gösta Gullbjǫrn (Black Dow) — Human Barbarian/Fighter (stats appear to conflict with classes, no story)
Orum Pinesplitter (Mr. Nomington) — Half-Giant Druid/Bloodrager (stats, no story)
Brynja Østergård (Mimesyne) — Aasimar Paladin/Oracle (stats in progress, story)
Monkeygod — Shaman/Druid (no stats or story)

Path undecided/undeclared:
Destin Brandt (rorek55) — Half-Elf FIghter/Barbarian (stats and story)
Neve (Rednal) — Half-Elf Druid/Incanter (stats and story)
Haraldr Volgruff (DekoTheBarbarian) — Half-Giant Armiger/Fighter (stats and story)
Torfrun (AdamWarnock) — Human Fighter/Incanter (stats and story)
Yurik (qwerty1971) — Half-Elf Slayer/Ranger (stats, short story)
Ragnvald Hrolfson (TarkXT) — Human Harbinger/Occultist (stats with improperly-calculated hp, story posted separately)
Tormod Torson (oyzar) — Aasimar Swashbuckler/Paladin (stats and story)
Gudbrand Torgrimrson (TheWaskally) — Human Mighty Godling/Fighter (stats and story)
Sigvarr Khrulson (Johnnycat93) — Human Unchained Monk/Warder (stats and story)
Fell Nornlost (nate lange) — Aasimar Fighter/Investigator (stats, short story posted separately)
Einar Hakon (Deiros) — Human Fighter/Thug (stats and story)

Archmage:
Asta Ingendotter (Bandw2) — Human Mageknight/Shifter (stats and story)

Guardian:
Aurgelmir (Philo Pharynx) — Jotun Jotun Paragon/Soulknife (stats and story)
Abbo Lyrio (adsapiens) — Half-Orc Brawler/Unchained Rogue (stats and story)
Kyra Stormreave (Warhawk7) — Dwarf Hunter/Fighter (stats and story)

Hierophant:
Bjorn (Vincent Fleming) — Human Druid/Slayer (stats and story)

Trickster:
Thorgrim Ulfsson (LAB Rat) — Half-Orc Rogue/Witch (stats and story)

Marshal:
Einarr Lawspeaker (thunderbeard) — Half-Orc Skald/Cavalier (stats and story in archetype, not sure if my post on story got eaten)


thunderbeard wrote:

Alright, since this recruitment has run long enough to potentially lose track of some characters, I'll attempt to make a list (some people may be missing, point it out or repost the list with an addition).

Characters in progress:
Hallrún (Escheton) — Half-Elf Aegis/Psion (stats, no story)
Plungo Mu’un (Moon Papa) — Jotun Paragon/Monk (Tetori or Unchained, not sure which, no story or stats)
Gösta Gullbjǫrn (Black Dow) — Human Barbarian/Fighter (stats appear to conflict with classes, no story)
Orum Pinesplitter (Mr. Nomington) — Half-Giant Druid/Bloodrager (stats, no story)
Brynja Østergård (Mimesyne) — Aasimar Paladin/Oracle (stats in progress, story)
Monkeygod — Shaman/Druid (no stats or story)

Path undecided/undeclared:
Destin Brandt (rorek55) — Half-Elf FIghter/Barbarian (stats and story)
Neve (Rednal) — Half-Elf Druid/Incanter (stats and story)
Haraldr Volgruff (DekoTheBarbarian) — Half-Giant Armiger/Fighter (stats and story)
Torfrun (AdamWarnock) — Human Fighter/Incanter (stats and story)
Yurik (qwerty1971) — Half-Elf Slayer/Ranger (stats, short story)
Ragnvald Hrolfson (TarkXT) — Human Harbinger/Occultist (stats with improperly-calculated hp, story posted separately)
Tormod Torson (oyzar) — Aasimar Swashbuckler/Paladin (stats and story)
Gudbrand Torgrimrson (TheWaskally) — Human Mighty Godling/Fighter (stats and story)
Sigvarr Khrulson (Johnnycat93) — Human Unchained Monk/Warder (stats and story)
Fell Nornlost (nate lange) — Aasimar...

Fixed it now. Didn't include fcb.


Yeah, I guess I should start copy pasta-ing Hallrúns backstory and such from his Mythweavers to his alias.

He's a full elf btw. The image is just what he usually looks like. Having disguise up at all times and not having discussed the status of elves in social perception with the GM and fellow players. A conversation for a possible later date though.


Ok, this is the alias I (Rikash) will use for my submission. I have most of the mechanics worked out, I just need to finish gear. Hjálmarr is going to be a Warlord 4/Dragon Skald 4 going down the Champion/Marshal dual path. He favors a long axe (reskinned halberd) with which he's a devilish foe. I'll be making good use of various combat maneuvers in addition to all his Warlord maneuvers.

I know that he is proud, having become a well known sailor and warrior despite his birth status, but I don't have many further details. I'm still fleshing out his background.


You left off Haraldr Volgruff, the Half-Jotun Armiger/Fighter(Armor Master). Post #166 or there-abouts.


Deko, you're on the list; try ctl+f on this page.

Hjalmarr, there are already core PF stats for a Longaxe. It's slightly better than a halberd, but also exotic, so you'd need to be a half-elf or dwarf to get auto-proficiency (useful if you're not sure how to decide on a race).


Ah, sorry. It's early in the morning and I accidentally skipped over it. Forgive me?! T_T

Oh, and I declared my path as Guardian, though I'm gonna use the mythic class abilities from the Mythic Hero's Handbook.


Hey there, Sorry, I bowed out of this further up the thread awhile back

Re-purposed the Alias into Plungo, as a submission for a Star Wars Saga game, sorry for the confusion.

Don't mind me on your list of submissions there


Thank you for doing the list, Thunderbeard.

When you revise it, Aurgelmir's link is http://paizo.com/campaigns/TheNorthlandsSaga/recruiting&page=4#191


Neve's profile is here: http://paizo.com/campaigns/TheNorthlandsSaga/recruiting&page=4#165

She'll probably be a Hierophant - divine spellcasting and all - but I might Dual-Path Archmage to pick up some useful stuff. XD


I'm working up a Harbinger (raven lord) / Vizier, a mobile skirmisher with a corvid buddy and strange, primal magics. Work's had me swamped, but I'm hoping to get him done soon. Found some fun synergies to build on.

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